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08 Sep 2022, 6:03 am

When we say "he" it means "that creature with a penis". When we say "she" it means "that creature with a vagina". When we say "it" it means "genderless" (such as an object or an unborn baby that you don't know the sex of). But "it" will be too offensive for these NBs. "They" means "more than one" (even if you're talking about objects).

If a person looks neither one gender not the other, or are born with both male and female genitals, usually I still choose which gender they look the most over the other, or sometimes I go "he or she".

It's the English language.


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08 Sep 2022, 6:06 am

Ron De Santis anti=woke laws have caused a teacher to resign

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08 Sep 2022, 6:06 am

Joe90 wrote:
When we say "he" it means "that creature with a penis". When we say "she" it means "that creature with a vagina". When we say "it" it means "genderless" (such as an object or an unborn baby that you don't know the sex of). But "it" will be too offensive for these NBs. "They" means "more than one" (even if you're talking about objects).

If a person looks neither one gender not the other, or are born with both male and female genitals, usually I still choose which gender they look the most over the other, or sometimes I go "he or she".

It's the English language.
If I asked you to call me with singular them (only about 100 years younger than plural them in English, btw...) at work, would you insist on following my sexual organs, even if your employer agreed with me?


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08 Sep 2022, 6:08 am

magz wrote:
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When we say "he" it means "that creature with a penis". When we say "she" it means "that creature with a vagina". When we say "it" it means "genderless" (such as an object or an unborn baby that you don't know the sex of). But "it" will be too offensive for these NBs. "They" means "more than one" (even if you're talking about objects).

If a person looks neither one gender not the other, or are born with both male and female genitals, usually I still choose which gender they look the most over the other, or sometimes I go "he or she".

It's the English language.
If I asked you to call me "them", would you insist on following my sexual organs?


Yes, unless you have a conjoined twin.
If a female is NB I still would say "she".


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08 Sep 2022, 6:11 am

And if I looked like a guy and talked like a guy, would you peek into my pants?


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08 Sep 2022, 6:11 am

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Yes, unless you have a conjoined twin.
If a female is NB I still would say "she".


id shut up if I were you.. :lol:


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08 Sep 2022, 6:12 am

magz wrote:
And if I looked like a guy and talked like a guy, would you peek into my pants?


No, I'd call you "he".


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08 Sep 2022, 6:12 am

Caz72 wrote:
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Yes, unless you have a conjoined twin.
If a female is NB I still would say "she".


id shut up if I were you.. :lol:


Yeah you're probably right..


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08 Sep 2022, 6:19 am

Just call the person by the preferred pronoun. Why get all testy and political about it?

I wish we could bring Jesus Himself, in flesh and blood form, into this debate.



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08 Sep 2022, 6:22 am

this discussion is becomign weird



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08 Sep 2022, 6:22 am

magz wrote:
And if I looked like a guy and talked like a guy, would you peek into my pants?


what kind of questionis that



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08 Sep 2022, 6:33 am

itscomplicated wrote:
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And if I looked like a guy and talked like a guy, would you peek into my pants?
what kind of questionis that

It's a question for those who conflate social gender with biological sex - an example explaining why and how they differ.
What one has in their* pants is a matter of themself, their sexual partners and their doctors - sex.
What one appears socially and what pronouns are used is gender.
They may or may not or may only partially be the same.
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*Hey, look, I'm just using the singular they in its centuries-old meaning!


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08 Sep 2022, 6:46 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
Just call the person by the preferred pronoun. Why get all testy and political about it?
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Ask the republican party and their supporters. They are the ones who seem incapable of decent conduct.



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08 Sep 2022, 7:02 am

I meant….by the RECIPIENT’S preferred pronoun.

I’m taking the “woke” position here.



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08 Sep 2022, 7:30 am

Like Caz72 said, I will shut up and I'm not going to explain my reasons for this pronoun crap, as my post will only get deleted and everyone will say that I "lack empathy" - which offends me just as much as these NBs being called "he" or "she". Being being "woke" doesn't mean lacking empathy.


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08 Sep 2022, 7:34 am

I'm fortunate that I've rarely been in this sort of situation---rather, I've NEVER been in this sort of situation.

But the best thing to do....is to "err" on the side of using a person's "preferred" pronoun. No harm is done in this to either person in the interaction.

If somebody says they want to be called "they" as a pronoun, I would just do it. There are people who don't like "gender" for whatever reason.

I wouldn't want to be called "they." I have no compunction about being a man---a "he."

It's not that I "believe" in gender for some religious reason or other----it's that I like it that there are women and men, though I wish we didn't have the "gender wars," and that men give women the benefit of the doubt, and vice versa.



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