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07 Jan 2022, 8:28 pm

Ahmaud Arbrey's killers received life sentences. Travis and Gregory McMichael received life without parole, William "Roddie" Byran received 20 to life.

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07 Jan 2022, 8:48 pm

Feels excessive.


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07 Jan 2022, 8:59 pm

At least it serves as a good lesson for any future wanabee Rittenhouses.



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07 Jan 2022, 9:38 pm

The dad and his son showed little remorse when they were sentenced,
so IMO, they deserve to rot behind bars for the rest of their days! :evil:


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07 Jan 2022, 9:55 pm

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The dad and his son showed little remorse when they were sentenced,


No surprises there. Here's their "vanity" number plate on their vehicle

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I bet they didn't show the least remorse when they killed Arbery either.



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07 Jan 2022, 10:00 pm

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The dad and his son showed little remorse when they were sentenced,


I bet they didn't show the least remorse when they killed Arbery either.


Not at all. :evil:


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08 Jan 2022, 10:30 pm

So apparently I was mistaken as Byran actually got 30 to life.



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08 Jan 2022, 10:52 pm

Dox47 wrote:
Feels excessive.


Why?


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09 Jan 2022, 1:50 am

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Why?


Two of them are old men already, one is middle aged, I don't believe any of them had prior records, so I'm not reading these guys as threats to society, more like knuckleheads who did something stupid that got someone killed, and I don't think that justifies making them die in prison. I don't believe in using the justice system for revenge, and this feels more like revenge than justice.


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09 Jan 2022, 2:07 am

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Why?


Two of them are old men already, one is middle aged, I don't believe any of them had prior records, so I'm not reading these guys as threats to society, more like knuckleheads who did something stupid that got someone killed, and I don't think that justifies making them die in prison. I don't believe in using the justice system for revenge, and this feels more like revenge than justice.


Okay, they're elderly, sure, they've never been in trouble with the law. But a man lost his life, and they took it, chasing him down like an animal. Let the punishment fit the crime.


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09 Jan 2022, 2:23 am

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Okay, they're elderly, sure, they've never been in trouble with the law. But a man lost his life, and they took it, chasing him down like an animal. Let the punishment fit the crime.


I don't think this punishment fits this crime, I don't believe in felony murder law, which was used here to charge the people who didn't pull the trigger with murder, and I don't think this was first degree, as it didn't look premeditated. 20 years would have been more than sufficient.


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09 Jan 2022, 2:33 am

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Okay, they're elderly, sure, they've never been in trouble with the law. But a man lost his life, and they took it, chasing him down like an animal. Let the punishment fit the crime.


I don't think this punishment fits this crime, I don't believe in felony murder law, which was used here to charge the people who didn't pull the trigger with murder, and I don't think this was first degree, as it didn't look premeditated. 20 years would have been more than sufficient.


Looked like a lynch mob to me, which is pretty depraved.


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09 Jan 2022, 4:44 am

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Looked like a lynch mob to me, which is pretty depraved.


Nah, this was a citizen's arrest gone awry, which don't get me wrong, was a stupid idea that racism probably played a part in, but to call it a lynching is hyperbole. What's the rationale for the LWOPs other than vengeance? Why do these guys deserve more than someone who kills a clerk during a stickup?


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09 Jan 2022, 4:49 am

Dox47 wrote:
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Looked like a lynch mob to me, which is pretty depraved.


Nah, this was a citizen's arrest gone awry, which don't get me wrong, was a stupid idea that racism probably played a part in, but to call it a lynching is hyperbole. What's the rationale for the LWOPs other than vengeance? Why do these guys deserve more than someone who kills a clerk during a stickup?


Maybe not a lynching but I'm fairly sure they would not have responded if Arbery was a pretty blonde jogging around the neighborhood



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09 Jan 2022, 5:01 am

Dox47 wrote:
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Looked like a lynch mob to me, which is pretty depraved.


Nah, this was a citizen's arrest gone awry, which don't get me wrong, was a stupid idea that racism probably played a part in, but to call it a lynching is hyperbole. What's the rationale for the LWOPs other than vengeance? Why do these guys deserve more than someone who kills a clerk during a stickup?


Who says I'm sympathetic to a robber who shoots a clerk in a holdup?


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09 Jan 2022, 5:07 am

Probably an excessive sentences for the guy filming at least.