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Chibi_Neko
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14 Apr 2009, 10:34 am

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KABUL -- Taliban gunmen used a firing squad to kill a young couple in southern Afghanistan for trying to elope, shooting them with rifles in front of a crowd in a lawless, militant-controlled region, officials said Tuesday.

The woman, Gul Pecha, 19, and the man, Abdul Aziz, 21, were accused by the militants of immoral acts, and a council of conservative clerics decided that the two should be killed, officials in the southwestern province of Nimroz said.

The two had fled their homes and hoped to travel to Iran, but their parents sent villagers to bring them home, said Sadiq Chakhansori, the chief of Nimroz' provincial council. Once back home, the pair was either turned over to the Taliban by their parents or the militants came and took them by force, the officials said, providing slightly varying accounts.

Riflemen in the remote district of Khash Rod shot the man and woman with AK-47s Monday, said Chakhansori.

In remote and dangerous regions of Afghanistan, Taliban fighters operate what are sometimes referred to as shadow governments, where militant leaders serve as government officials and run their own police units and pseudo court systems.

The Afghan government has no access to the remote region where the two were shot, said Jabar Pardeli, the provincial police chief of Nimroz.

The conservative Taliban movement ruled Afghanistan from 1996-2001 and put in place harsh social rules that forbade unmarried men and women to talk or meet in public. Women were not allowed out of their homes without a male relative, and girls couldn't go to school.

Taliban fighters have widened their influence in the past three years and now control many remote districts in Afghanistan where there are not enough American, NATO or Afghan forces to establish a permanent presence.

This is just so sad. How can they say that marriage is immoral?

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14 Apr 2009, 11:41 am

Well, it's good to see that all the money and troops sent to Afghanistan have made a big difference to the lives of the people there.

At least the country has a thriving agriculture, now employing lots of people and enabling them to export their large crops ... of heroin.

Why does the west meddle in countries like this? The results always seem to be a disaster for everyone concerned.

I read earlier today that Pakistan are to allow Sharia law to become the dominant law in parts of their country - due to pressure from the Taliban. So no doubt lots more public killings of innocents.

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14 Apr 2009, 3:16 pm

Chibi_Neko wrote:

This is just so sad. How can they say that marriage is immoral?

I don't think they believe marriage is immoral, marriage is a civic necessity, to keep the tribe alive. They believe passion is immoral, because it might lead people to do something with their sex organs other than procreate, and everyone knows how filthy and disgusting that kind of unforgivable sin is to God! He only made it feel good to see how much temptation we were willing to bear to stay out of that lake of fire.

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14 Apr 2009, 5:21 pm

Sometimes I fret about the loss of life in Afghanistan, but then I see things like this and can't think anything but "go NATO! Drop a Paveway on them for me."

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15 Apr 2009, 8:33 pm

Willard wrote:

Chibi_Neko wrote:

This is just so sad. How can they say that marriage is immoral?

It makes me wonder how many of the true holy men of history were actually aspies. Many of us have absolutely zero concern for the opposite sex, and our only issues with sex is the fact that we have a sex drive. It seems to get in the way of our lives more often than with NTs. We can obsessively focus on a single thing for days on end (meditation?) and often tend to think about Big Questions like those religion tries to answer. These qualities are so unique and odd, and in the past were so unusual, especially in small populations, that it would be easy for primitive men to conclude that somebody with Aspergers was really in touch with God(s) and should be followed.

In some parts of Israel, especially ultraorthodox communities, aspies are put on pedestals and declared by the rabbis to be in touch with YHWH and to be a vital conduit to Him. In pre-Christian Europe we might have been witch priest(esse)s or shamanic healers. The shamans of indigenous tribes in North America seem to be on the spectrum. Conversely, we tend not to follow authority, and therefore made easy targets for the powermongerers of the Christian Church. The bishops singlehandedly made witches into demons to be killed rather than religious leaders.

Jesus sounds like an aspie, if the legends are accurate. I would put Muhammad under the heading of Evil Aspies. There were popes and great monks who were definitely on the spectrum. The most revered Buddhist lamas seem to be there too. In prewar Vietnam Buddhist monks set themselves on fire and meditated until they burned up to protest the various forces at work in their country. It seems that a lot of us have a fascination with dying and death, and would be willing to commit suicide in protest of some issue.

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16 Apr 2009, 4:41 am

Chibi_Neko wrote:

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This is just so sad. How can they say that marriage is immoral?

bloody sad.

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