I know, I know. It's the Daily Mail, but still....

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15 Jan 2009, 1:12 am

It's not even HER kid for crying out loud...

and she somehow "knows" how horrible it's going to be? Second sentence, "my friend's two year old" yeah. Granted, the kid sounds pretty low functioning, but it seems weird for her to write this article when it's not even her kid.

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I added that to the list I was already mentally composing: no eye contact, ever. Not even with his mum. No shred of attachment to toys, pets, people. Obsessive, repetitive behaviour. Crazed by the sight of other children. Hmm.


I think maybe we need to hear from a real medical expert:

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15 Jan 2009, 1:23 am

and the autism came out of nowhere - was it the measles jab? duh. to have an autistic child there has to be an autistic in the bloodline.



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15 Jan 2009, 1:37 am

Why do people still think vaccines cause it? That's been discredited time and again, but I keep hearing "No! Don't vaccinate your kids!"

This can't possibly be completely Jenny McCarthy's fault. It's not like she came up with it completely on her own.



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15 Jan 2009, 3:15 am

The vacine myth is so WEIRD. I mean, it's like saying that...

I should come up with an analogy. But I can't think of anything ridiculous enough to fill the space where I've put the ellipsis.


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15 Jan 2009, 12:28 pm

These people piss me off... they act like they're desperate for their child to be 'normal' and so try to force him into a preconcieved notion of what a child should be... I imagine that they work with him every day, hoping he'll give them some kind of feedback they can recognise, when all the while he's giving them tons of feedback...

here's a clue... if the child screams incessantly, then he's obviously unhappy with the way he's being treated... do they try a different approach? No, they continue doing the same ol tired things that obviously set the kid off, hoping that this time the kid will 'get it' and begin behaving like one of those wonderful disabled kids you see on after-school specials... fictional kids who don't exist, who never existed, who are merely the fantasies of parents desperate to see some sign of 'normalcy' in their children...

To me, the kid sounds perfectly normal, doing exactly what you would expect a kid to do when his parents try to force him to be something he's not...

so let me give them some advice from my 'idiot-savant' brain that might just be the cure their looking for... how about removing all restraint from the kid, observe what he does (from a distance) when he's not being forced to do or be this or that... if the kid goes off by himself and sits and stares at a wall (like I preferred to do at that age) then that's what he's happy doing...

No he won't be a source of love and hugs and affection that they fantasize a child should be to them, but he will be a happy kid exploring his world in his own way without artificial constraint...

They need to realize that this kid will express his wants and needs in ways that other children don't, like expressing frustration by banging his head against a wall, or expressing trepidation by instinctively attacking anyone who comes near whom he perceives might be a threat, be it physical, emotional, or intellectual...

They need to stop trying to teach the kid their language and start trying to learn the kid's language... if they don't, they will be stuck right where thay are now forever, and they'll blame the kid for it.



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15 Jan 2009, 12:37 pm

MizLiz wrote:
Why do people still think vaccines cause it? That's been discredited time and again, but I keep hearing "No! Don't vaccinate your kids!"

This can't possibly be completely Jenny McCarthy's fault. It's not like she came up with it completely on her own.

Because people will believe *anything* when they think they're sticking it to the man.


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15 Jan 2009, 1:33 pm

People were against vaccines even before they thought vaccines caused autism. I've heard them say vaccines make you sterile and whatnot too. People have basically been against vaccines since the concept came out and I just don't get it.

Sure. Whatever. Get polio. :roll:



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15 Jan 2009, 1:37 pm

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here's a clue... if the child screams incessantly, then he's obviously unhappy with the way he's being treated... do they try a different approach? No, they continue doing the same ol tired things that obviously set the kid off, hoping that this time the kid will 'get it' and begin behaving like one of those wonderful disabled kids you see on after-school specials... fictional kids who don't exist, who never existed, who are merely the fantasies of parents desperate to see some sign of 'normalcy' in their children...

That's just it. Screaming/crying is a form of communication (especially for a two year old. Come on. He's TWO. He'd cry if upset even if he were NT). It's not like their kid is in a vegetative state. If their child is crying, then do something different. It requires patience, but it's not as hopeless as this NON-PARENT is making it sound.

That's still what I don't get. Why is she commenting on a kid who isn't hers and saying at the end that it's better if he didn't exist? That's just rude.

To me, the kid sounds perfectly normal, doing exactly what you would expect a kid to do when his parents try to force him to be something he's not...

And if they think that an NT kid would be all cuddly and lovey and huggy, here's some news: NTs can be cold-hearted bastards, like the writer of that article. I'd comment with that, but I doubt they'd publish it.

EDIT: I was looking for the author's e-mail address and found this
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I couldn't find the address, but that distracted me so much I don't think I'll fire her off a pissed off e-mail. I bet she gets them all the time anyway. When I googled her, I found all sorts of horrible stuff.



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15 Jan 2009, 2:09 pm

i know NTs that eat tuna here and there... will they have autistic children? only if they carry the gene.

if i understand that at eighteen and understood it at twelve why are parents still believing everything they hear without even thinking about it?

also, how the f*cking hell can you blame autism for ruining lives, or those afflicted with autism as those that ruin lives? does a child who's born blind ruin their parents lives because they can't see or do the parents ruin the childs life for not adapting their house to fit the child's needs? parents need to understand that abortion isn't the right path to take, and it's not autism that ruins lives but instead thos who ignore it for what it is.


not everyone thinks the same as the b*tch who contributed this article, even though my old dear admits i've given her a lot of stress over the years she still doesn't think i've 'ruined' her life. the woman who spat out this article is probably the type who believes anyone who stands in her way of the 'pefect' life should f*ck off when it's her who should stay the hell away from us.


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