funeralxempire
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14 Dec 2021, 12:27 am
Pepe wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Pepe wrote:
If you embarrass yourself, like Tim Flannery, you wouldn't want to remind people of the fact. 
Biden is keeping quiet but AOC has said the verdict is symptom of systemic racism etc...so she's still up for a fight
What person over 50 takes AOC seriously?
ok boomer
14 Dec 2021, 1:01 am
funeralxempire wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Zimmerman literally auctioned off the murder weapon (not to mention the other incidents he's been in since).
BTW where is Zimmerman? I thought he would have crawled out of the stone he was hiding under to make a few dollars getting interviewed on what he thought of the Rittenhouse trial (his case is the closest I can think of to Kyle's).
He's worse than Rittenhouse by almost ever measure, unless you've started forgetting the details of the earlier case.
Rittenhouse hasn't delighted in rubbing his actions in everyone's face since.
We might not like the legal circumstances that make that sort of scenario occur or that makes his involvement in it legally defensible, but the fact of the matter is that he's been acquitted and gets to have a life after the trial and participate in society.
Valid point, Lat I heard Zimmerman was in court for bashing his girlfriend. Sounds like a real catch
14 Dec 2021, 1:03 am
14 Dec 2021, 1:07 am
Pepe wrote:
Matrix Glitch wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Matrix Glitch wrote:
I doubt the teenage kid Rittenhouse is acting completely on his own. I'm sure he's being told what he should do by much older adults. I'm sure the same went for Sandmann.
They are both teens, There is no way they are independently launching legal battles on their own. They have both financial backers as well as being offered free legal support.
It would be cold day in hell if the same "benefactors" offered this level of support to a black man.
Have you ever seen the ACLU, NAACP and BLM etc offer that level of support to a white man?
Precisely.
Just so you know, the ACLU has defended the KKK.
14 Dec 2021, 1:13 am
Pepe wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Pepe wrote:
If you embarrass yourself, like Tim Flannery, you wouldn't want to remind people of the fact.
Biden is keeping quiet but AOC has said the verdict is symptom of systemic racism etc...so she's still up for a fight
What person over 50 takes AOC seriously?
Those who realize she voices what a lot of young voters are thinking. An opinion doesn't have to be accurate to carry weight in the political discourse, so wise people try to stay attuned to the evolving opinions around them.
14 Dec 2021, 1:24 am
Dox47 wrote:
Pepe wrote:
BTW, I find your comments ironic, since you are perceived as someone who constantly ridicules others.
Right? But what would I know, all I do is "trash talk", lol.
I was replying to uncommondenominator.
14 Dec 2021, 1:29 am
DW_a_mom wrote:
Pepe wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Pepe wrote:
If you embarrass yourself, like Tim Flannery, you wouldn't want to remind people of the fact.
Biden is keeping quiet but AOC has said the verdict is symptom of systemic racism etc...so she's still up for a fight
What person over 50 takes AOC seriously?
Those who realize she voices what a lot of young voters are thinking. An opinion doesn't have to be accurate to carry weight in the political discourse, so wise people try to stay attuned to the evolving opinions around them.
That sound patronising, Shirley.
She is not considered a major intellect on the political scene.
She is young. She will gain in experience.
She will always be remembered for her:
"Morality is more important than the facts."
14 Dec 2021, 1:31 am
DW_a_mom wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Matrix Glitch wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Matrix Glitch wrote:
I doubt the teenage kid Rittenhouse is acting completely on his own. I'm sure he's being told what he should do by much older adults. I'm sure the same went for Sandmann.
They are both teens, There is no way they are independently launching legal battles on their own. They have both financial backers as well as being offered free legal support.
It would be cold day in hell if the same "benefactors" offered this level of support to a black man.
Have you ever seen the ACLU, NAACP and BLM etc offer that level of support to a white man?
Precisely.
Just so you know, the ACLU has defended the KKK.
Apples and oranges.
"Context" *is* important.
14 Dec 2021, 1:32 am
funeralxempire wrote:
Pepe wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Pepe wrote:
If you embarrass yourself, like Tim Flannery, you wouldn't want to remind people of the fact.
