Obama To Investigate Bush Administration
Today Barak Obama made a campaign promise to investigate the Bush Administration if elected.
Did this just seal a victory for him?
"Two party infighting" would imply that he is going after all republicans, which I dont believe is what got us into the war in the first place. There are a few bad apples and in weeding their activities out, it could change policy enough that such unconstitutional activities are harder for any future elected officials. I think that is money well spent. If it is taking to much resources away from other issues(red herring) then I am against it but if it is in addition to dealing with economic issues and getting us out of Iraq, I think it would be a good investment.
I still think I know more about Obama's great oratory skills then I do about his specific policies. Yes, he has a silver tongue but I want more specifics. I may not agree with Hillary but at least she talks about her specific intentions,(Weither they are practicle, or realistic is another matter all together).
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Obama "...then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."
READ THIS
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/? ... IzMGM2ZTE=
here's a snippet of the piece:
". “They”. This evokes Michelle’s similar “they” (as in the “they” who raised the proverbial bar on the Obamas), and likewise suggests both hostility and a certain us/they contempt for a slice of America that the Obamas apparently know very little about—but for the first time in their lives are rapidly discovering.
3. “They cling to guns or religion”. This is revealing for two reasons: one, Obama has been trying to finesse his position on guns to appeal precisely to gun owners and thus we start to see that his repositioning is cynical to the core; two, “cling to religion?” No rural Pennsylvanian clings to religion more than Obama himself, who for 20 years sat silent in the pews, while a hate-spewing minister damned his country and most everyone else. The question is not why Pennsylvanians “cling to their religion”, but why do the Obamas still cling to the Trinity Church that seems far more extreme than anything I’ve seen in rural America.
4. “antipathy to people who aren't like them”—as in the case of Rev. Wright’s views of Jews, whites, Italians, or Americans in general? In short, Obama accuses rural Pennsylvanians of a racism that they haven’t expressed while contextualizing the racism that his own Rev. Wright has.
5. “Anti-immigrant sentiment”? As in wishing that drivers’ licenses are not issued to those here illegally, or that we insist that those who immigrate to the U.S. do so legally?
6. The worst hypocrisy, of course, is Obama’s charge that these small towns in Pennsylvania express “anti-trade sentiment.” It was not George Bush or John McCain, but Barack Obama himself who tried to salvage Ohio by demagoguing NAFTA and opposing a free-trade agreement with Columbia. His entire campaign is predicated on showing more anti-trade sentiment that the Clintons.
7. Let me get this straight: Obama goes to the Bay Area to an affluent liberal enclave to give a condescending take on the supposed poor fools that he is currently trying to court. This is not just hypocritical, but abjectly stupid. All of Pennsylvania surely is asking today what is so hip and sophisticated about the Trinity Church and Rev. Wright?
So here we have the essential Obama, a walking paradox between the postmodern hip-Ivy-Leaguer who sneers at middle-class America’s supposed prejudices and parochialism, while at the same time courting an anti-Enlightenment, prejudicial demagogue like Jeremiah Wright. For free trade or anti-free trade? For 2nd-amendment rights or not? Post-religious or pious and fundamentalist? For public campaign financing or not? A uniter of various groups or someone who sees America in terms of “they”? Straight-talking or someone who evokes "context" to explain away the inexplicable?
Again, we will see more and more of these condescending statements of the Michelle Obama strain, more and more of Revs. Wright, Meeks, Lee and others peddlers of division like them, and more and more clues to a long hostility to Israel—in what will eventually become the most disastrous chapter in recent Democratic history."
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One of his primary goals is getting us out of Iraq, and he has even set up a tenative timetable for this to happen once he takes office, if elected.
While change needs to occur, and I have no doubt Obama will work toward that change, the Bush administration does need to be investigated. His reign of terror has been more like a dictatorship than a presidency, and this cannot, for the sake of our country, be allowed to happen again. I say there should be more checks in place to prevent such abuses of power. Bush should be investigated regardless of who takes office. He manipulated an entire country and led thousands of OUR MEN to DEATH because of his lies.
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Sorry, but I lived in small town PA and everything he said was pretty damn accurate. Tell me people in PA aren't bitter, and I'll show you people in my own family who are. I don't see how ANYTHING Obama said qualifies as "racism". People are way too uptight in this country. What he said is being manipulated and twisted into something it isn't.
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SOMEONE should investigate the Bush administration .... i don't care who it is (as long as they are independent ..we made that mistake in england)
.... otherwise some other idiot may get into power in the future and also be responsible for thousands of deaths, misery and suffering across the world.
