The Chinese Coronavirus: The Story Changes Again

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14 Mar 2022, 9:21 pm

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The Story Changes Again

A study featured in the New York Times once again reprises the assertion that the COVID-19 pandemic began in a Wuhan market, not a lab. Case closed then, right?
#Wuhan #LabLeak #Covid #Pandemic

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14 Mar 2022, 9:51 pm

Let's go back a year,

More Scientists Call for Lab Leak COVID-19 Origin Investigation
July 2, 2021
Frank Diamond
https://www.infectioncontroltoday.com/v ... estigation

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A group of 30 respected scientists argue that the Chinese government has stonewalled a thorough investigation into the origin of COVID-19. There should be consequences, they suggest.

What began as a theory that dare not speak its name lest one be labeled a conspiracy crank, has become what might be the major news story of the century. And what could possibly eclipse COVID-19 as the major news story? Well, finding a definitive answer to the question: Exactly where did the spikey little ball that upended our world and killed millions of people and disabled millions more (the damage will be tallied for decades) come from?

As Infection Control Today® (ICT®) reported in May, what helped to drag the possibility that COVID-19 was caused by a lab leak in Wuhan, China, into the mainstream media was an open letter in The Lancet by a group of respected scientists who argued that the Chinese Communist Party (CCP), which runs China, prevented a delegation from the World Health Organization (WHO) from fully considering a lab leak as a plausible scenario. (Amnesty International ranks China as one of the more repressive regimes in the world and says that it became even more repressive in 2020 as the COVID-19 pandemic spread.)

Now, another open letter—called the Paris Letter—dated this Wednesday goes even further with a demand for an investigation into a possible lab leak that should be conducted either with or without China’s cooperation. It was written by another group of 30 respected and highly credential scientists, and this time the scientists take direct aim at the CCP.

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In ICT®’s report on The Lancet article back in May, Kevin Kavanagh, MD, a member of ICT®’s Editorial Advisory Board, referred to what he described as a “chilling article” by authors affiliated with China's National Institutes for Food and Drug Control (NIFDC) and WHO Collaborating Center for Standardization and Evaluation of Biologicals.

“This article describes a plethora of single amino acid substitutions in the spike protein from 106 pseudo-virus which resulted in ‘ten mutations such as N234Q, L452R, A475V, and V483A was markedly resistant to some mAbs’ and that ‘the dominant D614G itself and combined with other mutations are more infectious.’”

The D614G variant was the dominant variant in the United States in 2020.

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14 Mar 2022, 9:54 pm

Something else of perhaps relevance,
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/27/heal ... -leak.html

Scientists Don’t Want to Ignore the ‘Lab Leak’ Theory, Despite No New Evidence
Many scientists welcomed President Biden’s call for a more rigorous investigation of a virus lab in Wuhan, China, though they said the so-called lab leak theory was still unlikely.
By Carl Zimmer, James Gorman and Benjamin Mueller
Published May 27, 2021 Updated Oct. 21, 2021

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... Earlier this month, Dr. Garry of Tulane argued that the genetic variations in early cases of Covid-19 in Wuhan could be explained by wild animals being brought to animal markets in the city. “If you suppose that the viruses came in through the wildlife trade, then it’s pretty simple and straightforward,” he said.

Even if SARS-CoV-2 jumped from bats or other animals to humans outside of a lab, as Dr. Garry suspects, it will be hard to find airtight proof for that pathway. When animals die, they take their viruses with them.

While scientists have fairly good evidence for how two coronaviruses — the cause of SARS and MERS — jumped from bats to humans, the origins of the other four coronaviruses that infect humans remain a mystery.

“Sometimes you get lucky, sometimes you don’t,” Dr. Garry said. “It can take decades.”

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14 Mar 2022, 10:23 pm

I posted this down on the coronavirus thread.From Union of Concerned Scientists.
https://thebulletin.org/2022/03/the-ori ... e_03102022

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14 Mar 2022, 11:44 pm

kitesandtrainsandcats wrote:

Let's go back a year,

Did you watch my video?

