Australia’s Anti-Vaccine Movement Is Collapsing.

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25 Mar 2022, 3:48 pm

Australia's anti-vaccine activists seized on COVID-19 and grew into an energetic and active movement. Now, their cause is falling apart.

The founder of Australia’s biggest anti-vaccine group looks exhausted in a video posted to Reignite Democracy Australia’s remaining social media accounts this week; a weary Monica Smit complains to her followers about the costs of running the group and employing staff as she asks for money.

Launched during the peak of Australia’s 2020 strict COVID-19 restrictions and just after the first vaccine had been approved for use, Reignite Democracy Australia has played a key role in the effort to undermine Australia’s vaccination rollout.

Despite its best efforts of creating viral medical misinformation, storming MPs' offices, and leading protests, it has been unsuccessful.  Australia is one of the most vaccinated nations in the world and is emerging from the pandemic with one of the lowest death tolls.  Even half of those aged five to 11 have received at least one vaccine dose, despite anti-vaccine groups having tried and failed to capitalize on parent's natural squeamishness about young children.

The group's digital reach is shrinking, too.  Once riding high with ballooning follower counts on platforms like Facebook and Telegram, Reignite Democracy Australia has been banned from the former and is seeing much less traction from the latter.

Telegram has become the platform du jour for conspiracy groups because of its practically non-existent approach to content moderation.  Reignite Democracy Australia’s channel is one of Australia’s largest, with 75,000 members.  For the last month, however, its channel has been consistently losing participants.

The anti-vaccine movement tried its hand at electoral politics but has been unsuccessful so far.  Despite a widely held mistrust in institutions, many involved have or are seeking office.  In the state elections since the pandemic, no single-issue, anti-vaccine, anti-mandate candidate has been even close to being elected, nor has there been a surge in support for established parties who flirt with the movement such as Pauline Hanson’s One Nation.  Several groups are jostling for the anti-vaccine vote in the upcoming federal election, but polling is not picking up a significant bump in their support.


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25 Mar 2022, 5:50 pm

Fnord wrote:
Australia's anti-vaccine activists seized on COVID-19 and grew into an energetic and active movement. Now, their cause is falling apart.

The founder of Australia’s biggest anti-vaccine group looks exhausted in a video posted to Reignite Democracy Australia’s remaining social media accounts this week; a weary Monica Smit complains to her followers about the costs of running the group and employing staff as she asks for money.

Launched during the peak of Australia’s 2020 strict COVID-19 restrictions and just after the first vaccine had been approved for use, Reignite Democracy Australia has played a key role in the effort to undermine Australia’s vaccination rollout.

Despite its best efforts of creating viral medical misinformation, storming MPs' offices, and leading protests, it has been unsuccessful.  Australia is one of the most vaccinated nations in the world and is emerging from the pandemic with one of the lowest death tolls.  Even half of those aged five to 11 have received at least one vaccine dose, despite anti-vaccine groups having tried and failed to capitalize on parent's natural squeamishness about young children.

The group's digital reach is shrinking, too.  Once riding high with ballooning follower counts on platforms like Facebook and Telegram, Reignite Democracy Australia has been banned from the former and is seeing much less traction from the latter.

Telegram has become the platform du jour for conspiracy groups because of its practically non-existent approach to content moderation.  Reignite Democracy Australia’s channel is one of Australia’s largest, with 75,000 members.  For the last month, however, its channel has been consistently losing participants.

The anti-vaccine movement tried its hand at electoral politics but has been unsuccessful so far.  Despite a widely held mistrust in institutions, many involved have or are seeking office.  In the state elections since the pandemic, no single-issue, anti-vaccine, anti-mandate candidate has been even close to being elected, nor has there been a surge in support for established parties who flirt with the movement such as Pauline Hanson’s One Nation.  Several groups are jostling for the anti-vaccine vote in the upcoming federal election, but polling is not picking up a significant bump in their support.


Source:  This 'Crikey' Article 


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Australia is one of the most vaccinated nations in the world and is emerging from the pandemic with one of the lowest death tolls.

We did well, yes. 8)



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26 Mar 2022, 7:25 pm

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26 Mar 2022, 9:55 pm

Who can forgot what these creeps were doing during the height of the anti-vaxx protests
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ourne.html

Only problem is now we don't know who they are as they bury themselves underground



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26 Mar 2022, 9:59 pm

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Who can forgot what these creeps were doing during the height of the anti-vaxx protests
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ourne.html

Only problem is now we don't know who they are as they bury themselves underground


Something like that is extremely rare.
I haven't heard anything/k like that in my entire life.

