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11 Apr 2009, 11:48 am

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7988399.stm

For a little change, some news about my country, why not? The world doesn't only revolves around the west. :lol:



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11 Apr 2009, 5:35 pm

This happens often when things change a great deal; from Germany, Japan, and South Africa, even over here in the US. People can't agree on the 'true' history.

Then too, you have Syria, Iran, Israel, and who knows who else trying to get their oar in as well.

Things might get better when history is finished (or diminished) with Lebannon. hope things get better over there..



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11 Apr 2009, 8:45 pm

Actually, i love international news...the only kind of news i get are from the West -.- it's really annoying... Wish i knew a little more what goes on in other countries, but then again, being a reporter can be a dangerous job in some parts of the world....

Interesting read. :P



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11 Apr 2009, 10:22 pm

One history is a dangerous thing, better several and read each others versions.

America has an offical history, something like all the inhabitants killed themselves and their childen when they saw how wonderful the illegal immigrants were.

I still want to know who built Baalbek.



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12 Apr 2009, 12:43 am

LePetitPrince wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7988399.stm

For a little change, some news about my country, why not? The world doesn't only revolves around the west. :lol:


What is not so bad, if taken carefully: If the text books would take a highlight on the religious motivated slaughtering in Europe in 16th and 17th century and how Europe overcame this blood-filled period some lessons could be learned too.



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12 Apr 2009, 12:35 pm

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Depending on their religious affiliation, schools can choose books that describe the French as colonialists or liberators and portray the Ottomans as conquerors or as administrators.


See this is way I hate how history is taught in general, this because they shouldn't be portraying the French or Ottomans as anything. They should simply state what they know happened, failing that what may likely have happen and also so archaeological evidence to back that up. It is up to the individual to decide.

And FFS does it really matter if the Ottoman or French were colonisers? It is not like you are talking about modern Turkey or France. Technically they were, as in the controlled colonies. You can’t pretend they were never there or they were invited. Whether is good or bad is debatable. They had different ways of colonising. Part of the Ottomans success was using local hierarchies and cultures to control their empire. Much the Ottoman local governance wasn't done by Ottomans or even necessarily Muslims. However obviously those controlling these areas has some confidence in the empire even if there rest the population didn't. The French did try to give the Druze a puppet between Syria and Lebanon, but arguably they were not as effective as the ottoman at delegating power.

One of the failing of puppet state like Kingdom of Iraq, etc. is they failed to understand the local culture often importing the royally from outside, equally clueless.