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15 Mar 2022, 12:55 am

Pepe wrote:

Did you watch my video?

Yes. And what is now yesterday in my time zone was one of those days where information presented in video format is difficult to take in and retain so I decided to add a couple printed references which at least somewhat connected to and supported the topic.

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15 Mar 2022, 1:04 am

Are the PRC ever going to cooperate with any investigation?
Will there be any advantage/benefit for them?
Wouldn't it be easier for them to pretend there's nothing for the rest of the world to see so they don't have to take responsibility for the consequences?
My guess is they will take this to the grave the same way Hoover took JFK's assassination to the grave.

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15 Mar 2022, 7:39 am

kitesandtrainsandcats wrote:

Pepe wrote:

Did you watch my video?

Yes. . .

Did you let it do your thinking for you?

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15 Mar 2022, 7:53 am

China repeats false claim that U.S has biolabs in Ukraine. The false claim was originally made by Russia. the claims by Russia and China appear to be falsely laying the groundwork to justify further violence. Now that Russia has made these false claims, and China has seemingly endorsed this propaganda, we should all be on the lookout for Russia to possibly use chemical or biological weapons in Ukraine, or to create a false flag operation using them. It is a clear pattern.

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• False Claims of U.S. Biowarfare Labs in Ukraine Grip QAnon

• There are no US-run biolabs in Ukraine, contrary to social media posts

• Transcript Pentagon Press Secretary John F. Kirby Holds a Press Briefing

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15 Mar 2022, 8:00 am

Fnord wrote:

kitesandtrainsandcats wrote:

Pepe wrote:

Did you watch my video?

Yes. . .

Did you let it do your thinking for you?

I like his humour.

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15 Mar 2022, 8:08 am

Some things you should know about Russel Brand:

• CONSPIRACIES: Like Joe Rogan, Russel Brand has given a platform to conspiracy theories on his channel, making claims based on unsubstantiated or fringe sources.

• COVID DENIAL: In September 2021, Brand shared information on how to avoid COVID-19 safety measures for people attending his tour.

• NAZI SYPATHIES: Brand was ejected from the GQ Awards show on 3 September 2013 after receiving the "Oracle" award. In his acceptance speech, he mentioned sponsor Hugo Boss' former business making uniforms for the Nazi regime. Brand said, "They [Nazis] did look f***ing fantastic, let's face it" before he goose-stepped across the stage in a Nazi march.

• SWEATSHOP PATRONAGE: In June 2015, the Daily Mail revealed that Brand was selling sweatshirts stated to be British-made, while they were in fact made in Bangladesh by workers earning under US$1 per hour.

• VIOLENCE: On 15 March 2012, an arrest warrant was issued for Brand in New Orleans, U.S., because he had thrown a photographer's mobile phone through a window.

• VIOLENCE: On 16 September 2010, Brand was arrested on suspected battery charges after he attacked a paparazzo who blocked his and then-fiancée Katy Perry's way to catch a flight at Los Angeles International Airport.

Sources: Just about every media outlet from the Daily Mail to Wikipedia.

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15 Mar 2022, 8:12 am

This guy reminds me of that guy who wore that hat with the horns during the January 6th Insurrection.

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15 Mar 2022, 8:15 am

kraftiekortie wrote:

This guy reminds me of that guy who wore that hat with the horns during the January 6th Insurrection. . .

. . . With his own YouTube channel, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), bipolar disorder, bulimia, pornography addiction, and a history of self-harming.

He is not exactly an intellectually stable person.

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15 Mar 2022, 8:19 am

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I still find him funny.
He is a comedian after all.

I also use my personal experience and critical thinking skills to weed out any nonsense.

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15 Mar 2022, 8:21 am

kraftiekortie wrote:

This guy reminds me of that guy who wore that hat with the horns during the January 6th Insurrection.

I found that goose funny also, but didn't he have a mental disorder?

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15 Mar 2022, 8:23 am

Fnord wrote:

kraftiekortie wrote:

This guy reminds me of that guy who wore that hat with the horns during the January 6th Insurrection. . .

Not intellectually stable?
Don't you mean emotionally unstable?

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