Johnny Depp Vs Amber Heard verdict discussion

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A thing with Depp is he's pushing 60, and there's only so far the leading man hart throb thing can be taken. Him, Brad Pitt and Tom Cruise are becoming the older generation of actors who've had their heyday.

I'm going to be honest, the strength and persistence of the vitriol against Amber Heard is something that disturbs me greatly.

NONE OF US KNOW THE TRUE STORY.

My first post on the trial indicated I saw reason to doubt her, but feeling uncomfortable with her actions and motives is not the same as knowing.

Having a jury return a verdict is not the same as knowing.

People are doing a whole lot of assuming here and making judgements that WILL harm domestic abuse victims. How any of you, or even the jury, feel about the facts doesn't matter when it comes to the lesson a domestic abuse victim will take home. All they will see is someone who tried to tell her story and was shredded to pieces for doing so.

It isn't as if there is no documentation of Depp acting in an abusive manner towards her. There is. Texts, things he's confessed to, etc. While it is entirely possible that his actions were a response to her actions, the fact remains that he also acted in an abusive / toxic manner in that relationship. THAT is what victims are seeing.

Lawyer friends of mine are surprised by the verdict. After all, she never mentioned Depp by name in the ad, or provided identifying characteristics. She described herself. It was a "me" statement; how she experienced the reactions of SOCIETY to her claims, including ones she made at a very young age. It says nothing about what happened in the marriage. It was all about the reactions of people and institutions around her. While she should have known that people would see her ex in the timeline, the jury result says, to me, more about how the power of Depp's personality than the reality of what happened in that marriage.

I don't mind that people agree with the verdict. I don't mind that people think Amber is shady. I mind the certainty and level of vitriol with which people speak.

I've worked with domestic abuse victims. It is very, very VERY hard for them to get anyone to believe them.

I am also going to repeat, cussing and slamming things and throwing things IS a form of abuse that can be every bit as psychologically damaging as getting hit. That is extremely important to understand.

There's evidence though that she also was abusive.

. . . Having a jury return a verdict is not the same as knowing. . .

I am aware.

But we don't know how much was reactive when it comes to her, either.

What we do know is that marriage was exceedingly toxic and should be happy we have such a thing as divorce in this country.

Been planning to rewatch Secret Window, I think it's quite fitting.

I am also going to repeat, cussing and slamming things and throwing things IS a form of abuse that can be every bit as psychologically damaging as getting hit. That is extremely important to understand.

This settles it folks, I learned my son is an abuser, my dad is an abuser, I am an abuser.

Growing up and seeing my dad throw things sometimes or slam cupboards, I never ever feared him nor felt unsafe. It was always obvious he was pissed about something else.

And my son does get into trouble when he decides to hit things or pound walls so I tell him to go pound a pillow or his plushies but he dopes not have the right to break things when he is mad.

In the aftermath of the verdict, I am wondering if their age gap contributed to her being abusive?

In Australia I have seen examples of younger women being aggressive toward their older wealthier partners. I imagine Rupert Murdoch's former (and much younger) wife Wendi must have been a handful to cope with given how easily she used her fists.

Thread created to discuss the verdict returned, as discussion regarding the actual trial is no longer welcome on the site.

This is important only if and when such violence and suffering has not been staged and has actually occurred.

The civil suit was brought on not because Ms. Heard spoke out, but because she slandered Mr. Depp while doing so.

(For some people, it is not enough to win a divorce case; they seem to have the deep-seated need to slander and ruin the reputations, careers, and lives of the people they have divorced.)

She still has her Free Speech rights, as they are inviolable.  Most of what has been brought home to her is that she should be truthful when speaking about others, that she should at least have irrefutable evidence that what she says about someone else is true, or both.

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There are already articles out there saying they believe Amber used Johnny, she used his kindness and generous and used him for her acting career boost. Some think she only married him for money.

But honestly I don't know why she married him, he is way too old for her and I lost interest in him when he started to age because I don't find aging men attractive but everyone eventually ages. I used to watch his new films and then I stopped following him when he got too old. .

Do you intend to lock this thread, sometime down the line?