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07 Jun 2023, 7:19 am

Supporters of Florida's longtime 'furry' festival have slammed Gov. Ron DeSantis after the annual event was forced to ban children under the age of 18.

A writer for Rolling Stone magazine even went as far as to say the move was proof that the 2024 Republican presidential candidate had 'sucked the pleasure out of many of life's little joys.'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -joys.html

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'Many have raised concerns about recent changes in Florida legislation,' the group said in a statement.

'After reviewing Florida SB 1438, it has been decided that for legal reasons and protection of our attendees, our venue and the overall convention, Megaplex 2023 attendees must be 18 years of age at the time of registration pickup.'

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07 Jun 2023, 9:12 am

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the 2024 Republican presidential candidate had 'sucked the pleasure out of many of life's little joys.'


Life's little joys like exposing children to obscenely explicit sexual performances. Those poor furries.


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07 Jun 2023, 4:43 pm

I think there are some adult concepts in the convention but the organisers made it clear there are no risks to kids. If you think about it it's no different to Disneyland where you have furries wandering around greeting kids and taking pictures with them.



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07 Jun 2023, 5:14 pm

Mikah wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
the 2024 Republican presidential candidate had 'sucked the pleasure out of many of life's little joys.'


Life's little joys like exposing children to obscenely explicit sexual performances. Those poor furries.

Since you're an expert on the Furry subculture could you please elaborate upon this, and explain this?

You, and any other expert out there.

Everything I know about Furries comes from seeing that one episode of CSI ten years ago (that one episode in which they found the dude dressed like chipmunk dead on the highway outside of Vegas).

All that I know is (a) they dress up as non human mammals, (b) they have big dorky conventions (like Trekkies), and (c) they have group hugs which might be considered sexual. According to the TV show its called "skrunching", but I have no idea if thats a real thing in Furrydom or not.

The participants are all grown ups. Never heard that they bring kids along. And Ive never heard that they do graphic sex, but even if they did they dont have kids around.

So...thats my understanding of it.

So...any and all experts in Furrydom..are now invited to weigh in and enlighten me about the subculture please. Am I wrong or right or both or what?



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07 Jun 2023, 5:25 pm

At this point just ban minors from going in public or interacting with any other human being at all. Snowflakes are just going to continue to find new things to whinge about and ban, until all kids in the U.S. are as bland, bored, and sad as their own kids are.



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07 Jun 2023, 5:35 pm

Well...we can compromise.

Allow Furries to have conventions, and encourage children to come, but ALSO mandate conceal and carry guns -especially AR15s at these conventions.

Kids seeing Furries is bad. But kids being shot by AR 15s in school (ergo any place else) is okay. So...it cancels out! :D



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07 Jun 2023, 7:10 pm

Mikah wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
the 2024 Republican presidential candidate had 'sucked the pleasure out of many of life's little joys.'


Life's little joys like exposing children to obscenely explicit sexual performances. Those poor furries.

Actually, furry conventions have adult sections appropriately squared away where minors are not allowed.

Also might help to clarify that the furry fandom is not a fetish or inherently sexual. Source: been a furry for over a decade


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07 Jun 2023, 7:15 pm

If I had known about furries when I was a minor this would be severely disappointing to me as I would have sold my kidneys to get into one of these conventions. I basically did everything furries did as a young teen.... except wear a costume, but I certainly wanted to and often daydreamed about it. Without knowing it was a real thing people did!

As an adult? I don't care so much since it doesn't keep me out, and I do think that while kids can engage in furry culture, that adult supervision is a must. Since adults make up a huge part of the fandom, there are adult sides to it and it's super easy to get groomed. Furries as a whole are not bad, but there are definitely people to watch out for.


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07 Jun 2023, 8:24 pm

I want to see Furries picketing outside of De Santis's Florida office

They have in the past been involved in anti-fascist protests

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Large numbers of furries have wanted to fight fascists

Hundreds of furries joined Antifa International three years later, after getting involved in the Occupy Wall Street protests. Antifa International (for anti-fascist) is a group dedicated to fighting right-wing politics, and to achieve that mission antifas are prepared to do anything up to and including punching Nazis.

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Now we know why DeSatan hates Furries....



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07 Jun 2023, 8:56 pm

Mikah wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
the 2024 Republican presidential candidate had 'sucked the pleasure out of many of life's little joys.'


Life's little joys like exposing children to obscenely explicit sexual performances. Those poor furries.


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Hell yeah brother, conservatives would never expose children to sexual performances.


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07 Jun 2023, 9:23 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
Mikah wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
the 2024 Republican presidential candidate had 'sucked the pleasure out of many of life's little joys.'


Life's little joys like exposing children to obscenely explicit sexual performances. Those poor furries.


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Hell yeah brother, conservatives would never expose children to sexual performances.


