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Holocaust Museum Shooting In Washington D.C.

sounds like an example of 'suicide by cop'.

Who in their right mind would
go into a museum full of
school-age kids and start shooting?

I agree that at 88, this guy should
have picked up some common sense along the way.

I'm sure if I ever reach 88 years old any common sense I pick up along the way will be long gone by then.

That's not to justify his actions at all, it's just the fact of the matter.

the direction this thread is taking is a little off the point, I think.

Why? Simple. An 88 year old man is not in the best of health. I imagine that this guy was recently told that he has inoperable cancer, or some other incurable disease, and decided to go out in a blaze of glory. Suicide by cop is an oversimplification, he likely knew that he would die soon, and he had spent his whole life "fighting the Jews" with nothing to show for it, so he decided to go and attack the Jews, die in the process, and be hailed as a hero by his peers in the white supremacist community. He will likely die before the case goes to trial, if his wounds don't kill him.

This guy has a history and a web site- he has been on the radar for years-insanity is a strictly legal term meaning did the suspect understand what he was doing. If the guy was hallucinating dragons that's one thing- but he is not insane by legal definition.

@aimless: Don't worry, it's the nature of threads to meander a bit. They are sorta... aimless But to distill it down, what do you define the point of this thread as, Aimless? I was taking it as "Sometimes people can do pretty crazy things regardless of their age and it is sad". Is that kinda close? People here seem to be pretty close to that, anyway.

@ruveyn: I guess that makes a lot of sense. BTW, my dad agrees with your WWII view that we should have kept going afterwards until we reached U.S.A. Worldwide.

@postperson: Good grief, are you seeing that as aimed at YOU?!? You're nowhere near "elderly" if you're in your early 50's. Anyhow, let's be friends, hug and make up. Here, have a hug, I'm not shy to go first: <<HUG>>. Now quit thinking I'm following you everywhere just because I've posted after you in a few places. This is going to happen. You've posted after me a few places too. [Obi-Wan voice]: Let go, Luke. Besides, if we have an argument here it's going to knock the thread way off topic and our friend Aimless is literally going to have kittens.

You're right of course, I would expect threads to meander "aimlessly" it just seemed to start right away and I thought it missed the larger point of blind hatred towards of a group of people. I visited the Holocaust Museum this last April and I don't know that the guard who was killed wasn't the one checking my bag. Maybe so maybe not; but it is a humbling experience to be there and the exhibit is very powerful. All that you see there is repellent but there was one photo of "medical experiment" they made me wonder what did they tell themselves was the scientific benefit of doing such a thing, as it was clearly nothing more than a sick amusement.The one thing that scares me more than anything is mob mentality and it seems there is more and more rigid thinking and less and less tolerance in allowing people to be who they are. Kids are beating other kids just so they can post it on YouTube. I started that thread when I first saw the breaking news and I was responding emotionally.
On a somewhat different yet related topic- There is a little boy in my son's class who has Tourettes. His vocalizations are quite loud. I have been to several school functions and "J" also pops over to the neighborhood and I have yet to see one smirk or giggle from anyone. I think because "J" is a very matter of fact little boy and his attitude is this is what's going on and if you got a problem then tough sh!t. I could see clearly that the other kids didn't notice it anymore and for that I am pleased. "J" is a cool kid(also a rascal)