Biden is keeping quiet but AOC has said the verdict is symptom of systemic racism etc...so she's still up for a fight
What person over 50 takes AOC seriously?
ok boomer
You aren't that young either, Grasshopper.
14 Dec 2021, 2:01 am
DW_a_mom wrote:
Intentional or not, once he had the visible association with those individuals, it gave his detractors room to associate him with white supremacy. Social media isn't clean and it isn't nice, so wise people are VERY careful who they get photographed with.
He was a 17 year old stupid kid.
I thought we had established this.
You and I are much older people with much more experience.
Why are you ignoring this fact?
DW_a_mom wrote:
All someone needs is a whiff of plausibility to avoid being accused of slander. By his choices, Rittenhouse created that whiff of plausibility.
What nonsense.
Intelligent people don't jump to conclusions.
DW_a_mom wrote:
No one owes him an apology; he naively set himself up.
Yes, as you say, he was a naive stupid kid.
Naive stupid kids do stupid things.
hello?
And yes, he is owed and apology, imo.
This is coming from a wise old skunk.
DW_a_mom wrote:
Will I stand up for the truth and tell people it wasn't what it looked like? Sure. But blame them for going there when the whiff of plausibility exists?
Again with the "whiff".
You do understand you are conversing with a skunk, right?
So, all people need is a "whiff" to jump to conclusions, rather than view something objectively, rationally, and waiting for the facts to come in?
"Interesting."
Shades of Jussie Smollett.
DW_a_mom wrote:
One really can't. Its all another of the many, many reasons this teen was and remains in situations that are way, way over his head. I don't like what I see of how he gets talked about, but I can't get away from the fact that absent his own bad choices, that talk wouldn't be there. As noted before, I'm mad at the adults in his life. It's all a lot to handle for someone his age, but he just keeps stepping in it.
You are an old person.
I am an old person.
We have a difference of opinion.
14 Dec 2021, 4:47 am
Pepe wrote:
DW_a_mom wrote:
Pepe wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Pepe wrote:
If you embarrass yourself, like Tim Flannery, you wouldn't want to remind people of the fact.
Biden is keeping quiet but AOC has said the verdict is symptom of systemic racism etc...so she's still up for a fight
What person over 50 takes AOC seriously?
Those who realize she voices what a lot of young voters are thinking. An opinion doesn't have to be accurate to carry weight in the political discourse, so wise people try to stay attuned to the evolving opinions around them.
That sound patronising, Shirley.
She is not considered a major intellect on the political scene.
She is young. She will gain in experience.
She will always be remembered for her:
"Morality is more important than the facts."
Sorry, I thought I was being cheeky.
My young adult children are the ones who tell me not to discount her, that she really listens to and speaks for young adults. It doesn't really matter how I feel about her. If she is getting that many ears, I feel I have to pay some attention.
14 Dec 2021, 5:02 am
DW_a_mom wrote:
Pepe wrote:
DW_a_mom wrote:
Pepe wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Pepe wrote:
If you embarrass yourself, like Tim Flannery, you wouldn't want to remind people of the fact.
Biden is keeping quiet but AOC has said the verdict is symptom of systemic racism etc...so she's still up for a fight
What person over 50 takes AOC seriously?
Those who realize she voices what a lot of young voters are thinking. An opinion doesn't have to be accurate to carry weight in the political discourse, so wise people try to stay attuned to the evolving opinions around them.
That sound patronising, Shirley.
She is not considered a major intellect on the political scene.
She is young. She will gain in experience.
She will always be remembered for her:
"Morality is more important than the facts."
Sorry, I thought I was being cheeky.
My young adult children are the ones who tell me not to discount her, that she really listens to and speaks for young adults. It doesn't really matter how I feel about her. If she is getting that many ears, I feel I have to pay some attention.
You went off on a tangent to what I was saying.
My points:
- She isn't the greatest intellect in politics.
- She is young and needs more experience to be able to impress people over 50 with greater life experience.
In addition, having a following of naive people doesn't impress me.
Godwin Hitler had many non-thinking supporters and look what happened.
