Facebook bans breastfeeding pictures.

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03 Jan 2009, 2:29 pm

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Web-savvy moms who breastfeed are irate that social networking sites like Facebook and MySpace restrict photos of nursing babies. The disputes reveal how the sites' community policing techniques sometimes struggle to keep up with the booming number and diversity of their members.

Facebook began as a site just for college kids, but now it is an online home for 140 million people from all over the world. Among the new faces of Facebook are women like Kelli Roman, 23, who last year posted a photo of herself nursing one of her two children.

One day, she logged on to find the photo missing. When she pressed Facebook for an explanation, she got form emails in return.

Facebook bars people from uploading anything "obscene, pornographic or sexually explicit" — a policy that translates into a ban on pictures depicting certain amounts of exposed flesh.

Roman responded by starting a Facebook group called "Hey, Facebook, breastfeeding is not obscene!"

"There is nothing about bottle-feeding a child that has to be discreet," said Roman, who lives in Fallbrook, Calif., in an interview. "With breastfeeding, it should be the exact same way."

Ottawa mom organized 'virtual nurse-in'
Today the group — part petition, part message board, part photo-sharing hub — has more than 97,600 members.

One of them, Stephanie Muir of Ottawa, was new to Facebook when she stumbled across the group last year. Muir, a mother of five, does volunteer work related to public health and breastfeeding and said the issue is important to her.

"I think it's time we all get over this notion that women's breasts are dangerous and harmful for children to see," she said. So she organized a Facebook protest last weekend against the site's policies, which she believes are arbitrarily enforced and discriminate against women.

Muir said more than 11,000 people participated in the group's "virtual nurse-in" by swapping out their regular profile pictures on Facebook and uploading ones depicting breast-feeding.

At Facebook's headquarters in Palo Alto, Calif., 23-year-old mom Heather Farley, who was visiting from her home in Provo, Utah, led a real-world nurse-in to complement the online event. About 10 women showed up to breastfeed their babies outside the front door, drawing attention from local media if not Facebook employees, who were scarce on that Saturday after Christmas.

A member for almost four years, Farley has nearly 400 friends on Facebook, a network she'd be hard-pressed to replicate if she moved to a smaller site with more lenient photo policies. She uses Facebook more than email to stay in touch with far-flung high school and college friends.

She especially likes to check out pictures of their babies and share photos of hers. But with a nine-month-old, "it's almost hard to get a picture of me not nursing," she said.

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This fall, Farley changed her profile photo to one that showed her breastfeeding. Someone probably objected, because Facebook deleted it.

Facebook, like MySpace, generally relies on members to point out when others break the rules.

Facebook spokesman Barry Schnitt said the company's guidelines regarding exposed flesh allow most breastfeeding photos. However, Facebook draws the line at a visible nipple or areola, he said. Facebook also nixes pictures showing the gluteal cleft.

Facebook doesn't generally go looking for nudity, but it does respond quickly when someone on the site flags another person's photo as inappropriate. Schnitt said the policies were instituted years ago, when Facebook was much smaller, but they reflect common practices on mainstream websites.

"We decided nudity was something we didn't want on the site. It doesn't matter the context. We would agree that there are absolutely many contexts for nudity where it is not obscene," Schnitt said, but emphasized that Facebook can't practically convene a panel to decide on a case-by-case basis.

John Palfrey, a Harvard Law School professor who specializes in internet issues, called Facebook a victim of its own success.

"As we wrap more and more of our lives into a single environment on the web, the feeling that civil liberties ought to be protected there continues to grow," Palfrey said.

But it's really just that — a feeling. Online hangouts might simulate a public place, but they're still private websites where the company is king, not the U.S. constitution or the myriad state laws that apply to breastfeeding outside the home.

News Corp.-owned MySpace, which prohibits nudity, also has sparked online protests over photos taken down of breastfeeding mothers. A company spokeswoman did not return messages seeking comment.



This is just sad! Brestfeeding is nature! And when a baby needs to be fed, you feed it, not think about what others are thinking.


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03 Jan 2009, 2:32 pm

I'm breastfeeding my baby as I sit at the computer :).

Breastfeeding is so much healthier for babies... if anything Facebook should ban pictures of bottlefeeding!



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03 Jan 2009, 3:00 pm

Is breast-feeding an acceptable activity in any situation? Must it be?



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03 Jan 2009, 3:16 pm

slowmutant wrote:
Is breast-feeding an acceptable activity in any situation? Must it be?


Well yeah. It is. When the baby is hungry, you gotta feed it.


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03 Jan 2009, 3:21 pm

Chibi_Neko wrote:
slowmutant wrote:
Is breast-feeding an acceptable activity in any situation? Must it be?


Well yeah. It is. When the baby is hungry, you gotta feed it.


Some situations are inappropriate for breast-feeding, just like some situations are inappropriate for scratching oneself or nose-picking.



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03 Jan 2009, 3:32 pm

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Some situations are inappropriate for breast-feeding, just like some situations are inappropriate for scratching oneself or nose-picking.


Scratching oneself or nose-picking don't feed babies. If you are in public and your baby is crying in hunger and you don't have a bottle, what are you gonna do?


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03 Jan 2009, 3:33 pm

But its ok if they show drunk party floozies showing there asses to everyone on FB
Never understood that double standard, some of the most beautiful imagery are of
mother and child.
I joined her FB group and sent out invites, FB has their heads up their asses with this policy



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03 Jan 2009, 3:44 pm

silentbob15 wrote:
Never understood that double standard, some of the most beautiful imagery are of mother and child.


YES! :D

Image

But weaning mothers, beware of perverts!



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03 Jan 2009, 3:45 pm

slowmutant wrote:
Some situations are inappropriate for breast-feeding

Hmmm, I wonder if you can succesfully explain that to a hungry baby.


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03 Jan 2009, 3:57 pm

As beautiful & life-affirming as breast-feeding is, every child must one day learn to take the bottle ...



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03 Jan 2009, 4:03 pm

Try telling that to the babies of long ago. The breast was all they had before they where able to eat solid foods.

The bottle was invented as a convenience to on the go moms, nothing can ever replace the breast.


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03 Jan 2009, 4:09 pm

Chibi_Neko wrote:
Try telling that to the babies of long ago. The breast was all they had before they where able to eat solid foods.

The bottle was invented as a convenience to on the go moms, nothing can ever replace the breast.


Indeed, nothing can replace the breast. It is both decorate and functional, lots of fun for grown men and babies. :lol: :wink:



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03 Jan 2009, 4:10 pm

But exactly when should a child be weaned off the breast? Seriously.



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03 Jan 2009, 4:34 pm

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But exactly when should a child be weaned off the breast? Seriously.

Not sure, at the age of 2, I guess

Interesting clip about the age thing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxv6R9fUO74


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03 Jan 2009, 4:34 pm

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But exactly when should a child be weaned off the breast? Seriously.


kids lose the 'sucking' thing and are self weaned. If you see children sucking a "binky" ( or a nipple with no bottle) or their thumbs or what not, they are still too young to be weaned. When they lose the sucking need and stop, then they self wean.

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03 Jan 2009, 7:56 pm

Neither of my children ever used a bottle, they both weaned naturally on their own one wanted food at three and the other at two and a half, , neither sucked fingers or thumbs or blankets ever. this culture is seriously sick how it sexualizes everything.