Reparations Bill Blames New York State for Fueling Slavery
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New York legislators are poised to pass a bill to create a commission to study the history of slavery in the state and to possibly recommend remedies and reparations to descendants of enslaved people.
Senate Bill 1163A says that New York's economic and cultural status has "been built and shaped by slavery" and that the state's income disparity, which is the largest in the country, "is in large part the legacy of our slave system."
"A sufficient inquiry has not been made into the effects of the institution of slavery on present day society in New York," the bill reads.
The New York bill is part of a national push to provide restitution for African Americans. It also comes just a month after a California task force voted to approve similar recommendations for one of the most significant reparation campaigns for descendants of enslaved people in modern U.S. history. In the past few weeks, federal lawmakers have introduced reparations legislation on Capitol Hill.
Democratic lawmakers in New York hope the Legislature will approve SB1163A in the coming days after the measure struggled for years to gain traction. State Senator James Sanders Jr. has proposed legislation to establish a reparations commission in New York since 2017, but the bill has never been voted on by either chamber.
"There's a real question of whether slavery would have been economically feasible without New York," Sanders told Politico. "New York provided the insurance for the slave industry; New York paid for many of the votes; New York bought much of the cotton."
Six years after a version of the bill was proposed, legislators are signaling that they're confident it will pass this year as the legislative session winds down. On Tuesday, state Assemblywoman Michaelle Solages introduced a version of the bill in the lower chamber.
The reparations campaign in California, which seeks $500 billion in payments, was criticized by some for seeking to provide restitution to residents living in a state that was not among the 15 Southern slave states. Like California, New York was one of 11 free states, but slaves are believed to have first arrived there around 1627, and slavery was not outlawed in the state until 1827—facts that Sanders' amended bill aims to address.
"Contrary to what many believe, slavery was not just a Southern institution," the bill states. "Prior to the American Revolution, there were more enslaved Africans in New York City than in any other city, except Charleston, South Carolina."
Sanders' revised proposal now includes the "long-standing generational impacts of slavery on African-Americans in New York," including housing discrimination, unequal pay, voter suppression, police brutality and disproportionate rates of incarceration.
If the bill passes, a commission could be set up as early as January 2024. There is no deadline as to when the nine-member panel would need to complete its report or offer its recommendations on reparations. New York would be the second major state, after California, to study reparations.
Three of the commission's nine members would be selected by the governor, three by the state Senate majority leader and three by the Assembly speaker—positions all held by Democrats. If the bill is approved by the Legislature, it would go to Governor Kathy Hochul for her signature to become law.
Senate Bill 1163A says that New York's economic and cultural status has "been built and shaped by slavery" and that the state's income disparity, which is the largest in the country, "is in large part the legacy of our slave system."
"A sufficient inquiry has not been made into the effects of the institution of slavery on present day society in New York," the bill reads.
The New York bill is part of a national push to provide restitution for African Americans. It also comes just a month after a California task force voted to approve similar recommendations for one of the most significant reparation campaigns for descendants of enslaved people in modern U.S. history. In the past few weeks, federal lawmakers have introduced reparations legislation on Capitol Hill.
Democratic lawmakers in New York hope the Legislature will approve SB1163A in the coming days after the measure struggled for years to gain traction. State Senator James Sanders Jr. has proposed legislation to establish a reparations commission in New York since 2017, but the bill has never been voted on by either chamber.
"There's a real question of whether slavery would have been economically feasible without New York," Sanders told Politico. "New York provided the insurance for the slave industry; New York paid for many of the votes; New York bought much of the cotton."
Six years after a version of the bill was proposed, legislators are signaling that they're confident it will pass this year as the legislative session winds down. On Tuesday, state Assemblywoman Michaelle Solages introduced a version of the bill in the lower chamber.
The reparations campaign in California, which seeks $500 billion in payments, was criticized by some for seeking to provide restitution to residents living in a state that was not among the 15 Southern slave states. Like California, New York was one of 11 free states, but slaves are believed to have first arrived there around 1627, and slavery was not outlawed in the state until 1827—facts that Sanders' amended bill aims to address.
"Contrary to what many believe, slavery was not just a Southern institution," the bill states. "Prior to the American Revolution, there were more enslaved Africans in New York City than in any other city, except Charleston, South Carolina."
Sanders' revised proposal now includes the "long-standing generational impacts of slavery on African-Americans in New York," including housing discrimination, unequal pay, voter suppression, police brutality and disproportionate rates of incarceration.
If the bill passes, a commission could be set up as early as January 2024. There is no deadline as to when the nine-member panel would need to complete its report or offer its recommendations on reparations. New York would be the second major state, after California, to study reparations.
