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27 Dec 2023, 10:56 pm

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Nikki Haley declined to say that slavery was a cause of the Civil War on Wednesday evening, placing the blame, instead, on the role of government.

The former UN Ambassador and South Carolina governor, who has seen her star rise in the first-in-the-nation primary state, was appearing at a town hall event in Berlin, New Hampshire, when a voter asked her to identify the cause of the war.

“I think the cause of the Civil War was basically how government was going to run,” she responded. “The freedoms and what people could and couldn’t do. What do you think the cause of the Civil War was or argument?”
The questioner, who could not be easily heard off camera, was apparently unpersuaded by Haley’s response. When she asked him what he believed the cause of the war was, he replied that he wasn’t running for president.

“I think it always comes down to the role of government and what the rights of the people are,” Haley replied. “And I will always stand by the fact that I think government was intended to secure the rights and freedoms of the people. It was never meant to be all things to all people. Government doesn’t need to tell you how to live your life. They don’t need to tell you what you can and can’t do. They don’t need to be a part of your life. They need to make sure that you have freedom. We need to have capitalism. We need to have economic freedom. We need to make sure that we do all things so that individuals have the liberties so that they can have freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom to do or be anything they want to be without government getting in the way.”


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27 Dec 2023, 11:02 pm

despicable.



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27 Dec 2023, 11:08 pm

It's dumb, but there's been a long-standing rhetoric that the civil war was not about slavery. I remember coming across it in books when studying the war.


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28 Dec 2023, 12:23 am

How sickening. Denial at its finest.


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28 Dec 2023, 12:25 am

evil at its core. anybody that even had a cursory look at our history knows that the south wanted to expand slavery to new states while the north did not. that means that a primary cause of the civil war was over different philosophies regarding the expansion of slavery.



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28 Dec 2023, 12:28 am

Playing to her southern republican base.



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28 Dec 2023, 12:29 am

GOP went from opposing slavery to denying that it was a cause of the civil war.



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28 Dec 2023, 12:31 am

I didn't realize I could be shocked and still not surprised at the same time.



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28 Dec 2023, 1:01 am

as long as one cares, one continues to be shocked.



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28 Dec 2023, 2:36 am

cyberdad wrote:
Playing to her southern republican base.

Trying to pry away votes from Trump would be more accurate.

As a neo con she has no MAGA support.

Support for the Confederacy is no longer a mostly regional matter due to racism and as a way to trigger progressives("own the libs")


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28 Dec 2023, 3:24 am

ASPartOfMe wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Playing to her southern republican base.

Trying to pry away votes from Trump would be more accurate.

As a neo con she has no MAGA support.

Support for the Confederacy is no longer a mostly regional matter due to racism and as a way to trigger progressives("own the libs")


She saw the the Iowa republican's positive response to Trump's blood poison speech. Not sure how her son in law thinks?



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28 Dec 2023, 4:58 am

I'm trying to see the link to autism...?



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28 Dec 2023, 10:17 am

She's just stupid. She just got caught up in some hair-splitting argument and her brain could not adapt.

Expect a press release on twitter today explaining that she does really believe slavery was a cause of the Civil war and was taken out of context.



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28 Dec 2023, 10:23 am

renaeden wrote:
I'm trying to see the link to autism...?


Yes.

This thread is in the wrong subforum.

Should be in "Current Events", or maybe in "PPR".

Def not in "General Autism".



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28 Dec 2023, 10:32 am

ASPartOfMe wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Playing to her southern republican base.

Trying to pry away votes from Trump would be more accurate.

)

Well...she is trying not to alienate the MAGA mob.

Except for Chris Christie they are all actually either applying for a job in the Next Trump administration.

Or theyre hoping that the old man croaks, is carted off the senile folks home, or is carted off to the big house, by election day, so that...his cult will need somewhere else to go...and will go to them. :lol:

So they have to give lip service to that cult mob.



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28 Dec 2023, 1:02 pm

renaeden wrote:
I'm trying to see the link to autism...?

OMG you are right I am going to request this thread be moved.


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