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Kraichgauer
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09 Jun 2022, 9:43 pm

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Did anyone ever think that this might be a good method to create a divisive atmosphere in the country to cause the effect of reinforcing a right against left political divide . It is. Obvious that the government is not addressing the real issues and using the media to push public hot buttons. Multiple Gun killings by handguns have been going on since even before the Wild West six shooters .. There is no end to where gun or some other weapons/ tools to kill multiples of persons . Something feels off. And am suspicious since the dawn of the net people may be thinking things through, especially about political methods . 8O


While there have been far more killings by handguns than by assault rifles, the latter causes far more horrific, unsurvivable damage to a human body that you aren't going to get from a handgun.
Perhaps a note of interest - most towns in the old west eventually enacted strict gun control because of the rising homicide rates, and would hire hard asses like Wyatt Earp and Wild Bill Hickock to enforce it.


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09 Jun 2022, 10:18 pm

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Persephone29 wrote:
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Gun control legislation is not going to pass Congress. Even if it did, guns would be obtained illegally or something else would be used. We would go from shootings to stabbings and bombings.

If we want to address the underlying problems, we need to greatly increase the availability of mental healthcare. Schools need to be better equipped to prevent bullying. Put mental health professionals in every school. Parents might need to be straight-up forced into family counselling to address the issues at home that also motivate these killers. School counselors can only do so much when emotionally neglectful parents refuse to do anything to address their children's mental health needs.

But neither party is going to vote for things because that costs Taxpayer Money (horrors! Horror upon horrors!) And both parties would rather do nothing than goes against the capitalist propaganda they have spoon-fed to their constituents for the last 150+ years. Parents would rather risk their children dying than spend Taxpayer Money on real solutions to the causes of this problem.

Why spend it on that when you can, I don't know, spend the money on an addition to your home? Or growing a business? Or a vacation or car? Or whatever these self-important capitalist morons think is a better use of their money bc Taxation is Eeeeeeevil. The government being used by the public as a means of addressing these issues is heretical to the Standard American Capitalist Taxpayer.

(Disclaimer that I say all this as a pro-gun anarcho-socialist. The government is awful but we can still force it to do things that benefit the public.)

Either find a solution and be willing to actually pay taxes for that solution or risk losing your guns to a narrow-sighted Democrat congressional majority. Your choice.



I pay my taxes, but once they are in the hands of politicians I have no say over how the money is spent. The GOP is simply the only substantial party available with which to fight the Democrats. I'm not for sending millions to Ukraine, I'm for using that money to pay armed guards to protect our kids. The Democrats are in office, Biden is okaying all the money being spent. I don't see him writing up any EO's for emergency protection for the kids. It's well within his power to declare a state of emergency.


The Democrats are the ones providing a social safety net, who don't blame poor people for being poor, for supporting civil rights for all - are anti-racist - are anti-homophobe, who are pro-science - don't deny the validity of disease for political gain, and promote common sense gun control that actually would protect our children. That's why I support the Dems.



My grandchild, who lives with me, is gay. Oh, and she's biracial. Science has you boostering until the end of time... (which helps Big Pharma). Feeding the poor is great, now how about protecting the kids in school. It would be interesting to see how much poor Democratic voters really care about all of the stuff you listed if they weren't getting assistance.


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09 Jun 2022, 10:35 pm

Persephone29 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Persephone29 wrote:
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Gun control legislation is not going to pass Congress. Even if it did, guns would be obtained illegally or something else would be used. We would go from shootings to stabbings and bombings.

If we want to address the underlying problems, we need to greatly increase the availability of mental healthcare. Schools need to be better equipped to prevent bullying. Put mental health professionals in every school. Parents might need to be straight-up forced into family counselling to address the issues at home that also motivate these killers. School counselors can only do so much when emotionally neglectful parents refuse to do anything to address their children's mental health needs.

But neither party is going to vote for things because that costs Taxpayer Money (horrors! Horror upon horrors!) And both parties would rather do nothing than goes against the capitalist propaganda they have spoon-fed to their constituents for the last 150+ years. Parents would rather risk their children dying than spend Taxpayer Money on real solutions to the causes of this problem.