I think it may have something to do with the stress of having to cope with lockdowns, etc.
There is a lot more mental health issues now because of the disease.



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26 Mar 2022, 10:02 pm

Pepe wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Who can forgot what these creeps were doing during the height of the anti-vaxx protests
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ourne.html

Only problem is now we don't know who they are as they bury themselves underground


Something like that is extremely rare.
I haven't heard anything/k like that in my entire life.

I think it may have something to do with the stress of having to cope with lockdowns, etc.
There is a lot more mental health issues now because of the disease.


True, but the movement attracted dangerous extemists. My concern is that the authorities keep a watch on them.



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cyberdad wrote:
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cyberdad wrote:
Who can forgot what these creeps were doing during the height of the anti-vaxx protests
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ourne.html

Only problem is now we don't know who they are as they bury themselves underground


Something like that is extremely rare.
I haven't heard anything/k like that in my entire life.

I think it may have something to do with the stress of having to cope with lockdowns, etc.
There is a lot more mental health issues now because of the disease.


True, but the movement attracted dangerous extemists. My concern is that the authorities keep a watch on them.


As you know, I have no time for extremists, no matter the colour of their "stripes". 8)



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30 Mar 2022, 1:41 pm

Must be because too many of them are dying. :twisted:



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05 Apr 2022, 12:33 am

Crikey is deliberately lying to you here. They are known for it. Totally establishment controlled.
Reignite Democracy Australia are not the "anti-vaxxers". (othering is bad btw)
Reignite Democracy Australia is "controlled opposition". Controlled opposition Their base members are good people who know something is wrong but they don't control the organization.
RDA linked with Clive Palmer, Craig Kelly UAP (also controlled opposition) for a while, then split off. All connected.
They are not the only controlled opposition group or individual in Australia. It's a bit of a spy novel.
Clue 1 is the short jail sentence or other public injustice to establish credibility as not being part of the establishment.
Clue 2 look at their connections including historical and family.
Clue 3 distrust anyone that gets mainstream media exposure, good or bad. Negative stories will attract the opposition supporters. Then they are controlled. Catch on?.
Clue 4 where did they go to school.
These groups go close to the truth but leave out the important things. Lead their followers nowhere. In Russia they waited 5 years for the counter-revolution only to be executed or sent to gulags.
One test is will they talk about certain issues that the media will not mention. Only one organization and a few individuals do.
It should be very disturbing to anyone that such tactics are being used. And not one politician or media is calling it out. Not even the prominent well funded "freedom" parties. It's like they are all in on it.



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06 Apr 2022, 8:55 am

flamingshorts wrote:
Crikey is deliberately lying to you here. They are known for it. Totally establishment controlled.
Reignite Democracy Australia are not the "anti-vaxxers". (othering is bad btw)
Reignite Democracy Australia is "controlled opposition". Controlled opposition Their base members are good people who know something is wrong but they don't control the organization.
RDA linked with Clive Palmer, Craig Kelly UAP (also controlled opposition) for a while, then split off. All connected.
They are not the only controlled opposition group or individual in Australia. It's a bit of a spy novel.
Clue 1 is the short jail sentence or other public injustice to establish credibility as not being part of the establishment.
Clue 2 look at their connections including historical and family.
Clue 3 distrust anyone that gets mainstream media exposure, good or bad. Negative stories will attract the opposition supporters. Then they are controlled. Catch on?.
Clue 4 where did they go to school.
These groups go close to the truth but leave out the important things. Lead their followers nowhere. In Russia they waited 5 years for the counter-revolution only to be executed or sent to gulags.
One test is will they talk about certain issues that the media will not mention. Only one organization and a few individuals do.
It should be very disturbing to anyone that such tactics are being used. And not one politician or media is calling it out. Not even the prominent well funded "freedom" parties. It's like they are all in on it.
I see that Drongo, the mythical Conspiracy Loon, may have visited your house recently.



