30 Aug 2022, 12:10 pm
30 Aug 2022, 9:10 pm
Matrix Glitch wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Matrix Glitch wrote:
As for ice, it comes and goes.
What does that spot look like right now? Go on Google Maps or Earth and take a look at its current condition.
Edit: From the article, "About 20 percent of seasonal snow accumulation in the region melted in this one event on Eagle Island".
Oh noes seasonal snow accumulation is melting!
What does that spot look like right now? Go on Google Maps or Earth and take a look at its current condition.
Edit: From the article, "About 20 percent of seasonal snow accumulation in the region melted in this one event on Eagle Island".
Oh noes seasonal snow accumulation is melting!
The photos are from NASA. I would expect they know what they are talking about. The data is fairly indisputable
https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/sea-level/
And yet it's heavily disputed.
Not by scientists
30 Aug 2022, 9:12 pm
30 Aug 2022, 10:30 pm
cyberdad wrote:
Matrix Glitch wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Matrix Glitch wrote:
As for ice, it comes and goes.
What does that spot look like right now? Go on Google Maps or Earth and take a look at its current condition.
Edit: From the article, "About 20 percent of seasonal snow accumulation in the region melted in this one event on Eagle Island".
Oh noes seasonal snow accumulation is melting!
What does that spot look like right now? Go on Google Maps or Earth and take a look at its current condition.
Edit: From the article, "About 20 percent of seasonal snow accumulation in the region melted in this one event on Eagle Island".
Oh noes seasonal snow accumulation is melting!
The photos are from NASA. I would expect they know what they are talking about. The data is fairly indisputable
https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/sea-level/
And yet it's heavily disputed.
Not by scientists
Wanna bet?
31 Aug 2022, 2:39 am
Matrix Glitch wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Matrix Glitch wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Matrix Glitch wrote:
As for ice, it comes and goes.
What does that spot look like right now? Go on Google Maps or Earth and take a look at its current condition.
Edit: From the article, "About 20 percent of seasonal snow accumulation in the region melted in this one event on Eagle Island".
Oh noes seasonal snow accumulation is melting!
What does that spot look like right now? Go on Google Maps or Earth and take a look at its current condition.
Edit: From the article, "About 20 percent of seasonal snow accumulation in the region melted in this one event on Eagle Island".
Oh noes seasonal snow accumulation is melting!
The photos are from NASA. I would expect they know what they are talking about. The data is fairly indisputable
https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/sea-level/
And yet it's heavily disputed.
Not by scientists
Wanna bet?
Scientists with tin foil hats?
31 Aug 2022, 3:28 am
31 Aug 2022, 4:23 am
31 Aug 2022, 4:51 am
Diverse4Me
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06 Sep 2022, 9:30 am
06 Sep 2022, 9:57 am
cyberdad wrote:
Matrix Glitch wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Scientists with tin foil hats?
No, the tinfoil hats are the ones saying the word is coming to an end soon.
Oh if you mean Alizee and her movement, well I think the point is that there is an expiry date based on current trends. Whether it's 941 more days or 94.1 years, humans are unlikely to make it past 2100 AD based on
a) global temperatures
b) rising sea levels
https://www.livescience.com/65633-clima ... -2050.html
Quote:
Published by the Breakthrough National Centre for Climate Restoration in Melbourne (an independent think tank focused on climate policy) and authored by a climate researcher and a former fossil fuel executive, the paper's central thesis is that climate scientists are too restrained in their predictions of how climate change will affect the planet in the near future.
In other words, the author goes well beyond the actual scientific consensus.Yes, climate change is real. It was disputable 15 years ago but by now most of these disputes are well settled.
No, the whole world won't drown. If all the ice caps melted, the sea would rise by less than 100 meters - problematic enough but fundamentally limited.
No, Earth won't become inhabitable. Through all the Mesosoic, Paleocene and Eocene it was warmer than now and life on Earth fluorished. It's useful to study these periods to have ideas of what to expect.
Yes, particular species and ecosystems are at very high risk and it's a worry because some of them can be keystone to larger systems.
Yes, there will be problems, some very serious. Pakistan is already flooded because of changes in the monsoon. Over 1300 casualties and counting, not to mention material losses.
Similar things in some other densely populated areas expected
Yes, limiting the impact is reasonable to make these problems possibly smaller.
No, there won't be end of the world nor humanity - both are way too flexible for this.
Thank you.
06 Sep 2022, 10:36 am
06 Sep 2022, 4:59 pm
07 Sep 2022, 1:57 am
cyberdad wrote:
magz wrote:
No, Earth won't become inhabitable. Through all the Mesosoic, Paleocene and Eocene it was warmer than now and life on Earth fluorished. It's useful to study these periods to have ideas of what to expect..
Probably not. But it doesn't take much to make civilisation to collapse. According to geneticists, Homo Sapiens has has several bottlenecks where the population crashed to several humans.That's why it's important to study what to expect, how to mitigate what is possible to mitigate and how to prepare and adapt to what can't be helped.
Knowledge is power (France is bacon
) and we have to actually use this power.Things I believe should be done in Europe:
1. Atomic energy to replace coal and natural gas - I know it's not "trendy" but that's a reliable, CO2-free source powerful enough for the needs of industries;
2. Rewildening rivers - wild rivers don't flash flood, they cause far less damage during catastrophic floods;
3. Generally rewild areas where we can afford it, temperate forests are great ecosystems for CO2 binding;
4. Protect natural water-retaining ecosystems (raised bogs!);
5. Get our sh!t together about consistent and realistic immigration policy - migration is inevitable, we have to adapt to this reality, not pretend it doesn't exist.
07 Sep 2022, 2:06 am
cyberdad wrote:
The premise is that we don't start reversing the emissions within 3 years it's probably too late to save the earth from catastrophic climate collapse.
Try reversing your own emissions, see how that works out.
07 Sep 2022, 2:18 am
r00tb33r wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
The premise is that we don't start reversing the emissions within 3 years it's probably too late to save the earth from catastrophic climate collapse.
Try reversing your own emissions, see how that works out.
He probably meant "reducing" our emissions.
THOUGH... there are schemes to suck carbon out of the air. So he might have actually meant 'reversing' our emissions.
07 Sep 2022, 2:40 am
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