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08 Jun 2023, 9:13 am

Am I a bad person because I can't think of anything nice to say about Pat Robertson now that he's dead?

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08 Jun 2023, 9:22 am

What nice things can be said of him? Good riddance, I say.


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08 Jun 2023, 10:14 am

I feel like I should buy some liquor. :o


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08 Jun 2023, 10:38 am

Is Robert Pattinson okay?


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08 Jun 2023, 11:55 am

Well...Pat Robertson DID admit that every Texas oilman he ever talked to told him that you had to use modern geology (ie Darwin and evolution) to find oil. Therefore there was a limit to how literally you could take the Bible.

So he had SOME moderating effect on Fundamentalism.



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08 Jun 2023, 12:44 pm

Now if only a different crazy old man would join him.*

*Although, then we wouldn't get to watch the criminal trials and his crazy meltdowns on troth sensial.


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08 Jun 2023, 1:47 pm

:lol: This is a meme from internet comedian Ian Thomas Malone who makes Thomas the tank engine memes:

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08 Jun 2023, 5:05 pm

Well, I'll quote the late Betty Davis: "The say you should only say good things about the dead. He's dead: good!"


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08 Jun 2023, 5:49 pm

Sadly, there are many religious right-wingers out there more inflammatory than him.


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08 Jun 2023, 5:59 pm

For some reason (probably because I am an idiot) I got this thread confused with your other thread about The Iron Sheik, and I was thinking, damn he really was a dark horse. :twisted:


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08 Jun 2023, 6:11 pm

I was just thinking about how celebs die in pairs.

Sometimes with odd juxtapositions.

Gordon Lightfoot and Harry Belafonte were both giants in folk music.

Years ago Lord Olivier died the same week as Mel Blanc (a man of a thousand faces dies alongside a man of a thousand voices).

And now...Pat Robertson and the Iron Sheik.



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08 Jun 2023, 6:36 pm

How sad . . . he never recanted . . . never repented . . . never apologized  . . . may God have mercy on his soul.

Edit: Mr. Robertson DID recant, repent, and apologize for SOME of his offenses, but not all of them . . .


Wikipedia wrote:
As a commentator and minister, Robertson frequently generated controversy.  The divisive and dehumanizing nature of his comments resulted in some of his remarks becoming the subject of national and international media attention, prompting responses from politicians.

Robertson's service as a minister included the belief in the healing power of God.  He cautioned believers that some Protestant denominations may harbor the spirit of the Antichrist; prayed to deflect hurricanes; denounced Hinduism as "demonic" and Islam as "Satanic".

Robertson denounced left-wing views of feminism, activism regarding homosexuality, abortion, and liberal college professors.

Critics claim Robertson had business dealings in Africa with former president of Liberia and convicted war criminal Charles Taylor, and former Zaire president Mobutu Sese Seko, both of whom had been internationally denounced for claims of human rights violations.

Robertson was criticized internationally for his call for Hugo Chávez's assassination, and for his remarks concerning Ariel Sharon's ill-health as an act of God.

In an interview on The 700 Club, Robertson stated:

"I have said last year that Israel was entering into the most dangerous period of its entire existence as a nation.  That is intensifying this year with the loss of Sharon. Sharon was personally a very likeable person. I am sad to see him in this condition.  But I think we need to look at the Bible and the Book of Joel.  The prophet Joel makes it very clear that God has enmity against those who, quote, "divide my land."  God considers this land to be his.  You read the Bible, he says, "This is my land."  And for any prime minister of Israel who decides he going carve it up and give it away, God says, "No. This is mine."  And the same thing -- I had a wonderful meeting with Yitzhak Rabin in 1974.  He was tragically assassinated, and it was terrible thing that happened, but nevertheless, he was dead.  And now Ariel Sharon, who was again a very likeable person, a delightful person to be with.  I prayed with him personally.  But here he is at the point of death.  He was dividing God's land, and I would say woe unto any prime minister of Israel who takes a similar course to appease the EU, the United Nations, or United States of America.  God said, "This land belongs to me, you better leave it alone."

During the week of September 11, 2001, Robertson interviewed Jerry Falwell, who expressed his own opinion that "the ACLU has to take a lot of blame for this" in addition to "the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays, and the lesbians [who have] helped [the terror attacks of September 11th] happen."  Robertson replied, "I totally concur".

Less than two weeks after Hurricane Katrina killed 1,836 people, Robertson implied on the September 12, 2005 broadcast of The 700 Club that the storm was God's punishment in response to America's abortion policy.  He suggested that the September 11 attacks and the disaster in New Orleans "could [...] be connected in some way".

In 2009, Robertson said that Islam is "a violent political system bent on the overthrow of the governments of the world and world domination".  He went on to elaborate that "you're dealing with not a religion, you're dealing with a political system, and I think we should treat it as such, and treat its adherents as such as we would members of the communist party, members of some fascist group".