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07 Apr 2022, 8:25 am

Fnord wrote:
flamingshorts wrote:
Crikey is deliberately lying to you here. They are known for it. Totally establishment controlled.
Reignite Democracy Australia are not the "anti-vaxxers". (othering is bad btw)
Reignite Democracy Australia is "controlled opposition". Controlled opposition Their base members are good people who know something is wrong but they don't control the organization.
RDA linked with Clive Palmer, Craig Kelly UAP (also controlled opposition) for a while, then split off. All connected.
They are not the only controlled opposition group or individual in Australia. It's a bit of a spy novel.
Clue 1 is the short jail sentence or other public injustice to establish credibility as not being part of the establishment.
Clue 2 look at their connections including historical and family.
Clue 3 distrust anyone that gets mainstream media exposure, good or bad. Negative stories will attract the opposition supporters. Then they are controlled. Catch on?.
Clue 4 where did they go to school.
These groups go close to the truth but leave out the important things. Lead their followers nowhere. In Russia they waited 5 years for the counter-revolution only to be executed or sent to gulags.
One test is will they talk about certain issues that the media will not mention. Only one organization and a few individuals do.
It should be very disturbing to anyone that such tactics are being used. And not one politician or media is calling it out. Not even the prominent well funded "freedom" parties. It's like they are all in on it.
I see that Drongo, the mythical Conspiracy Loon, may have visited your house recently.


I can back up everything I've said with pictures and vids but there are defamation laws. Why is the first UAP candidate Monica's fiance? You know Monica from RDA, with the short jail sentence. There were "Free Monica" cor-flutes ready in no time. It all costs money. Why would the most active Liberal Party apparatchik ever be hanging out with RDA youth? Why would same apparatchik be besties with the founder of a prominent new "freedom party". One that gets main stream media attention, even a 60 minutes episode. Seems some people are "connected".

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07 Apr 2022, 8:32 am

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Australia's anti-vaccine activists seized on COVID-19 and grew into an energetic and active movement. Now, their cause is falling apart.

The founder of Australia’s biggest anti-vaccine group looks exhausted in a video posted to Reignite Democracy Australia’s remaining social media accounts this week; a weary Monica Smit complains to her followers about the costs of running the group and employing staff as she asks for money.

Launched during the peak of Australia’s 2020 strict COVID-19 restrictions and just after the first vaccine had been approved for use, Reignite Democracy Australia has played a key role in the effort to undermine Australia’s vaccination rollout.

Despite its best efforts of creating viral medical misinformation, storming MPs' offices, and leading protests, it has been unsuccessful.  Australia is one of the most vaccinated nations in the world and is emerging from the pandemic with one of the lowest death tolls.  Even half of those aged five to 11 have received at least one vaccine dose, despite anti-vaccine groups having tried and failed to capitalize on parent's natural squeamishness about young children.

The group's digital reach is shrinking, too.  Once riding high with ballooning follower counts on platforms like Facebook and Telegram, Reignite Democracy Australia has been banned from the former and is seeing much less traction from the latter.

Telegram has become the platform du jour for conspiracy groups because of its practically non-existent approach to content moderation.  Reignite Democracy Australia’s channel is one of Australia’s largest, with 75,000 members.  For the last month, however, its channel has been consistently losing participants.

The anti-vaccine movement tried its hand at electoral politics but has been unsuccessful so far.  Despite a widely held mistrust in institutions, many involved have or are seeking office.  In the state elections since the pandemic, no single-issue, anti-vaccine, anti-mandate candidate has been even close to being elected, nor has there been a surge in support for established parties who flirt with the movement such as Pauline Hanson’s One Nation.  Several groups are jostling for the anti-vaccine vote in the upcoming federal election, but polling is not picking up a significant bump in their support.


Source:
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The Russian trolls that used to be fueling them are now busy elsewhere.


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07 Apr 2022, 8:35 am

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I can back up everything I've said with pictures and vids but there are defamation laws. . .
Defamation: The act of communicating false statements about a person that injure the reputation of that person.

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You seem to have confessed that those "pictures and vids" are false statements.

False statements are not evidence.



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07 Apr 2022, 8:37 am

magz wrote:
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Australia's anti-vaccine activists seized on COVID-19 and grew into an energetic and active movement. Now, their cause is falling apart. . . .

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 This 'Crikey' Article 
The Russian trolls that used to be fueling them are now busy elsewhere.
Raping and murdering civilians, no doubt.



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07 Apr 2022, 8:48 am

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07 Apr 2022, 8:53 am

Fnord wrote:
magz wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Australia's anti-vaccine activists seized on COVID-19 and grew into an energetic and active movement. Now, their cause is falling apart. . . .

Source:
 This 'Crikey' Article 
The Russian trolls that used to be fueling them are now busy elsewhere.
Raping and murdering civilians, no doubt.
Probably only advocating for the above.
Anyway, there's some good news about it: Kremlin disinformation machine has finite resources, as they need to focus on their own population now, their influence elsewhere drops.


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