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24 Mar 2008, 7:48 pm

Online petitions never work. People would have better luck if they wrote the governator or some other government person in CA.



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24 Mar 2008, 8:13 pm

Nazi America.

This is the s**t I've been talking about.



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24 Mar 2008, 8:25 pm

That is so wrong. I have no words to express how wrong that is.



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24 Mar 2008, 9:33 pm

That's horrible that Child Protective Services is removing this kid from a good home to forcibly drug him to make him less autistic. From what I've read, removing kids from good homes and abusing them is something Child Protective Services specializes in. The people involved from CPS should be arrested and charged with child abuse. Unfortunately, he is in the US which is no longer a free country so I don't know what we can do about it.



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24 Mar 2008, 10:02 pm

A bit more detail:
Nate's Story

Governor Schwarzenegger's email
Choose Child Protective Services for Subject in dropdown.



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24 Mar 2008, 10:10 pm

foxman wrote:
That is so wrong. I have no words to express how wrong that is.


I have the perfect words to describe this. Police State 8O

This is what they did to political dissidents in the Soviet Union. They would declare them crazy them drag them off to a psychiatric hospital where they would be abused in the name of "treatment".

I hope this poor family can get a good lawyer and sue CPS out the wazoo. This family's constitutional rights have been violated big time. This is the worst nightmare imaginable.


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24 Mar 2008, 10:37 pm

This is extremely sad. This is the way things are moving now. with true socialism the state is in full control of your children and full control of you. this is what happens when people give up liberty and personal responsibility to the government because they would rather have the government care for them
because then it requires much less effort. The only problem is once you give power to the government you have lost the power to exercise that same power yourself. the more rights the government has the less rights you will have and you can be sure once the government gets a little power they will eventually grab more power as more people are duped into believing that having a Big Brother to watch over them and keep them safe from having to make tough personal decisions and freeing them from having to defend themselves.

Once that happens the government now has all the power and the people that gave the government that power have none. and all that liberty they think they had now doesn't exist.

Now everyone that doesn't fit the mold is a potential victim. and why were they targeted? it wasn;t just autisim. it was that the parents were trying to take responsibility for their own child the government wanted to do things their way and they disagreed being able to take responsibility for your own medical treatment particularly for your own children is an area people have given over to the state and so the state feels it must protect what was given to it by making sure it punishes anyone that would dare exercise that power themselves. That's why this poor man is being tortured and probably messed up for life. I will be praying for him and I hope God will allow him the strength and divine protection to get through this in one piece.



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24 Mar 2008, 10:47 pm

zendell wrote:
That's horrible that Child Protective Services is removing this kid from a good home to forcibly drug him to make him less autistic.

What's worse is that the drug they're forcing down his throat give him grand mal seizures :(


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24 Mar 2008, 10:49 pm

Betzalel wrote:
This is extremely sad. This is the way things are moving now. with true socialism the state is in full control of your children and full control of you. this is what happens when people give up liberty and personal responsibility to the government because they would rather have the government care for them
because then it requires much less effort. The only problem is once you give power to the government you have lost the power to exercise that same power yourself. the more rights the government has the less rights you will have and you can be sure once the government gets a little power they will eventually grab more power as more people are duped into believing that having a Big Brother to watch over them and keep them safe from having to make tough personal decisions and freeing them from having to defend themselves.

Once that happens the government now has all the power and the people that gave the government that power have none. and all that liberty they think they had now doesn't exist.

Now everyone that doesn't fit the mold is a potential victim. and why were they targeted? it wasn;t just autisim. it was that the parents were trying to take responsibility for their own child the government wanted to do things their way and they disagreed being able to take responsibility for your own medical treatment particularly for your own children is an area people have given over to the state and so the state feels it must protect what was given to it by making sure it punishes anyone that would dare exercise that power themselves. That's why this poor man is being tortured and probably messed up for life. I will be praying for him and I hope God will allow him the strength and divine protection to get through this in one piece.


Whoa, whoa...socialism? Sorry, this is "Democracy" at it's best. God Bless (The new)America!

Edit: Too vague. America is now a dictatorship of collective thoughts based upon certain opinions, manipulated and controlled through the Democratic-Republic. That means, those douches you vote for are nothing but ambitious puppets, and don't give a damn about you.


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24 Mar 2008, 10:54 pm

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Whoa, whoa...socialism? Sorry, this is "Democracy" at it's best. God Bless (The new)America!


You yourself put Democracy in quotes. a nanny state is a Socialist state. a rose by any other name is still a rose. or in this case a rotten filthy piece of offal.



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24 Mar 2008, 11:00 pm

Betzalel wrote:
Bluesummers wrote:
Whoa, whoa...socialism? Sorry, this is "Democracy" at it's best. God Bless (The new)America!


You yourself put Democracy in quotes. a nanny state is a Socialist state. a rose by any other name is still a rose. or in this case a rotten filthy piece of offal.


Eh, you'd have to realize, I view all forms of government as incompetent pieces of s**t. Too many people, who are they kidding?


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25 Mar 2008, 8:21 am

Betzalel wrote:
Bluesummers wrote:
Whoa, whoa...socialism? Sorry, this is "Democracy" at it's best. God Bless (The new)America!


You yourself put Democracy in quotes. a nanny state is a Socialist state. a rose by any other name is still a rose. or in this case a rotten filthy piece of offal.


Wrong. Socialism is an economic concept, which is separate axis from one's attitude towards state power, and both are separate axes from the social-cultural issues axis.


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25 Mar 2008, 11:39 am

what's next? Forced sterilization? Drug induced stupors? I guess it doesnt matter if the medicine is killing him, as long as that damned autism is in check. Child protective services my a@@. Sounds more like the gestappo.



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25 Mar 2008, 3:40 pm

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what's next? Forced sterilization?

That's already been done. According to a Wikipedia article, "over 65,000 individuals were sterilized in 33 states under state compulsory sterilization programs in the United States."

The United States was the first country to enact forced sterilization programs for the purpose of eugenics in 1907 and it increased in other states after the Supreme Court in the case of Buck vs Bell in 1927 ruled that it is constitutional for the government to forcibly sterilize mentally ret*d people against their will. Most sterilizations took place in state-run psychiatric hospitals. The last forcible sterilization occurred in 1981 but since the Supreme Court upheld the constitutionality of it, it could be reintroduced if the government wants to do it again.

From Wikipedia:
"The principal targets of the American program were the mentally ret*d and the mentally ill, but also targeted under many state laws were the deaf, the blind, people with epilepsy, and the physically deformed. Native Americans, as well as Afro-American women , were sterilized against their will in many states, often without their knowledge, while they were in a hospital for other reasons (e.g. childbirth)."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_ste ... ted_States
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buck_v._Bell



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25 Mar 2008, 3:43 pm

Hillary Clinton wrote in her book, "it takes a village to raise a child." This case seems to be an example of the village (government) raising other peoples' children. If you don't like it, then don't vote for socialists/communists.