Robertson's response to the 2010 Haiti earthquake also drew international condemnation.  Robertson claimed that Haiti's founders had sworn a "pact to the Devil" in order to liberate themselves from the French slave owners and indirectly attributed the earthquake to the consequences of the Haitian people being "cursed" for doing so.  Various figures in mainline and evangelical[89] Christianity have on occasion disavowed some of Robertson's remarks.

In March 2015, Robertson compared Buddhism to a disease on The 700 Club.  The American Center for Law and Justice (ACLJ), a conservative Christian watchdog group Robertson founded to promote Christian prayer in public schools, called for a multi-pronged attack on mindfulness programs because "they appear to be similar to Buddhist religious practices. Proponents of secular mindfulness say mindfulness is not a Buddhist practice; it is a contemplative practice used in religious traditions around the world by many different names."



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08 Jun 2023, 7:04 pm

Recidivist wrote:
For some reason (probably because I am an idiot) I got this thread confused with your other thread about The Iron Sheik, and I was thinking, damn he really was a dark horse. :twisted:


Oh, no, the Sheik was actually cool in real life!


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09 Jun 2023, 10:47 pm

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09 Jun 2023, 11:03 pm

Fnord wrote:
How sad . . . he never recanted . . . never repented . . . never apologized  . . . may God have mercy on his soul.

Edit: Mr. Robertson DID recant, repent, and apologize for SOME of his offenses, but not all of them . . .


Wikipedia wrote:
As a commentator and minister, Robertson frequently generated controversy.  The divisive and dehumanizing nature of his comments resulted in some of his remarks becoming the subject of national and international media attention, prompting responses from politicians.

Robertson's service as a minister included the belief in the healing power of God.  He cautioned believers that some Protestant denominations may harbor the spirit of the Antichrist; prayed to deflect hurricanes; denounced Hinduism as "demonic" and Islam as "Satanic".

Robertson denounced left-wing views of feminism, activism regarding homosexuality, abortion, and liberal college professors.

Critics claim Robertson had business dealings in Africa with former president of Liberia and convicted war criminal Charles Taylor, and former Zaire president Mobutu Sese Seko, both of whom had been internationally denounced for claims of human rights violations.

Robertson was criticized internationally for his call for Hugo Chávez's assassination, and for his remarks concerning Ariel Sharon's ill-health as an act of God.

In an interview on The 700 Club, Robertson stated:

"I have said last year that Israel was entering into the most dangerous period of its entire existence as a nation.  That is intensifying this year with the loss of Sharon. Sharon was personally a very likeable person. I am sad to see him in this condition.  But I think we need to look at the Bible and the Book of Joel.  The prophet Joel makes it very clear that God has enmity against those who, quote, "divide my land."  God considers this land to be his.  You read the Bible, he says, "This is my land."  And for any prime minister of Israel who decides he going carve it up and give it away, God says, "No. This is mine."  And the same thing -- I had a wonderful meeting with Yitzhak Rabin in 1974.  He was tragically assassinated, and it was terrible thing that happened, but nevertheless, he was dead.  And now Ariel Sharon, who was again a very likeable person, a delightful person to be with.  I prayed with him personally.  But here he is at the point of death.  He was dividing God's land, and I would say woe unto any prime minister of Israel who takes a similar course to appease the EU, the United Nations, or United States of America.  God said, "This land belongs to me, you better leave it alone."

During the week of September 11, 2001, Robertson interviewed Jerry Falwell, who expressed his own opinion that "the ACLU has to take a lot of blame for this" in addition to "the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays, and the lesbians [who have] helped [the terror attacks of September 11th] happen."  Robertson replied, "I totally concur".

Less than two weeks after Hurricane Katrina killed 1,836 people, Robertson implied on the September 12, 2005 broadcast of The 700 Club that the storm was God's punishment in response to America's abortion policy.  He suggested that the September 11 attacks and the disaster in New Orleans "could [...] be connected in some way".

In 2009, Robertson said that Islam is "a violent political system bent on the overthrow of the governments of the world and world domination".  He went on to elaborate that "you're dealing with not a religion, you're dealing with a political system, and I think we should treat it as such, and treat its adherents as such as we would members of the communist party, members of some fascist group".

Robertson's response to the 2010 Haiti earthquake also drew international condemnation.  Robertson claimed that Haiti's founders had sworn a "pact to the Devil" in order to liberate themselves from the French slave owners and indirectly attributed the earthquake to the consequences of the Haitian people being "cursed" for doing so.  Various figures in mainline and evangelical[89] Christianity have on occasion disavowed some of Robertson's remarks.

In March 2015, Robertson compared Buddhism to a disease on The 700 Club.  The American Center for Law and Justice (ACLJ), a conservative Christian watchdog group Robertson founded to promote Christian prayer in public schools, called for a multi-pronged attack on mindfulness programs because "they appear to be similar to Buddhist religious practices. Proponents of secular mindfulness say mindfulness is not a Buddhist practice; it is a contemplative practice used in religious traditions around the world by many different names."


He wanted to kill Hugo Chavez? Makes me want to support the Venezuelan government even more.


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