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11 May 2008, 7:45 pm

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The anti-vaccination movement has been steadily growing in the United States, UK, Australia, and Canada. Unfortunately, the proponents of this movement seem to hold a great deal of sway with conservative Christians and homeschoolers. This is truly unfortunate, because the anti-vaccination movement is full of lies, misrepresentations, and half-truths. I have personally read several books written by members of the anti-vaccination movement, and I have also listened to several anti-vaccination advocates on the radio. I am constantly surprised at the lack of scientific understanding that these "experts" demonstrate, and I am shocked at the misrepresentations that they foist on an unsuspecting audience. In my opinion, the sway that the anti-vaccination movement holds in Christian and homeschooling circles is simply a demonstration of what we have already been shown by the Y2K nonsense which held similar sway: some Christians and some homeschoolers still have a LOT of work to do when it comes to learning critical thinking skills!

Although I could write hundreds of lines about the lies, misrepresentations, and half-truths spread by the anti-vaccination movement, I choose to let others do it for me. Here are some links that you can follow to learn the TRUTH about vaccinations. If you have been swayed by the lies of the anti-vaccination movement, here is the first site you should visit. It is called QUACKWATCH, and it is run by a retired psychiatrist (all psychiatrists are trained medical doctors, by the way) who tries to combat all manner of health-related scams. The anti-vaccination movement is just one scam against which he fights.


http://www.apologia.com/vaccines_old.html

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I decided to update this page from its previous form because I think it is important to compile the data regarding vaccines into one large resource, rather than several individual ones. If you are really interested in learning the facts regarding the vaccination issue, please follow the links provided below. Please understand, however, that you must have the courage to actually face the truth. If you have been deceived by the lies of the anti-vaccination movement, you might be upset by what you read. I do pray that you have the fortitude to proceed, however, as your children's lives might depend on it. Make no mistake, the facts are crystal clear: children and adults die or are permanently injured because of the lies of the anti-vaccination movement. If you care about your children and your loved ones, you will carefully investigate this issue.

Before I present you with links that lead you to the truth regarding vaccines, I want you to know a bit about why I take such a strong stance on this subject. Firstly, I am not, in any way, associated with any pharmaceutical company. My wife worked for a company many years ago which does have a pharmaceutical division, but it does not produce any vaccines. She also did not work for the pharmaceutical division. She worked in the division that produced research-grade reagents for biomedical research. She also quit that job in 1997 to run the business end of our ministry.

Secondly, I am not tied to the "mainstream" view on any scientific issue. I am not only a creationist, but I am a young earth creationist. I also consider global warming to be the scientific hoax of the century; the ozone layer problem to be blown way out of proportion; the CFC ban to be misguided and bad for humanity; and the "save the rainforest" movement to be well-meaning but deluded. Obviously, then, I do not simply toe the "mainstream" line. I hold all of these positions for the same reasons I hold my vaccination position: My faith and the facts clearly point to the truth of those positions.

I was first introduced to the anti-vaccination movement by a biology student. I discuss how vaccines work in my biology course, and the student was one who had been deceived by the lies of the anti-vaccination movement. At the time, however, I knew nothing about the movement, so I was eager to look into the matter. After all, I could imagine that the "mainstream" scientific view of vaccines was wrong. Certainly a lot of "mainstream" ideas are wrong (evolution, global warming, etc.), so I was ready to believe that the "mainstream" view of vaccinations was wrong. Thus, I read the references that the student gave me (a few websites and Neil Miller's book, Vaccines: Are They Really Safe And Effective?).

As I investigated this side of the vaccine issue, however, I became very disappointed. The materials she gave me demonstrated mostly the ignorance and deceit of the authors. Most of those in the anti-vaccination movement have little idea of how the human body or modern medical science works. Also, when they did reference the medical literature on the issue, they often lied about what it said .

Because well-meaning Christians have been fooled by the lies of the anti-vaccination movement, and because children and adults suffer and die when the anti-vaccination propagandists get their way, I consider it very important to educate those who have been fooled. Please investigate the links below. If you have been fooled by the anti-vaccination propagandists, you will be very surprised at what you read!


http://www.apologia.com/vaccines.htm



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11 May 2008, 7:57 pm

Wow, the two of us are in complete agreement on a scientific matter. I commend you for seeking to dispel these myths, iamnotaparakeet.


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11 May 2008, 8:56 pm

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Wow, the two of us are in complete agreement on a scientific matter. I commend you for seeking to dispel these myths, iamnotaparakeet.


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11 May 2008, 8:59 pm

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Wow, the two of us are in complete agreement on a scientific matter. I commend you for seeking to dispel these myths, iamnotaparakeet.


Appelles nomenem meum sicut Filius Furni.
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So Latin is your latest Aspie obsession? I haven't gotten around to learning much Latin, just a few random words picked up here and there.


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11 May 2008, 9:04 pm

Ah, I think I understand your sig at least. "I am not a parakeet, but my friends are parakeets?" While your custom rank would mean "I am a friend of parakeets."


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11 May 2008, 9:57 pm

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Ah, I think I understand your sig at least. "I am not a parakeet, but my friends are parakeets?" While your custom rank would mean "I am a friend of parakeets."