These people need to know that they can not lie and cheat ...and get away with it.
Otherwise we just allow them to make a mockery of the systems we believe in (or are supposed to believe in)
.... and in this 'war of terror' aren't we supposed to be fighting for these very systems and values?!
.... or are we past that now .. and it is accepted that criminality is a valid option for gettin' what you want.
(..yeeehaa)
I hope that George W. Bush and his big business buddies pay back all the money they have 'acquired'
.... perhaps they should start by compensating all the people they've 'robbed'
Everybody who hears language filters it through their own biases and precpnceptions. I am a liberal in most areas (except immigration policy) but at least I know I have biases and can some times catch myself misinturpreting someone.
When I heard his statement I thought he was trying to say...."Be forwarned...I may not do very well in States like Pensylvania because they are not going to like my anti-gun or pro immigration policies. They are more likely to think my policies on gay marriage and abortion are not in line with their religious beliefs. They are struggeling financially and believe that it is cause by trade inbalance and illegal aliens forcing wages down.So it may look like I don't have a chance of beating someone like Macain,when I lose in those more conservative states but give me your money anyway because they don't represent the majority of voters who are more open-minded about my policies."
Talk about reading a lot into something,lol. But that is how I "heard" what he was saying.
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The problem with mosst of the "investigation commities" to date is that No one is held accountable. Maybe they lseo their job but they are rich and just take the show on the road or write a book. No one ever give the money back, (what money they say.....I'm broke). They seldom do jail time. How is this going to discourage the behavior? There is a lot of incentive to do the crime and some times they can even get a "Metal of Freedom" out of it.
The only positive out come would be changing policy and law to disallow future acts of constitutional blasphemy. As far as someone being punished...unlikely.
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READ THIS
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/? ... IzMGM2ZTE=
here's a snippet of the piece:
". “They”. This evokes Michelle’s similar “they” (as in the “they” who raised the proverbial bar on the Obamas), and likewise suggests both hostility and a certain us/they contempt for a slice of America that the Obamas apparently know very little about—but for the first time in their lives are rapidly discovering.
3. “They cling to guns or religion”. This is revealing for two reasons: one, Obama has been trying to finesse his position on guns to appeal precisely to gun owners and thus we start to see that his repositioning is cynical to the core; two, “cling to religion?” No rural Pennsylvanian clings to religion more than Obama himself, who for 20 years sat silent in the pews, while a hate-spewing minister damned his country and most everyone else. The question is not why Pennsylvanians “cling to their religion”, but why do the Obamas still cling to the Trinity Church that seems far more extreme than anything I’ve seen in rural America.
4. “antipathy to people who aren't like them”—as in the case of Rev. Wright’s views of Jews, whites, Italians, or Americans in general? In short, Obama accuses rural Pennsylvanians of a racism that they haven’t expressed while contextualizing the racism that his own Rev. Wright has.
5. “Anti-immigrant sentiment”? As in wishing that drivers’ licenses are not issued to those here illegally, or that we insist that those who immigrate to the U.S. do so legally?
6. The worst hypocrisy, of course, is Obama’s charge that these small towns in Pennsylvania express “anti-trade sentiment.” It was not George Bush or John McCain, but Barack Obama himself who tried to salvage Ohio by demagoguing NAFTA and opposing a free-trade agreement with Columbia. His entire campaign is predicated on showing more anti-trade sentiment that the Clintons.
7. Let me get this straight: Obama goes to the Bay Area to an affluent liberal enclave to give a condescending take on the supposed poor fools that he is currently trying to court. This is not just hypocritical, but abjectly stupid. All of Pennsylvania surely is asking today what is so hip and sophisticated about the Trinity Church and Rev. Wright?
So here we have the essential Obama, a walking paradox between the postmodern hip-Ivy-Leaguer who sneers at middle-class America’s supposed prejudices and parochialism, while at the same time courting an anti-Enlightenment, prejudicial demagogue like Jeremiah Wright. For free trade or anti-free trade? For 2nd-amendment rights or not? Post-religious or pious and fundamentalist? For public campaign financing or not? A uniter of various groups or someone who sees America in terms of “they”? Straight-talking or someone who evokes "context" to explain away the inexplicable?
Again, we will see more and more of these condescending statements of the Michelle Obama strain, more and more of Revs. Wright, Meeks, Lee and others peddlers of division like them, and more and more clues to a long hostility to Israel—in what will eventually become the most disastrous chapter in recent Democratic history."
I take it your refering to Obama's Pastor's hateful and even racist speech?
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I like how people don't like how politicians lie, but then they get mad at the one who is not afriad to tell the truth.
