Whistleblower claims US govt has non-human craft

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In the wake of the NASA conference several days ago, a US intelligence officer has disclosed the Pentagon has more than just pictures.

The US has a trove of parts and equipment from 'non-human origin' UFOs which have crash landed on earth, the whistleblower claims
Former intelligence officer David Charles Grusch said the US is also engaged in top-secret operations that attempt to 'reverse-engineer' the pieces
'The material includes intact and partially intact vehicles,' said Grusch
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... lower.html

Grusch also claims that the information has been illegally withheld from Congress as the government tried to hide the finds, which are involved in an '80-year arms race' to take advantage of the technology.

Grusch, who served in Afghanistan and worked for the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA) and National Reconnaissance Office (NRO), has handed over details of the alleged operations to Congress and the Intelligence Community Inspector General.

He has also filed a complaint against the Department of Defense and claims he's been ostracized for his decision to blow the whistle.

The 36-year-old worked on the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force from 2019-2021.

He also claims that the US has part of 'non-human origin technical vehicles'.

'Call it spacecraft if you will. It's probably not the right parlance. But no kidding, non-human exotic origin vehicles that have either landed or crashed.'

He said the evidence amounted to spacecraft from other species.

Unless he can provide a sevenator for my own interplanetary spacecraft, I will hold my belief in abeyance.

A wave of netizens have declared that the remains of the Roswell crash that ended up in Hangar 18 in Wright Patterson Airbase, Dayton Ohio and Bob Lazar's account of engineered exotic craft in Area 51, Groom Lake. near Edwards Airforce base are now quite possibly of non-human origin.

I would not go so far as to say this verifies alien life but I am curious what they are (or were?) hiding in these locations.

Americans spent 287million hours watching Stranger Things in Netflx but can barely utter a squeak at strange things happening in their own backyards.

He just finished an interview with Newsone



He also claims the US government is keeping alien bodies

Cool story.. but why would this change much of anything for anyone even if it's 100% true?

If they've been visiting from some other place/time etc And we haven't been attacked, then it seems they're probably pretty harmless to us. So no big reason to have all of humanity "prepare," for something as if we need to somehow formulate a plan to defend ourselves from others.

Probably kept secret for 2 reasons:

1. People are stupid and would panic even if there's no threat - just basic fear of the unknown stuff.

2. If they have superior technology, whoever recovers & reverse engineers it gets to reign supreme here on Earth and beyond.. soooo, of course if the US gov't had such a program they wouldn't want to advertise it to adversaries who then might get in on the action.



Not sure how this time is any different than the reports of the US gov't hiding aliens/alien technology for the last, what, 75+ years ? Same story, different day, changes ~nothing until something actually happens.

This seems to be the next big question, Why has the government been so two-faced about this? All the evidence is lining up that they have known about unidentified anomalous phenomena (the new acronym for UAP since the objects have obviously been observed by NASA in space) for 75 years?

The only possible reason might be to do with national security. There is correspondence between Churchill and Truman after WWII suggesting acknowledgement of military personnel and pilots seeing these objects. Some suggest that acknowledging these unknowns might give our enemy (Nazis? Soviets? Chinese?) some Intel on what type of sensors the US government had to monitor air, land, water and space.

Another possible reason for non-disclosure is potential mass panic and social disintegration at the news we are being subject to random anal probing from little grey men who in our distant past were the gods our ancestors worshipped.

Both Grusch (a former intelligence operative) and Stanford professor Garry Nolan, who has researched UAPs for the US government, have both made a similar claims about crash retrievals. Both men face considerable backlash over their disclosure which breaches NDAs they likely signed.

The pathology professor at Stanford’s School of Medicine, who has published more than 300 research articles and holds 40 US patents, was speaking at the Salt iConnections conference in New York last month during a session titled “The Pentagon, Extraterrestrial Intelligence and Crashed UFOs”.

Dr Nolan was asked if he believed extraterrestrial intelligence had visited earth.