Psittacus is the generic word for a parrot actually, but it is as close as I could come. I no longer have parakeets, only cockatiels now. Same order though.



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11 May 2008, 9:59 pm

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Ah, I think I understand your sig at least. "I am not a parakeet, but my friends are parakeets?" While your custom rank would mean "I am a friend of parakeets."


Psittacus is the generic word for a parrot actually, but it is as close as I could come. I no longer have parakeets, only cockatiels now. Same order though.

Well I was close. I just kinda inferred the meaning of psittacus based on context and what I know about you. My reading comprehension is semi-decent in a couple languages, but I can only actively communicate in this one, for now at least.


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11 May 2008, 10:19 pm

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Ah, I think I understand your sig at least. "I am not a parakeet, but my friends are parakeets?" While your custom rank would mean "I am a friend of parakeets."


Psittacus is the generic word for a parrot actually, but it is as close as I could come. I no longer have parakeets, only cockatiels now. Same order though.

Well I was close. I just kinda inferred the meaning of psittacus based on context and what I know about you. My reading comprehension is semi-decent in a couple languages, but I can only actively communicate in this one, for now at least.


English is an interesting language with an interesting developmental history, but its phonetic complexity and requisite of word order for meaning makes it suck compared to Romance languages. Go inflected linguas!



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11 May 2008, 10:29 pm

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English is an interesting language with an interesting developmental history, but its phonetic complexity and requisite of word order for meaning makes it suck compared to Romance languages. Go inflected linguas!

Here I disagree. I can not bear the sound of French. It is horrible, painful to my ears. Latin, on the other hand, is amazing. Latin I can deal with. Its cheap knock-offs, no. Italian maybe.


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11 May 2008, 10:36 pm

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English is an interesting language with an interesting developmental history, but its phonetic complexity and requisite of word order for meaning makes it suck compared to Romance languages. Go inflected linguas!

Here I disagree. I can not bear the sound of French. It is horrible, painful to my ears. Latin, on the other hand, is amazing. Latin I can deal with. Its cheap knock-offs, no. Italian maybe.


Y la lingua de Espana?



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11 May 2008, 10:39 pm

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English is an interesting language with an interesting developmental history, but its phonetic complexity and requisite of word order for meaning makes it suck compared to Romance languages. Go inflected linguas!

Here I disagree. I can not bear the sound of French. It is horrible, painful to my ears. Latin, on the other hand, is amazing. Latin I can deal with. Its cheap knock-offs, no. Italian maybe.


Y la lingua de Espana?

I consider it to be inferior to English, but not as grating as French. Spanish can be pretty cool, but it often seems clumsy in expression. Not so much as in French, but there is a lot of using polylogisms when one word would suffice to express it in English. Combine that with the smaller vocabulary in Spanish, and it has a more limited range of expression.


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11 May 2008, 10:52 pm

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using polylogisms when one word would suffice to express it in English...


An interesting one would be demonstrated in Revelation 1:10

I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,
KJV

Yo fuí en el Espíritu en el día del Señor, y oí detrás de mí una gran voz como de trompeta,
SRV

Día del Señor = day of the Lord (as in THE day of the Lord) whereas the KJV has "Lord's day"

But also see:

fui in spiritu in dominica die et audivi post me vocem magnam tamquam tubae
Vulgate

I came to be in the Spirit on the Day of the Lord, when I heard a loud voice behind me like a trumpet,
ISV

Where the ISV translated κυριακη2960 A-DSF ημερα2250 N-DSF as "Day of the Lord" the Vulgate uses "dominica die" which "Dominica" is semantic with Sunday.



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27 May 2008, 2:07 am

The author fails to note *why* vaccines are unpopular among homeschooling Christians: chickenpox, flu vaccine, Hep-B (then there's the question of why a Christian would vaccinate against STDs), Rubella and some brands of other vaccines are derived from fetal tissue research.

Now, that's different from being opposed to *all* vaccinations. The problem is that most people-doctors included--can't understand such nuances. Many of us are desperately trying to get the ethical alternatives either put back into production or allowed into the US, as the case may be.

Several of the "myths" listed on that site are not so much "myths" as ethical considerations. In 2005, the Pontifical Academy for Life finally issued a statement on the subject, saying that there is no moral obligation to prevent disease, and, unless a) it's an epidemic, b) the individual is highly susceptible, or c) the government or doctor forces the issue (thus removing the patient/parents from culpability), one must abstain from using ethically tainted vaccines.

Now, it is also worth noting that the U.S. is one of the few nations that does *not* have ethical alternatives available for the above diseaess. The US pharmaceutical industry, and the FDA, are all based upon profiting through patents. Big Pharma prefers ethically questionable research because playing Frankenstein generates lots of research grant money and gives the Pharma companies "new discoveries" that they can patent.
In Japan, they developed a perfectly good Rubella vaccine by swabbing infected kids' throats. In the US, they ordered women who were exposed to Rubella in the 1960s epidemic to have abortions.

