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29 Jun 2025, 2:40 am

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/business/money-report/trumps-big-beautiful-bill-clears-key-senate-hurdle-after-high-drama/6319589/


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29 Jun 2025, 2:57 am

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01 Jul 2025, 5:05 pm

this bill is literally a wish list come true for all the oligarchs and their toadies who wish for a return to feudalism for the 99%.



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01 Jul 2025, 5:12 pm

We are deep into the poo..Thanks to our own public representatives,Congress people, Wonder why noone did a fillibuster to halt its passage? . This and the Patriot both will need very badly to be repealed, for the sake of the majority of the humans in this USA country . Just sad making ...


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03 Jul 2025, 4:19 pm

House passes "big, beautiful bill," sending it to Trump's desk in 218-214 vote

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The House on Thursday passed the signature piece of legislation of President Trump's second term, approving a massive bill that includes trillions of dollars in tax and spending cuts while ramping up funding for defense and implementing the administration's immigration agenda.

The lower chamber voted 218 to 214 to approve the measure, with two Republicans — Reps. Thomas Massie of Kentucky and Brian Fitzpatrick of Pennsylvania — joining all Democrats in opposing the bill. The Senate passed the legislation, dubbed the "big, beautiful bill," earlier this week.

President Trump plans to sign the bill at a ceremony at the White House on Friday, coinciding with the July 4 holiday.

The vote came after a marathon overnight session that saw GOP leaders overcome internal opposition to advance the bill, paving the way for final passage. Most Republican members who balked at many of the changes the Senate made to the legislation eventually relented and voted to pass it.

Once it became clear that GOP leaders had the votes they needed, House Democratic Leader Hakeem Jeffries tried to delay the inevitable by speaking on the floor for 8 hours and 44 minutes, setting the record for the longest House speech in U.S. history. He called out Republicans for the bill's deep cuts to Medicaid and food assistance programs, highlighting the Americans who he said would suffer because of the bill.

Johnson touted the legislation's passage after the vote, outlining the long path to passage since the bill was initially dreamt up more than a year ago, while saying it all came down to "belief."

"We had a vision for what we wanted to do as a group. We believed in the election cycle last fall that we were going to be given this great blessing of unified government," Johnson said. "And we did not want to waste that opportunity."

The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office estimates the bill would add $3.4 trillion to federal deficits over the next 10 years and leave millions without health insurance, due to the cuts to Medicaid and programs under the Affordable Care Act. It would also dramatically increase funding for immigration enforcement, a key priority for Republicans and the president.

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The final vote came after House GOP leadership scrambled Wednesday and into the wee hours Thursday to shore up support for the measure ahead of a key procedural vote to approve the rules for debate on the floor.

Although Johnson spent weeks pleading with his Senate counterparts not to make any major changes to the version of the bill that passed the lower chamber by a single vote in May, the Senate made a number of tweaks that irked House members on a number of fronts — from its cuts to Medicaid to its impact on the deficit. Johnson acknowledged that the Senate bill's changes "went a little further than many of us would've preferred," though he repeatedly urged that the final product was largely what the House had signed off on in May.

The Senate-passed bill included steeper Medicaid cuts, a higher increase in the debt limit and changes to the House bill's green energy policies and the state and local tax deduction that irked many House members. Other controversial provisions that faced pushback in both chambers, including the sale of public lands in nearly a dozen states, a 10-year moratorium on states regulating artificial intelligence and an excise tax on the renewable energy industry, were stripped from the Senate bill before heading back to the House.

Potential holdouts, including moderates and members of the conservative House Freedom Caucus, met with Mr. Trump on Wednesday as the White House pressured House Republicans to vote for the bill.

The vote on the key procedural hurdle began around 9:30 p.m. Wednesday and didn't wrap up until about 3:20 a.m. Thursday. Five House Republicans initially voted no on the rule, which would have been enough to tank the vote. But GOP leaders kept the vote open as they worked to shore up support, allowing lawmakers to change from no to yes.

Johnson told reporters that Mr. Trump was "directly engaged" with skeptical members to get them onboard.