“I think you can go a step further — it hasn’t just visited, it’s been here a long time and it’s still here,” Dr Nolan replied.
https://www.news.com.au/technology/scie ... c3717715bf

This kind of rumor has been floating around for over 75 years.  Either it happened or it did not.

It seems unlikely that our government would be adept at keeping the evidence from public view while totally inept at keeping it a secret.

Still waiting for incontrovertible proof -- something other than doctored Youtube videos and the ravings of idiots.

ummm they actually haven't. If you follow the progress of this phenomena over 75+ years hundreds of US military, airforce, navy personnel have come forward telling investigators they were forced to keep this a secret either under a written NDA or verbal.

As far back as 2001
https://www.worldcat.org/title/52741633

Since then many hundreds of personel have come forward including senior staff in charge of nuclear facilities

I'm sorry but
The Head (and founder) of Psychiatry at Harvard the late Professor John Mack
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_E._Mack

The head of Astronomy at Harvard Professor Avi Loeb
https://astronomy.fas.harvard.edu/people/avi-loeb

And Stanford professor Garry Nolan, who is head of pathology at Stanford’s School of Medicine, who has published more than 300 research articles and holds 40 US patents,
https://med.stanford.edu/profiles/garry-nolan

These three men are not raving idiots. Neither was the former head of intelligence in Israel or the military generals in charge of nuclear facilities who have participated in disclosure projects. The days where you could throw slurs at people coming forward are long gone Fnord. Keep up with the times.

Then I will amend my statement thusly:

"Still waiting for incontrovertible proof -- something other than doctored Youtube videos, the ravings of idiots, and the opinions of irrelevant authorities."

For instance, John Mack founded the "Program for Extraordinary Experience Research", and is a proponent of "alien-abduction therapy" to allegedly help the hundreds of thousands of Americans whom he believes may have at some point have been abducted by aliens.

Aside from the fact that mere belief is not proof, it may be safe to assume that Mr. Mack makes a great deal of money off the fears and doubts of his followers.

Prof Mack died in a hit and run back in 2004. He was actually already famous and world renowned before he started his investigation into the alien abduction phenomena. I have a copy of his biography and what it was his patient's claims were not being taken seriously so he took it upon himself to write detailed case files on abduction. No attempt to this date has been made to refute his research although Harvard tried removing him.

He is also the only academic in the history of Harvard who was subject to a witch hunt where members of faculty alleged his research bought medicine in harvard into disrepute. Due to the immense respect Mack had from the School of Medicine for his enormous corpus of work, the Harvard enquiry was quashed and an apology was issued to him. It was a lesson to Harvard that universities are places of inquiry not static dogma.

Well it's official!

The US congress oversight committee to investigate allegations that US has possession of ‘intact or partially intact’ alien vehicles
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/ ... estigation

I'm afraid if your congress takes this more seriously than members of the public who pay their salaries

More developments (seems every day)


Sources establish there are 12 exotic craft in the possession of the US government and/or military contractors
Whisteblower David Grusch describes one of the reasons for not releasing this information before is something he himslef experienced which is ontological shock
ontological shock (countable and uncountable, plural ontological shocks) (philosophy) The state of being forced to question one's worldview.

The consequence of ontological shock from knowledge that aliens are visiting earth is an unknown but the there is a risk of complete panic/pandemonium and possibly even social pandemonium

Well...maybe I was right.

That the powers-that-be are "softening us up" by allowing little leaks here and there.

And at some future point..the POTUS will come out on TV and say "we are not alone".

Actually that's precisely the language used by the whistleblower (very insightful)

The US government are using a "soft approach" in preparing the US public. It may take several more years (and I would not be surprised if it will be another decade) but we are getting close to full disclosure.

The stumbling blocks are the NDAs signed by US military staff which I think are to protect the IP being developed my military contractors. My guess is private contractors are the ones keeping a tight lid and dragging this out. IP to research and develop advanced tech is highly lucrative and for all we know there has been joint ventures for several decades mining asteroids for minerals using space tech kept secret,