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26 Jul 2008, 2:14 am

Neither: Barr! :wink:

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26 Jul 2008, 6:47 am

Jkid wrote:

SierraBell wrote:

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Neither one. They're both the same.

I honestly don't understand how they could be the same.

Obama is anti-war while Mccain is pro-war.

If Obama is anti-war, why he is willing to stay the course in Iraq for another 16 months instead of an immediate pullout?

Because an immediate withdrawal will make Iraq and its government to fell apart upon its neighbors invading it taking over literally, Vietnam was the same deal. A slow withdrawal is a good one because you can still maintain a presence in the area along with a military base as a detergent. It will also give control to the Iraqis because we become less of a police force and more of a military detergent.

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26 Jul 2008, 7:26 am

Harper.

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If Obama is anti-war, why he is willing to stay the course in Iraq for another 16 months instead of an immediate pullout?

Millions of tons of tanks, ammo, supplies like food, medicine, fuel... plus all those soldiers. How do you extract that in even a month and do it safely and securely? You cannot. I bet 16 months is just about as fast as it can be done.

Oh and For you Americans, I wish Obama upon you, for better or for worse. He'll be better than McCain.

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26 Jul 2008, 8:40 am

I say neither (I'm not even old enough to vote, anyway).

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26 Jul 2008, 11:08 am

SierraBell wrote:

Jkid wrote:

Neither one. They're both the same.

I honestly don't understand how they could be the same.

Obama is anti-war while Mccain is pro-war.

Obama wants to go to war in Afghanistan. He says he's looking for alkeida (spelling?) there. Alkaida are in Pakistan, not in Afghanistan. The Taliban are in Afghanistan. He complains that Bush went after the wrong people after 911. He's doing the same thing with his idea on Afghanistan.

Obama was also considering war with Iran, now Bush is starting diplomacy with them. We'll see how he fares on that.

Why is Bush pro-diplomacy in Iraq and pro-war with Afghanistan. It's the same situation. They both require diplomacy and internal security (police), not war.[/quote]

Oops that's funny. I noticed I said "Why is "BUSH" pro-diplomacy....." I meant to say "Why is Obama pro-diplomacy in Iraq and wants to build up soldiers in Afghanistan...."

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26 Jul 2008, 4:10 pm

SierraBell wrote:

Jkid wrote:

Neither one. They're both the same.

I honestly don't understand how they could be the same.

Obama is anti-war while Mccain is pro-war.

Obama claims to be anti-war. This is to give you the illusion of choice.
Once in office he will be 'forced' to make some 'difficult' decisions.

Take a look at the man behind his campaign:

Zbginiew Brzezinksi, security adviser during the Carter presidency. He has now publicly admitted to covertly funding the Talibans rise to power in order to lure the soviets into invading Afghanistan.

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26 Jul 2008, 4:33 pm

Yeah even though I'm voting for Obama, it should be clear that the war will NOT end with him in office. If anything, it will simply relocate.

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26 Jul 2008, 9:13 pm

psych wrote:

SierraBell wrote:

Jkid wrote:

Neither one. They're both the same.

I honestly don't understand how they could be the same.

Obama is anti-war while Mccain is pro-war.

Obama claims to be anti-war. This is to give you the illusion of choice.
Once in office he will be 'forced' to make some 'difficult' decisions.

Take a look at the man behind his campaign:

Zbginiew Brzezinksi, security adviser during the Carter presidency. He has now publicly admitted to covertly funding the Talibans rise to power in order to lure the soviets into invading Afghanistan.

well of course, that was no deep dark secret that we funded the Taliban against the Russians, we also set Saddam up in power too.

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26 Jul 2008, 9:52 pm

sinsboldly wrote:

well of course, that was no deep dark secret that we funded the Taliban against the Russians, we also set Saddam up in power too.

Merle

The bigger secret is that when the US funded the Taliban. It was done in order to provoke an invasion into Afghanistan, rather than as a response to it.

Oh, & dont forget North Korea

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27 Jul 2008, 8:37 am

I don't live in America, and I pretty much think all politicians are untrustworthy (:P) but if anyone, then Obama, purely because having a black President with an arabic middle name will just make the right wing nuts crazy He seems less likely to worsen the USAs reputation with illegal wars and such too.

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27 Jul 2008, 9:16 am

Obama, because he doesn't look like he could drop dead any minute.

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27 Jul 2008, 9:21 am

Daran wrote:

Obama, because he doesn't look like he could drop dead any minute.

That provoked a chuckle. Yeah, being that age (no offense to the older people at all) must make it a lot harder for him to understand the majority of the people he wants to be the President of. You have very different concerns and memories at that age.

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27 Jul 2008, 10:38 am

greyh wrote:

Daran wrote:

Obama, because he doesn't look like he could drop dead any minute.

I am a customer service for an health insurance company that works with Medicare (over 65) members only. I get all sorts of information other than their aches and pains and what their benefits are. One of the topics (of which I can not respond, of course) is how in the H*LL can John McCain even think of being POTUS when they themselves know how difficult it is just to be alive in their 80's. Of course, this is what they volunteer themselves and not to any question I put to them.

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27 Jul 2008, 6:35 pm

Obama. McCain intends to waste tax money on research linking video games to violence. Plus, Obama DOESN'T suck.

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28 Jul 2008, 6:12 pm

McCain ALL THE WAY! Obama can't be trusted :roll: He flip flops! He says one thing and then goes and says something else just to please the people. :roll: Plus he's not experienced enough. :roll: He's making a foolish decision to end the war because if he does the terrotists will just make their way here... If Obama's elected president we're ALL DOOMED... :roll:

McCain all the way people!! !

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28 Jul 2008, 6:44 pm

DanPhantom24 wrote:

McCain ALL THE WAY!

Obama can't be trusted :roll:

He flip flops! He says one thing and then goes and says something else just to please the people. :roll:

That could describe ALL politicians :lol:

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