Bratz dolls to be banned after holidays

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Chibi_Neko
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04 Dec 2008, 11:26 am

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LOS ANGELES (AP) -- The rowdy Bratz dolls have been evicted. Barbie has regained control of the dollhouse.

Toy giant Mattel Inc., after a four-year legal dispute with MGA Entertainment Inc., touted its win in the case Wednesday after a federal judge banned MGA from making and selling its pouty-lipped and hugely popular Bratz dolls.

"It's a pretty sweeping victory," Mattel attorney Michael Zeller said. "They have no right to use Bratz for any goods or services at all."

U.S. District Judge Stephen Larson rocked the toy industry with his order that MGA must immediately stop manufacturing Bratz. He allowed MGA to wait until the holiday season ends to remove the toys from store shelves.

The decision was a stunning defeat for MGA, which exploded onto the tween scene in 2001 with the edgy dolls and made hundreds of millions in profits, giving Mattel's more classic doll-diva Barbie a run for her money.

MGA planned to immediately appeal the judge's injunction, Chief Executive Isaac Larian said in a written statement late Wednesday.

Larian said the company also intended to ask that the order be stayed until the appeals process is over, so that "we can maintain the over 1,500 people that MGA employs, and continue to give our consumers a product they desire."

The ruling, issued in federal court in Riverside, followed a jury's finding that Bratz designer Carter Bryant developed the concept for the dolls while working for Mattel.

The same jury later awarded Mattel $10 million for copyright infringement and $90 million for breach of contract after a lengthy trial stemming from Mattel's 2004 lawsuit ended in August.

Mattel has fought to neutralize the Bratz line for years. The dolls -- with their huge lips, pug noses, almond-shaped eyes and coquettish figures -- were an instant hit with young girls. MGA had taken Bryant's original four dolls and spun out a line of more than 40 characters, complete with accessories and related toys such as Bratz Boyz, Bratz Petz and Baby Bratz.

El Segundo-based Mattel has seen sales of Barbie -- once a rite of passage for American girls -- slide since the doe-eyed Bratz dolls first came on the scene. Domestic sales of Barbie were down 15% in 2007.

Both sides had a lot riding on the judge's decision and had worried about the impact of any ruling during the holiday shopping season.

The judge's injunction named all 40 dolls in the Bratz line, including the four originals -- Yasmine, Chloe, Sasha and Jade. Larson also ordered MGA to reimburse its vendors and distributors for the cost of the dolls and all shipping charges for sending them back.

During trial, Mattel attorneys said MGA made nearly $778 million on the Bratz line since it was introduced seven years ago, and company Chief Executive Isaac Larian made $696 million through June -- but MGA insisted the profits were much less.

The post-trial dispute that prompted Wednesday's ruling centered on whether the jury found that only the first generation of four Bratz dolls infringed on Mattel's (MAT, Fortune 500) copyright or whether all the dolls in the line are in violation.

The jury verdict form only asked panelists to find whether there was infringement and assign a dollar reward, but did not ask them to specify which dolls among the dozens MGA made violated the law.

Los Angeles-based MGA, which no longer makes the first-generation dolls, argued that the later toys in the Bratz line don't violate the copyright and it could continue to sell them.

MGA attorney Raoul Kennedy argued that Larson had the discretion to determine which dolls violated Mattel's copyright. Mattel's attorneys disagreed, saying the court does not have the authority to interpret the jury's findings after the fact.


All I can say is......
YES YES!! !! YESSSSSSSSSS!


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04 Dec 2008, 11:36 am

It's all about market share and protectionism. Mattel doesn't want the competition. Nor do they want to end up like the American automobile, garment, steel, and textile industries. So they made it illegal for their competition to make an honest profit.

Too bad - justice demands an open and free market.

I'll wait for the appeal.


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04 Dec 2008, 12:03 pm

Good. Kids are bratty enough these days.


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04 Dec 2008, 12:51 pm

Aw man I liked Bratz except I didn't play with them. They're just toys.



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04 Dec 2008, 1:02 pm

I thought they'd be banned for being a negative influence on young girls, not for infringing on copyright...



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04 Dec 2008, 1:06 pm

You mean those little hooker dolls that try to convince 11 year old girls that running around in a g-string, half a shirt and skirts barely more than a belt is a good idea? Those dolls that suggest to these girls that whoring up is the best way to get ahead?
About damn time they were gone, even if it's only for the constant corporate territorial barking.


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04 Dec 2008, 1:06 pm

IdahoRose wrote:
I thought they'd be banned for being a negative influence on young girls, not for infringing on copyright...

You can't legislate morality, but you sure can hire a good lawyer to prove just about anything else in civil court!


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04 Dec 2008, 1:45 pm

Yay!! ! I'm tired of arguing with my daughter, because I won't let her have any of those stupid dolls, or the merchandise. Isn't everything that those dolls are, and represent the exact opposite of how a parent would want their daughter to turn out to be????



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04 Dec 2008, 2:05 pm

I just never liked them because they look like a bunch of evil aliens! :roll:



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04 Dec 2008, 2:29 pm

I don't like Bratz dolls, thank God my daughter doesn't either (she's just going to break the bank with American Girl), but this ruling seems far too sweeping to me. I honestly don't think it's right from a legal standpoint, as much as I will enjoy it as a parent.


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04 Dec 2008, 2:57 pm

Overall there is one thing to be learned... Your thoughts are not your own, especially not when you belong to a corporate giant.

STOP THINKING.. they own you until you leave.


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04 Dec 2008, 3:12 pm

Fnord wrote:
It's all about market share and protectionism. Mattel doesn't want the competition. Nor do they want to end up like the American automobile, garment, steel, and textile industries. So they made it illegal for their competition to make an honest profit.
Too bad - justice demands an open and free market.
I'll wait for the appeal.


Precisely.

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You can't legislate morality...


Isn't that what Prop 8 was all about?
Not trying to start nuthin', jus' sayin'...
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04 Dec 2008, 3:31 pm

Prop 8 was just stupid, banning Bratz makes sense.

I get what you are saying though.


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04 Dec 2008, 4:11 pm

NocturnalQuilter wrote:
Fnord wrote:
You can't legislate morality...


Isn't that what Prop 8 was all about?
Not trying to start nuthin', jus' sayin'...
8)

California's Proposition 8 was passed by voter referendum, and not by legislative action. It's passage was inevitable. This door's closed shut now. It happened, whether you like it or not.

Nowhere in the following official text published by the State of California is there any mention of the word "Morality" or any implication that Proposition 8 address what some might call a moral issue.

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PROPOSITION 8

This initiative measure is submitted to the people in accordance with the provisions of Article II, Section 8, of the California Constitution.

This initiative measure expressly amends the California Constitution by adding a section thereto; therefore, new provisions proposed to be added are printed in italic type to indicate that they are new.

SECTION 1. Title

This measure shall be known and may be cited as the “California Marriage Protection Act.”

SECTION 2. Section 7.5 is added to Article I of the California Constitution, to read:

SEC. 7.5. Only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California.

There is a now a deep hole in the ground that used to be a grease spot formerly occupied by a horse that was beaten to death by the howling mobs of Proposition 8 opponents as they tried to get some more mileage out of its cold and bloody corpse.

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04 Dec 2008, 8:50 pm

While I dislike them because they are essentially ultra-slutified barbies I think copyright concerns are the best reason for them to be banned. I do not believe in censorship, and would certainly not want any controversial ideas I support to face legal reaction.


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04 Dec 2008, 8:52 pm

I'm so glad. Those dolls are terrible. They are absolutely disgusting.