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16 Feb 2008, 8:00 pm

The format war is over, folks: Blu-Ray has won the day.

Reuters: Toshiba to exit HD-DVD, end format war



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16 Feb 2008, 11:33 pm

isn't that what Sony said about Betamax, back in the day?..;)

we'll see...let the market decide...



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17 Feb 2008, 3:02 am

Look I just bought a cd player 5 years ago. A DVD player three and I'm NOT upgrading my Nintendo untill I beat the games I already have.


So what does this mean?

I have a simple dvd/vhs player.


I hear next year antenna will be obsolete. Thats fine since I pitched mine in 2002. And don't have cable



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17 Feb 2008, 3:40 am

Part of the success of the PS2 and Xbox over the Dreamcast was due to their marketing, not the qualities of the technologies that each uses. Dreamcast seemed like a pretty solid technology to me.

With Blu-Ray and HD-DVD though, I think Blu-Ray is a better technology. It is a fact that Blu-Ray disks can hold more data than HD-DVD disks can.

Blu-Ray triumphing over HD-DVD is a good thing. I like to see the market adopt one standard because it will be something everyone agrees upon, allowing for greater compatibility among disks and devices. In addition, there will be less confusion for consumers.


After my Dreamcast stopped working back in 2001, I exchanged it for a $200 run-of-the-mill DVD player. (The equivalent DVD player now costs about $19.99). If I still had that Dreamcast today, I would play its games or sell it for profit on eBay. It was a great console that was ahead of its time.

That illustrates what happens when you rush and invest in a technology that is at risk from the competition.



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17 Feb 2008, 4:53 am

hyperbolic wrote:
Part of the success of the PS2 and Xbox over the Dreamcast was due to their marketing, not the qualities of the technologies that each uses. Dreamcast seemed like a pretty solid technology to me.

With Blu-Ray and HD-DVD though, I think Blu-Ray is a better technology. It is a fact that Blu-Ray disks can hold more data than HD-DVD disks can.

Blu-Ray triumphing over HD-DVD is a good thing. I like to see the market adopt one standard because it will be something everyone agrees upon, allowing for greater compatibility among disks and devices. In addition, there will be less confusion for consumers.


After my Dreamcast stopped working back in 2001, I exchanged it for a $200 run-of-the-mill DVD player. (The equivalent DVD player now costs about $19.99). If I still had that Dreamcast today, I would play its games or sell it for profit on eBay. It was a great console that was ahead of its time.

That illustrates what happens when you rush and invest in a technology that is at risk from the competition.


I still have my Dreamcast. And it's still plugged into my TV and I play it almost daily. Now that's a classic system.


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17 Feb 2008, 8:44 am

I am glad the format war is coming to an end but I think it wouldve been better for HD-DVD to have won. I dont like how they keep trying to change the maximum capacity but should just stick to enough capacity to show 3 hours of Hi-Def video and nothing more. Stop fighting over how many layers they can add for more GB because that was only good for people who want to burn things which means piracy.

The dreamcast was better than PS2 and came out a couple of years earlier. PS2 + 2 years more development time seemed to offer less.



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17 Feb 2008, 8:56 am

Phew. Seems like the superior technology's won.


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17 Feb 2008, 9:28 am

This works out for me. My mom has a big screen 1080P TV in the great room and we've been looking into Blu-Ray DVDs so we can see just how good the TV's quality can be. Our digital cable company, Comcast, isn't even good enough for our TV! lol



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17 Feb 2008, 9:29 am

hence why i decided not to adopt either... DVD is damn fine for us... 720P from a DVD disk is still damn good... if we go too HD then appreciation of the real world goes to hell...

screw em both!


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17 Feb 2008, 10:40 pm

I predicted blu-ray as soon as I saw the specs for both technologies (and when I realised that Sony was going to build it into the PS3).

I'm not going to change my movies to Blu-Ray though. I did a big jump from VHS to DVD but only so that I could play them in more devices than the VCR without loss of quality.

What excuse do I have for blu-ray? My eyes aren't brilliant, so better resolution is lost on them... I'm quite deaf so better surround sound isn't gonna convince me...

Extras? My time has limits. :D



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17 Feb 2008, 11:04 pm

Well, Betamax was (and is) technologically superior to VHS, but Beta lost that format war.

Why? Price. Matsushita (aka Panasonic and JVC) licensed VHS technology to a bunch of different manufacturers, which encouraged competition and drove VHS VCR prices down. Sony kept Beta mostly proprietary, which meant prices were higher.



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18 Feb 2008, 1:11 am

You're right, Beta did lose on price and it is technically superior.

Blu-Ray is technically superior but there isn't much of a price difference.

Also, in the VHS/BETA days they were a "missing" technology rather than a "replacement" technology.

I believe that DVD was a "missing" technology not a replacement for VHS - since there was no digital method of video storage/replay (except lasterdisc which quite frankly was never consumer-usable technology due to its size).

I'm not sure that Blu-Ray will take off in the same way as DVD.



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18 Feb 2008, 4:26 am

gbollard wrote:
I predicted blu-ray as soon as I saw the specs for both technologies (and when I realised that Sony was going to build it into the PS3).

I'm not going to change my movies to Blu-Ray though. I did a big jump from VHS to DVD but only so that I could play them in more devices than the VCR without loss of quality.

What excuse do I have for blu-ray? My eyes aren't brilliant, so better resolution is lost on them... I'm quite deaf so better surround sound isn't gonna convince me...

Extras? My time has limits. :D


I have no need for blue ray. Nor do my parents. Our vision is sub par. The HDTV is pretty worthless but we needed a bigger screen period. Surround sound. My god we haven't used that stereo in ages!


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18 Feb 2008, 10:28 am

Anubis wrote:
Phew. Seems like the superior technology's won.
Superior technology maybe, but also the stricter DRM :evil:


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18 Feb 2008, 3:29 pm

DRM is just a matter of time... someone will hack it.



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18 Feb 2008, 6:16 pm

I hope that most of you who own a Blu-ray player have it for the PS3 because once new firmwares come out your old blu-ray players will be rendered obsolete.

Sony won, and early adopters for both sides got screwed.