"Members wanted to hear certain assurances from him about what's ahead, what the future will entail, and what we're going to do next, and all of that," Johnson said. "And he was very, very helpful in that process."

Mr. Trump ramped up the pressure over Truth Social as a handful of Republican holdouts didn't appear to be budging, declaring: "FOR REPUBLICANS, THIS SHOULD BE AN EASY YES VOTE. RIDICULOUS!! !"

"What are the Republicans waiting for??? What are you trying to prove??? MAGA IS NOT HAPPY, AND IT'S COSTING YOU VOTES!! !" Mr. Trump wrote shortly after midnight.

The House ultimately voted 219 to 213 to advance the bill in a key victory for Republican leaders, who won the support of about a dozen GOP opponents to the rule. And when the vote finally came to an end, Fitzpatrick was the sole Republican opposed. He would also vote against final passage.

Johnson told reporters that the breakthrough came amid help from the president, along with lengthy listening sessions with the bill's opponents, "making sure that their concerns were addressed."

"A lot of people had to take the time to thoroughly go through the Senate's changes to our bill and that's fine," Johnson said. "That was necessary to get them to yes."

Ultimately, only Massie and Fitzpatrick bucked GOP leaders to vote against the legislation. Massie, a conservative, had drawn the ire of the president due to his stance against the bill for weeks. He said in a statement after Thursday's vote that he voted against it "because it will significantly increase U.S. budget deficits in the near term, negatively impacting all Americans through sustained inflation and high interest rates."

Fitzpatrick said that the Senate's changes to the initial House legislation were too drastic for him to support.

"[I]t was the Senate's amendments to Medicaid, in addition to several other Senate provisions, that altered the analysis for our PA-1 community," the Pennsylvania Republican said in a statement, referring to his district. "The original House language was written in a way that protected our community; the Senate amendments fell short of our standard. I believe in, and will always fight for, policies that are thoughtful, compassionate, and good for our community. It is this standard that will always guide my legislative decisions."


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03 Jul 2025, 4:21 pm

It was a good run, but nothing lasts forever (even cold November rain).

RIP America.


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03 Jul 2025, 5:17 pm

Well, this is a disaster.



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03 Jul 2025, 6:43 pm

Corruption thrives more than ever, it appears. The US that I once loved and visited no longer exists. Trump has destroyed your country.



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03 Jul 2025, 7:18 pm

SendInTheClowns wrote:
Trump has destroyed your country.


Trump will do anything to be viewed as a dictator, he enjoyed his parade back on June 14th.

It was meant to be a celebration of the US Armed Forces, not a granted birthday wish for Trump.


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05 Jul 2025, 5:23 pm

Is his hair real I’ve never seen that hairstyle in England



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06 Jul 2025, 8:10 am

Will133 wrote:
Is his hair real I’ve never seen that hairstyle in England


His hair is a living creature.



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06 Jul 2025, 8:36 am

blitzkrieg wrote:
Will133 wrote:
Is his hair real I’ve never seen that hairstyle in England


His hair is a living creature.


The asp caterpillar.


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06 Jul 2025, 3:31 pm

auntblabby wrote:
this bill is literally a wish list come true for all the oligarchs and their toadies who wish for a return to feudalism for the 99%.


Let me guess, there will be cuts to public services/healthcare and government spending and then tax breaks for the rich? :roll:



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15 Jul 2025, 2:44 pm

blitzkrieg wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
this bill is literally a wish list come true for all the oligarchs and their toadies who wish for a return to feudalism for the 99%.


Let me guess, there will be cuts to public services/healthcare and government spending and then tax breaks for the rich? :roll:


Perhaps even worse...If I'm not mistaken the tax breaks are only for the 0,2% richest people. Not long ago we spoke about the 1%...distant memory.


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17 Jul 2025, 11:33 am

What gets me is, The GOP cries about spending and deficits when they are in the minority but when in the majority it's anything goes or as Dick Cheney once said, " Deficits don't matter". Not that I think for a minute The Democrats have any interest in cutting spending or getting things in balance.



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Yesterday, 2:43 pm

the feudalists from centuries ago have reincarnated en masse and are taking over again, reinstituting feudalism, step by step.