As for saying that homeschoolers are lacking in critical thinking skills, that's far from the case. Usually, it's just the opposite. As the author himself notes, most homeschoolers have just come to distrust the Establishment, period.

I can't speak for Evangelicals, but from the Catholic perspective, it has to do with application of a variety of ethical and philosophical principles. For example, Catholic teaching favors "integrity of the body." Similarly, Catholics take the philosophical principles that underly the use of Natural Family Planning and then apply them to other medical decisions: i.e., if there's a way to achieve a particular goal that does not involve invasive procedures, alteration of the body, and/or medication, go with that. Conservative Catholics therefore tend to not just practice NFP, but also natural childbirth and then breastfeeding. They tend to favor preventative medicine through nutrition. When disease comes, they try home remedies before going to the doctor.

When they go to the doctor, their physicians try to force them into using artificial birth control, and mock them for their beliefs. When the vaccine issue comes up, something similar happens, so they feel the need to build extreme arguments to try and persuade their physicians.



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Hep-B (then there's the question of why a Christian would vaccinate against STDs)

Well, you don't necessarily have to have sex to contract Hep-B. I got that shot because I'll be going to medical school, and as such at a heightened risk for exposure. There are other reasons for people to get that shot even if they don't intend to have promiscuous sex, there are plenty of other opportunities to contract that illness and you really don't want to.


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The author fails to note *why* vaccines are unpopular among homeschooling Christians: chickenpox, flu vaccine, Hep-B (then there's the question of why a Christian would vaccinate against STDs), Rubella and some brands of other vaccines are derived from fetal tissue research.

Now, that's different from being opposed to *all* vaccinations. The problem is that most people-doctors included--can't understand such nuances. Many of us are desperately trying to get the ethical alternatives either put back into production or allowed into the US, as the case may be.

Several of the "myths" listed on that site are not so much "myths" as ethical considerations. In 2005, the Pontifical Academy for Life finally issued a statement on the subject, saying that there is no moral obligation to prevent disease, and, unless a) it's an epidemic, b) the individual is highly susceptible, or c) the government or doctor forces the issue (thus removing the patient/parents from culpability), one must abstain from using ethically tainted vaccines.

Now, it is also worth noting that the U.S. is one of the few nations that does *not* have ethical alternatives available for the above diseaess. The US pharmaceutical industry, and the FDA, are all based upon profiting through patents. Big Pharma prefers ethically questionable research because playing Frankenstein generates lots of research grant money and gives the Pharma companies "new discoveries" that they can patent.
In Japan, they developed a perfectly good Rubella vaccine by swabbing infected kids' throats. In the US, they ordered women who were exposed to Rubella in the 1960s epidemic to have abortions.

As for saying that homeschoolers are lacking in critical thinking skills, that's far from the case. Usually, it's just the opposite. As the author himself notes, most homeschoolers have just come to distrust the Establishment, period.

I can't speak for Evangelicals, but from the Catholic perspective, it has to do with application of a variety of ethical and philosophical principles. For example, Catholic teaching favors "integrity of the body." Similarly, Catholics take the philosophical principles that underly the use of Natural Family Planning and then apply them to other medical decisions: i.e., if there's a way to achieve a particular goal that does not involve invasive procedures, alteration of the body, and/or medication, go with that. Conservative Catholics therefore tend to not just practice NFP, but also natural childbirth and then breastfeeding. They tend to favor preventative medicine through nutrition. When disease comes, they try home remedies before going to the doctor.

When they go to the doctor, their physicians try to force them into using artificial birth control, and mock them for their beliefs. When the vaccine issue comes up, something similar happens, so they feel the need to build extreme arguments to try and persuade their physicians.

I'm a Christian and I think you're full of crap.


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28 May 2008, 3:27 pm

"There are other reasons for people to get that shot even if they don't intend to have promiscuous sex, there are plenty of other opportunities to contract that illness and you really don't want to."
And I would agree that a medical professional would definitely be an exception, as are restaurant workers, both because of risks of exposure and the risks of passing disease on to others.

However, none of the reasons that one can contract Hep-B apply to infants.

It's a principle called "remote material cooperation," which is usually explained this way: a restaurant is owned by the Mafia. The restaurant itself is a fairly legitimate business, but, by supporting it, you're going to be supporting the Mafia.

a) If the person doesn't know the restaurant is owned by the Mafia, obviously she doesn't have any culpability for shopping there. No guilt
b) If a person *knows* the restaurant is owned by the Mafia, and shops there for that reason, obviously the person is actively trying to suppot the Mafia. Mortal sin

Between these two extremes are a variety of situations that depend upon the circumstances and the intentions of the person.

For example, it's the only restaurant in town. The person could eat at home, of course, or go to the grocery store, but is about to pass out from low blood sugar--it's OK to eat there.
But if there's another restaurant in town, which is not owned by the Mob, then the person is morally obliged to eat at the othe restaurant.
OR the person could choose to fast, enduring the fatigue and stomach pain until he or she gets home. This would be what the Church calls "heroic virtue" (what gets a person canonized).

The most important point is that there are alternatives available in other countries for most of the vaccines in question, but the FDA won't let them in.