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26 Mar 2022, 6:51 am

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Russian general suggests troops may scale back war on Ukraine as it focuses on 'main goal' of liberating Donbas

A top Russian general said “the first stage" of the operation in Ukraine has been completed and Moscow will now focus on "achieving the main goal".
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Russia has suggested it may start to scale back its war on Ukraine as Moscow turns its focus to its “main goal” of liberating Donbas – as officials release new data on the losses to Vladimir Putin’s army.

The revelation was made by Russian Colonel General Sergei Rudskoy, who on Friday claimed, “the main tasks of the first stage of the operation have been completed”.

"The combat potential of the armed forces of Ukraine has been significantly reduced, allowing us, I emphasise again, to focus the main efforts on achieving the main goal - the liberation of Donbas," he said.

"The public and individual experts are wondering what we are doing in the area of ​​the blockaded Ukrainian cities.

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26 Mar 2022, 6:57 am

Never trust what Russian officials say. Even in peacetime.
On military level, such move would be reasonable for them. Which, according to the apparent logic of this war so far, means nothing.


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28 Mar 2022, 1:21 am

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Ukraine considering Russia’s neutrality demand
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Ukraine is prepared to discuss adopting a neutral status as part of a peace deal with Russia, which could potentially include giving up on the country’s aim of joining NATO.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky signalled his willingness to compromise in an interview with independent Russian journalists on Sunday, which was published against the wishes of the Kremlin.


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28 Mar 2022, 2:13 am

The "neutrality status" Zelensky has been considering acceptable (for some time already) is: not join NATO but have other legally bonding security guarantees of similar nature.


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28 Mar 2022, 6:47 am

I feel like Zerenskyy is somewhat skeptical about NATO’s feelings about Ukraine.

This concession (no NATO) wouldn’t be that severe to him (Zerenskyy).

When Zerenskyy says that the West isn’t “doing enough,” he is being rhetorical, rather than expressing his true feelings. This is common in diplomacy. He is seeking to establish a strong bargaining position.



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28 Mar 2022, 6:53 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
I feel like Zelenskyy is somewhat skeptical about NATO’s feelings about Ukraine.
I'd even say somewhat disappointed.
He demands an alternative security deal.

(It's Zelensky. With L. Double y is Russian version, single is Ukrainian, but both have l. From "zelenyy" - "green".)


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28 Mar 2022, 6:57 am

Zelensky from now on!



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28 Mar 2022, 7:08 am

Sorry, no, I digged a bit deeper. Officially the double y is ok.

Anyway, back to the topic - he has his own doubts about NATO and, well, hard to be surprised about it after NATO claiming open door but keeping Ukraine at arm's length.

Anyway, for now, we need to do what we can to help Ukrainians defend their independence, so the possible peace talks result in... all the millions of Ukrainians who fled having a place worth coming back to.


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28 Mar 2022, 7:22 am

Absolutely :)

From all standpoints.

From the standpoint of being humanitarian.....and from the standpoint of geopolitical pragmatism, too.



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28 Mar 2022, 7:35 am

Imagine if the West did something after Russia annexed Crimea? That was a major imperialistic, aggressive move.

Sort of like us annexing some part of Canada for "strategic reasons." Does anybody feel like NATO would have condoned that move by the United States?



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28 Mar 2022, 11:25 am

There were some sanctions after Crimea annexation but they were half-hearted and, it turned out, bypassed by some Western countries.
Us East Europeans got dismissed as paranoid back then...


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28 Mar 2022, 12:50 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
I feel like Zerenskyy is somewhat skeptical about NATO’s feelings about Ukraine.

This concession (no NATO) wouldn’t be that severe to him (Zerenskyy)..



NATO has nothing personal against Ukraine. The EU maybe. But not NATO.

Its that NATO agrees with Russia that Ukraine should be a neutral buffer state between itself and Russia. Or may not "agree", but NATO is willing act like it agrees to keep Russia happy. That was the issue before the war. And is still the issue now.

The EU does have entrance requirements (basically you have to be a democracy to join). But I dont think that NATO has that sorta thing.



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28 Mar 2022, 7:51 pm

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President Volodymyr Zelensky indicated in remarks to Russian journalists on Sunday Ukraine may be open to adopting a neutral stance as part of a peace deal with Russia—foreclosing the possibility of joining NATO—but added that any such agreement would need to be put to a referendum and guaranteed by other countries. “We will not sit at the negotiating table at all if we talk about some kind of demilitarization, some kind of ‘denazification,’” Zelensky said. “These are completely incomprehensible things.”


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