Three of the commission's nine members would be selected by the governor, three by the state Senate majority leader and three by the Assembly speaker—positions all held by Democrats. If the bill is approved by the Legislature, it would go to Governor Kathy Hochul for her signature to become law.
Is it fair for people who were not around at the time, and maybe whose families had not immigrated yet here to pay people whose relatives may not have been slaves? No. Will it matter? No. Lost cause. When all is said and done a very robust reparations law will be passed because the legislature is very very progressive here.
Going forward once they get done with trans the right will have their wedge issue. Like so many things the fate of reparations will vary red state or blue state.
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This does not surprise me. History strongly suggests that most of the government buildings in the NewBosWash corridor built before 1860 involved thousands of slaves performing all of the back-breaking labor.
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Fnord wrote:
This does not surprise me. History strongly suggests that most of the government buildings in the NewBosWash corridor built before 1860 involved thousands of slaves performing all of the back-breaking labor.
Not quite true, and beside the point.
Slavery was outlawed in every eastern seaboard state north of the Mason-Dixon Line (the Md- Pennsylvania border) after 1804. So no public building would have used slaves in construction in the Phillie-to-Boston part of that corridor for generations before 1860.
But slavery WAS still legal in Maryland, Delaware, AND yes...in the Capital City in DC.
So yes...Federal Buildings in Washington would have involved slave labor to construct up to 1860. That is true.
But the point is that even though New York City itself didnt have slavery (the city had a lot of slaves in colonial times but not after 1794) New York City was the commercial and financial and shipping hub for everything...including cotton, sugar, and indigo, that were products of the slave plantations of the south (and the slave owning economies of the Caribbean too). And New York bankers lent the slave owners money and so forth. So New York was the economic engine that kept slavery going despite it not being a slave owning city itself. Or thats one way to look at it.
And even during the Civil War NYC was surprisingly Southern in its sympathies. One NYC pol even proposed that NYC should break away from the US and become a city state (like Singapore is now) so it could trade with both the Union and the Confederacy, and profit from being the middleman between the two hostile regions.
Whether this justifies this modern Reparations thing I dont know.
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Fnord wrote:
This does not surprise me. History strongly suggests that most of the government buildings in the NewBosWash corridor built before 1860 involved thousands of slaves performing all of the back-breaking labor.
Not quite true. . .This is too important to rely on my 50-year old memories of classroom history lessons.
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Fnord wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
Fnord wrote:
This does not surprise me. History strongly suggests that most of the government buildings in the NewBosWash corridor built before 1860 involved thousands of slaves performing all of the back-breaking labor.
Not quite true. . .This is too important to rely on my 50-year old memories of classroom history lessons.
Gosh! This IS just basic tenth grade stuff. But if you need a refresher just google "End of Slavery In the US" and a Wiki article of that title will come up.
I just now read the article myself to sharpen my focus on the specifics of individual states outlawing slavery. But its just review of stuff every school kid learns the general concept of (ie that in the 19th Century the north was free and the south had slaves, and a "house divided against itself, half free, and half slave, cannot stand").
The basic idea is that individual states in the northeast gradually phased out slavery in the 1700s. The north central states west of Pennsylvania (but east of the Mississippi) were all part of the Northwest Territories. And THAT territory while still a territory outlawed slavery. So all of it daughter states inherited that law (Michigan, Wisconsin, Indiana, Illinois, and Ohio). So thats how the whole nation east of the Mississippi and north of the Ohio/Mason Dixon line became free. South of the Pennsylvania border. and south of the Ohio became slave states. The wild west west of the Mississippi were up for grabs. And that why all of the wrangling in congress over admitting new territories as slave or free states ensued.
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naturalplastic wrote:
And even during the Civil War NYC was surprisingly Southern in its sympathies. One NYC pol even proposed that NYC should break away from the US and become a city state (like Singapore is now) so it could trade with both the Union and the Confederacy, and profit from being the middleman between the two hostile regions.
Whether this justifies this modern Reparations thing I dont know.
Outside of the Civil War itself, NYC was where the worst insurrection in American History occurred.
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ASPartOfMe wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
And even during the Civil War NYC was surprisingly Southern in its sympathies. One NYC pol even proposed that NYC should break away from the US and become a city state (like Singapore is now) so it could trade with both the Union and the Confederacy, and profit from being the middleman between the two hostile regions.
Whether this justifies this modern Reparations thing I dont know.
Outside of the Civil War itself, NYC was where the worst insurrection in American History occurred.
Yes. A horrible anti draft riot broke out that took like 2000 lives. Army units that had just gotten through defeating Lee at Gettysburg had to march in to the city to help quell it.
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