Why spend it on that when you can, I don't know, spend the money on an addition to your home? Or growing a business? Or a vacation or car? Or whatever these self-important capitalist morons think is a better use of their money bc Taxation is Eeeeeeevil. The government being used by the public as a means of addressing these issues is heretical to the Standard American Capitalist Taxpayer.

(Disclaimer that I say all this as a pro-gun anarcho-socialist. The government is awful but we can still force it to do things that benefit the public.)

Either find a solution and be willing to actually pay taxes for that solution or risk losing your guns to a narrow-sighted Democrat congressional majority. Your choice.



I pay my taxes, but once they are in the hands of politicians I have no say over how the money is spent. The GOP is simply the only substantial party available with which to fight the Democrats. I'm not for sending millions to Ukraine, I'm for using that money to pay armed guards to protect our kids. The Democrats are in office, Biden is okaying all the money being spent. I don't see him writing up any EO's for emergency protection for the kids. It's well within his power to declare a state of emergency.


The Democrats are the ones providing a social safety net, who don't blame poor people for being poor, for supporting civil rights for all - are anti-racist - are anti-homophobe, who are pro-science - don't deny the validity of disease for political gain, and promote common sense gun control that actually would protect our children. That's why I support the Dems.



My grandchild, who lives with me, is gay. Oh, and she's biracial. Science has you boostering until the end of time... (which helps Big Pharma). Feeding the poor is great, now how about protecting the kids in school. It would be interesting to see how much poor Democratic voters really care about all of the stuff you listed if they weren't getting assistance.


Why wouldn't any poor Dems? You're assuming the that right wing talking point that poor people support liberalism only because of the social safety net is true. Why can't they just prefer liberal ideals?
Rejecting science has never been beneficial to anyone. And big pharma? Okay, if you prefer nationalized medicine for everyone, cutting out big pharma, then I'm with you. But I'm certainly not going to throw the baby out with the bathwater, and reject medical science just because pharmaceuticals is run by big business - - a thing fully supported by the political right.
Every Democrat is in favor of protecting children. Hence banning automatic rifles.
I think it's highly commendable you accept your biracial gay granddaughter. There are many conservatives who would tell you you shouldn't. I have to wonder how such persons are able to live without hearts.


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10 Jun 2022, 2:49 am

'tis obvious to me at least, that the major controlling [de facto] party in this country places guns/corporate profits over the lives of an increasing number of its citizens.



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10 Jun 2022, 2:56 am

auntblabby wrote:
'tis obvious to me at least, that the major controlling [de facto] party in this country places guns/corporate profits over the lives of an increasing number of its citizens.


- increase guns for white people
- maximise corporate profits
- dig up more ground
- burn more coal
- increase pollution
- increase global temperatures
- reduce forests
- reduce species diversity
- reduce civil liberties for minorities
- stop immigration from s**thole countries
- deport Mexicans
- build a Kaiju wall around the US
'



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10 Jun 2022, 3:50 am

cyberdad wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
'tis obvious to me at least, that the major controlling [de facto] party in this country places guns/corporate profits over the lives of an increasing number of its citizens.


- increase guns for white people
- maximise corporate profits
- dig up more ground
- burn more coal
- increase pollution
- increase global temperatures
- reduce forests
- reduce species diversity
- reduce civil liberties for minorities
- stop immigration from s**thole countries
- deport Mexicans
- build a Kaiju wall around the US
'

also pushing god to hurry up and rapture them all up to heaven and then lay waste to his earth and all us heathens.



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10 Jun 2022, 3:55 am

auntblabby wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
'tis obvious to me at least, that the major controlling [de facto] party in this country places guns/corporate profits over the lives of an increasing number of its citizens.


- increase guns for white people
- maximise corporate profits
- dig up more ground
- burn more coal
- increase pollution
- increase global temperatures
- reduce forests
- reduce species diversity
- reduce civil liberties for minorities
- stop immigration from s**thole countries
- deport Mexicans
- build a Kaiju wall around the US
'

also pushing god to hurry up and rapture them all up to heaven and then lay waste to his earth and all us heathens.


To quote Baldwin -God gave Noah the rainbow sign, No more water, the fire nextime!"