I find reason and objectivity of more interest than emotionalism and subjective narrative following groupthinking.
Do you have a problem with dependent thinkers?
funeralxempire
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14 Dec 2021, 8:36 am
Pepe wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Pepe wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Pepe wrote:
If you embarrass yourself, like Tim Flannery, you wouldn't want to remind people of the fact.
Biden is keeping quiet but AOC has said the verdict is symptom of systemic racism etc...so she's still up for a fight
What person over 50 takes AOC seriously?
ok boomer
You aren't that young either, Grasshopper.
Neither is she.
But really, using 'oh no one over this age takes her seriously' is begging to be dismissed as too old to still be in touch. Since that seems obvious I assumed you were kidding so I was just teasing.
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14 Dec 2021, 10:21 am
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14 Dec 2021, 10:50 am
Pepe wrote:
DW_a_mom wrote:
Pepe wrote:
DW_a_mom wrote:
Pepe wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Pepe wrote:
If you embarrass yourself, like Tim Flannery, you wouldn't want to remind people of the fact.
Biden is keeping quiet but AOC has said the verdict is symptom of systemic racism etc...so she's still up for a fight
What person over 50 takes AOC seriously?
Those who realize she voices what a lot of young voters are thinking. An opinion doesn't have to be accurate to carry weight in the political discourse, so wise people try to stay attuned to the evolving opinions around them.
That sound patronising, Shirley.
She is not considered a major intellect on the political scene.
She is young. She will gain in experience.
She will always be remembered for her:
"Morality is more important than the facts."
Sorry, I thought I was being cheeky.
My young adult children are the ones who tell me not to discount her, that she really listens to and speaks for young adults. It doesn't really matter how I feel about her. If she is getting that many ears, I feel I have to pay some attention.
You went off on a tangent to what I was saying.
My points:
- She isn't the greatest intellect in politics.
- She is young and needs more experience to be able to impress people over 50 with greater life experience.
In addition, having a following of naive people doesn't impress me.
Godwin Hitler had many non-thinking supporters and look what happened.
I find reason and objectivity of more interest than emotionalism and subjective narrative following groupthinking.
Do you have a problem with dependent thinkers?
Off Topic
You stated some very good reasons why she should not be taken seriously. Should be and is can be two different things. She is an effective politician because she knows how to use social media and she is hot. Just because a lot of us ok boomers do not understand or is dismissive of how she is doing it does not negate that she is doing it. When you look at Biden’s build back better program, his use of woke type language who does that resemble more AOC or the Joe Biden who wrote the 1994 crime bill?
For further understanding of why AOC and democratic socialism appeals to young adults read the Entitled Mellenials thread
For further understanding of why AOC and democratic socialism appeals to young adults read the Entitled Mellenials thread
14 Dec 2021, 5:47 pm
ASPartOfMe wrote:
You stated some very good reasons why she should not be taken seriously. Should be and is can be two different things. She is an effective politician because she knows how to use social media and she is hot.
Where have I suggested she doesn't impress young people?
If a spring chicken was a politician, most spring chickens would support her, also.
I am not going to say she is a cha cha cha hottie, because the last time I did, I was misrepresented as a sexist man still living in the 1950s.
But your right, she is dreamy.
ASPartOfMe wrote:
Just because a lot of us ok boomers do not understand or is dismissive of how she is doing it does not negate that she is doing it.
Where did I say I don't understand her?
I well and truly understand what "Morality is more important than the facts" means.
She will never live that down, but she is young and will gain greater political nous, over time.
This is how experience works, as you know.
The more life/political experience one gains, the more life/political experience one gains.
Can't argue with that, though some may try.
ASPartOfMe wrote:
When you look at Biden’s build back better program, his use of woke type language who does that resemble more AOC or the Joe Biden who wrote the 1994 crime bill?
Uncle Joe doesn't have a great reputation for being a political intellectual great either.
He got into the Presidency because he wasn't Trump, remember?
ASPartOfMe wrote:
For further understanding of why AOC and democratic socialism appeals to young adults read the Entitled Mellenials thread
I have better things to do with my time.
Talk to me if she ever becomes President.
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