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11 Feb 2009, 9:03 am

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All I can say is his mother should have gotten professional help to deal with the violent outbursts.

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11 Feb 2009, 9:17 am

Always bad news about us... you never hear about Auties curing cancer or something cool.

No wonder NT's run and hide.

That mum ought to have called someone, sure, but a lot of parents think their kids will never hurt them... it's sad.

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11 Feb 2009, 9:19 am

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Bad news sells and bad news plus autistic news really sells.

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11 Feb 2009, 9:28 am

I can find some good news stuff, but they are mostly either about programs for autism or how individuals are able to manage to do well in some way, most of which wouldn't be news worthy without the autism tag involved.

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11 Feb 2009, 9:45 am

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All I can say is his mother should have gotten professional help to deal with the violent outbursts.

You're not bothered by the fact that he beat his mother to death?

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11 Feb 2009, 9:50 am

kip wrote:

Yes, it's sad that he killed his own mother. It's sad that someone is dead and that this person died so violently at the hands of her son. Don't you get it?

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11 Feb 2009, 9:52 am

philosopherBoi wrote:

kip wrote:

Bad news sells and bad news plus autistic news really sells.

You don't really understand what this story is about, do you?

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11 Feb 2009, 10:18 am

Normally it's the "Parent kills autistic kid" we always hear about.

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11 Feb 2009, 10:22 am

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Normally it's the "Parent kills autistic kid" we always hear about.

Does it matter who's killing who? No, it doesn't.

Killing is not good. Murder is not good.

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11 Feb 2009, 10:53 am

slowmutant wrote:

Mage wrote:

Normally it's the "Parent kills autistic kid" we always hear about.

Does it matter who's killing who? No, it doesn't.

Killing is not good. Murder is not good.

Certain points don't make other points invalid.

Let's say you wanted to take on the project of ending all murder. You couldn't clump all situations together as one bad thing. There would be numerous cases and causes in which the small details will matter.

The main focus of the issue tends to be the most obvious part. We know that killing is bad, but it also raises other questions and issues. For example, it's just one more copy in the brains of those following the media of the idea that autistics kill people. So aside from the fact that murder is bad, it's also bad for the population to associate murderers and autistics. This is the kind of thing that creates a stigma from which more negativity can be generated.

Parents of autistic children could take this as a strong message and do what they can to make sure that this type of thing does't happen to them. Approaches on how to do this will vary from family to family, some being productive and others being destructive.

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11 Feb 2009, 12:18 pm

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You couldn't clump all situations together as one bad thing. There would be numerous cases and causes in which the small details will matter.

It's OK to commit murder if you have autism. If you've commited a murder and you happen to have an autism diagnosis, the whole world will look the other way 'cause whoever you killed must have had it coming.

This ^ is what you're driving at, isn't it?

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11 Feb 2009, 12:25 pm

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You couldn't clump all situations together as one bad thing. There would be numerous cases and causes in which the small details will matter.

nope

in my post, you can find the words, "killing is bad" and, "murder is bad". no where will you see anything that suggests otherwise.

in most things that people do, autistic or not, that we label as being bad, there must be a point that person feels that that is the best option for them at the time, whether they are of sound mind or not. for the situation to come to that at all is bad.

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the point that this is making combines how bad impressions lead to further negativity and focusing on what can be done to reduce such bad situations.

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11 Feb 2009, 12:33 pm

What are you suggesting?

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11 Feb 2009, 12:35 pm

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What are you suggesting?

my original idea revolved around the fact that pointing out the main issue shouldn't completely overshadow any other issues that may come up because of it.

generally, i try to be as precise and careful with wording as i can. so if what i have presented isn't understandable for you then, i'm sorry, i did the best i can. unless you have some question about the meaning of something specific that i said, i have no better way to explain it.

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11 Feb 2009, 12:40 pm

So what happens to the kid now? What happens if he does it again? Is it the fault of the victim?

Is it the fault of the victim?

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11 Feb 2009, 12:49 pm

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So what happens to the kid now? What happens if he does it again? Is it the fault of the victim?

Is it the fault of the victim?

Society's system of judgment and blame placing is more complicated than what i understand of it. For what i see, if you are looking to find a source of blame, this is an arbitrary matter, because in all cases, in some way, there's going to be one step back for where the blame should lay. So technically, you can blame the big-bang. So for me, placing blame and finding fault in a single source is not a big focus that i have. My focus generally lies within the idea of people doing what they can while it's possible to make the world around them a better place. Bad things will happen, but maybe we can learn from such bad things. If you can understand what is going wrong then it can help to take better care in the future. This idea is very vague and connot be compared to every situation word for word. It's just a summary of an idea.

The situation becomes more than about this child alone. What about the next kid? What about the next parent?

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