I think the MAGAs don't want their kids exposed to trans/gay/furry sex



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07 Jun 2023, 9:54 pm

cyberdad wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Mikah wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
the 2024 Republican presidential candidate had 'sucked the pleasure out of many of life's little joys.'


Life's little joys like exposing children to obscenely explicit sexual performances. Those poor furries.


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Hell yeah brother, conservatives would never expose children to sexual performances.


I think the MAGAs don't want their kids exposed to trans/gay/furry sex


They struggle to conceal their real motives when they pretend their anti-queer biases have anything to do with exposing children to obscenely explicit sexual performances


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07 Jun 2023, 10:18 pm

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They struggle to conceal their real motives when they pretend their anti-queer biases have anything to do with exposing children to obscenely explicit sexual performances


First thing conservatives teach their kids is how to speak bigotry in code.



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07 Jun 2023, 10:51 pm

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funeralxempire wrote:
They struggle to conceal their real motives when they pretend their anti-queer biases have anything to do with exposing children to obscenely explicit sexual performances


First thing conservatives teach their kids is how to speak bigotry in code.



But, if that's true, would it end at 18? They only want them to be 18 to attend, not to not attend at all. If it were true bigotry or anti-queer, wouldn't they try and ban the whole thing? I had no clue what a "Furry" even was, so I read about them and did see where the majority are gay. If we try and educate our members here on WP about the dangers of all grooming, heterosexual included. Is it really anti-gay just to want to make sure the attendees are at least 18 before they attend an event that can have adult enclaves?

I am somewhat envious of the minds of individuals who can enjoy role playing. I guess that's what this "Furries" is considered? I just don't get it. It doesn't make sense to me.


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07 Jun 2023, 10:57 pm

Persephone29 wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
They struggle to conceal their real motives when they pretend their anti-queer biases have anything to do with exposing children to obscenely explicit sexual performances


First thing conservatives teach their kids is how to speak bigotry in code.



But, if that's true, would it end at 18? They only want them to be 18 to attend, not to not attend at all. If it were true bigotry or anti-queer, wouldn't they try and ban the whole thing? I had no clue what a "Furry" even was, so I read about them and did see where the majority are gay. If we try and educate our members here on WP about the dangers of all grooming, heterosexual included. Is it really anti-gay just to want to make sure the attendees are at least 18 before they attend an event that can have adult enclaves?

I am somewhat envious of the minds of individuals who can enjoy role playing. I guess that's what this "Furries" is considered? I just don't get it. It doesn't make sense to me.


Anime cons have 'adult enclaves', but aren't typically restricted to adults. What's the difference?

But also, adult content being present doesn't directly relate to the issue of grooming, at least not unless there's a problem with adults bringing minors past where IDs are checked. If no minors are being exposed to adult content, it's hard to connect that adult content with grooming concerns.

We let kids in movie stores, even the ones that have a room with porno to rent.
We let kids into anime cons, despite being pretty much the same as furry cons except the costumes.

What's anti-gay is repeating the old slander that queer people are a greater threat to children than the average adult, they're just relying on euphemistic thinking to minimize the appearance of it being the exact same slander queer people are always subjected to.


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07 Jun 2023, 11:05 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
Persephone29 wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
They struggle to conceal their real motives when they pretend their anti-queer biases have anything to do with exposing children to obscenely explicit sexual performances


First thing conservatives teach their kids is how to speak bigotry in code.



But, if that's true, would it end at 18? They only want them to be 18 to attend, not to not attend at all. If it were true bigotry or anti-queer, wouldn't they try and ban the whole thing? I had no clue what a "Furry" even was, so I read about them and did see where the majority are gay. If we try and educate our members here on WP about the dangers of all grooming, heterosexual included. Is it really anti-gay just to want to make sure the attendees are at least 18 before they attend an event that can have adult enclaves?

I am somewhat envious of the minds of individuals who can enjoy role playing. I guess that's what this "Furries" is considered? I just don't get it. It doesn't make sense to me.


Anime cons have 'adult enclaves', but aren't typically restricted to adults. What's the difference?

But also, adult content being present doesn't directly relate to the issue of grooming, at least not unless there's a problem with adults bringing minors past where IDs are checked. If no minors are being exposed to adult content, it's hard to connect that adult content with grooming concerns.

We let kids in movie stores, even the ones that have a room with porno to rent.
We let kids into anime cons, despite being pretty much the same as furry cons except the costumes.

What's anti-gay is repeating the old slander that queer people are a greater threat to children than the average adult, they're just relying on euphemistic thinking to minimize the appearance of it being the exact same slander queer people are always subjected to.



My cousins were very into Comicons, I think that's how it's spelled. Their parents attended with them. If a parent (or concerned adult )attends with the person under 18, there should be no objections to that, imo. Like the NC-17 movies...

* my point was that when has age limit meant bigotry?


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