Aspie mom has baby taken away just because of the AS.

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This SOOOO f-ing pisses me off.

There was a thread about this in July when this happened.

I remember this. pissed me off too.

Thats horrible... I wonder if their is something else we dont know about like maby mental health history or whatever dont know much about England but I do know here in the US they wont take a child away just cause the mother has AS.

All I can say is someday when I have kids, I have done all the right things not to screw that up. But if someone came to take my kids quite the fight would result. It would not be easy for them...

Just because she has AS? Totally unfair and unjustified to take kids away. They seem to think that Aspies are demented child abusers.

That's it.

Like NTs, do you mean?

That's a broad, sweeping generalisation of NTs too. I mean, so many people, even government workers, are misinformed and ignorant of aspies in general, and just stereotype people with Asperger's as those social workers did.
Only a small minority of NTs, etc, are child abusers, as is the same with Aspies.

It's because of this sort of thing that I will never seek a diagnosis. Too many ways it can be used against you.

NOTICE TO ALL "LIBERALS"

IF you want a large government empowered to solve poverty and global warming and inequity between people. . .

IF you want a large government to ban smoking and wasteful SUVs and firearms. . .

THEN you must accept that that large and powerful government may determine to rain on your parade too sometimes.

The issue is whether the individual or the collective is primary.

This is not an issue of "big" government versus "small" government (a dichotomy that I consider way too oversimplifying to be useful, anyway), it is an issue about BAD government. I'm, sure "conservatives" wouldn't mind taking the kids of a lesbian mother away, funny how that works...

After seven Bush years has the government taken a lesbian' child away? No.

A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you have.

Well, this government certainly isn't big enough to give me everything I want, but by the patriot act it could ship me off to Cuba and lock me up until... well, there's really no time limit on these things, so I guess until it'd be until I die. I'd sure call that being able to take away everything I have.

And since you seem to care so much about children and gay rights, I assure you they could do the same to a lesbian's child.

I didn't even notice what the topic was. How did it get so off? At any rate, don't feel so bad English people, our government is totally messed up too.

I am not a liberal, and I do not agree that social services should have such intrusive powers unless a child is definitely in danger.
The massive bureaucracy needs to be cut down.
It depends on what parts of government you are talking about. And corporations can be just as bad if the government doesn't regulate them.

I hate to continue keeping this off-topic, but government in the US has been bigger under Bush than it had ever been before him.

On topic now, naturally, I find this totally unjust. I hope that UK aspies will find some way to protest this and create large-scale awareness about her plight.

Yes. The US government is huge under Bush. But then, Bush is not a conservative. Most Republicans are just slightly right of Karl Marx.

My original comment stands. Big governments are intrusive. Every dollar a government has is a dollar that a citizen lacks. Every bit of power a government projects is a right lost by someone.

What defines a good ot bad gobernment? Is it good whenever it does something you pwrsonally agree with, and bad when it defies your wishes? This is so subjective and would at limiting value place you as dictator.

The difference between large and small gobernment is objectively measured. And a small gobernment cannot do things as referenced in this thread.

The goal ought to be to reduce government. That reduces government's intrinsic capability to do this sort of thing. What exactly is wrong with personal responsibility?