angry+sad+guilty need advice

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o.k, so a girl at my school was insisting that santa is real (don't even ask how she started talking about that, i have no idea) and then when i used logic to try and disuade her of the illogical belief and she just kept responding with "you can't prove he dont exist" and i tried to explain that firstly she was using multiple logical fallacys (argumentum ad ignorantiam by saying that he must exist because i can't disprove it and argumentum ad populum by saying that because lot's of children believe in him he must be real) and attempted to use all the reasonable thought proccesses to explain why she's wrong. (referencing other times when argumentum ad populum has failed such as people thinking the earth was flat for example) butt she continued insisting that i can't disprove it. i tried to explain argumentum ad ignorantiam again and then eventually i just got really pissed of at her illogical nature cos things have to be logical and i shouted at her and i said loads and loads of mean things ='( and she's really angry and upset and hates me but i couldent help it cos my head hurt cos of illogical beliefs and it's horrible and i didn't mean to be mean but it hurt what should i do ='(

That i s why i try and stay away from those kind of debates because ether i get pissed or some one else does

How old was the girl? Or was she trying a thought experiment?

I think in future, if you find yourself getting upset, just walk away before you lose your temper.

she's 16, same as me.
and she wasn't trying a thought experiment, she really does believe in santa.

Shes a moron

Move on

i know she's a moron, but she's a nice moron i feel bad for being angry at her, it's not her fault

You should probably stay clear of arguing with people when 'beliefs' are involved, no matter how silly they seem to you. There's no point; they aren't going to listen to your 'reason' and you are just going to get a headache.

I'm not sure how to set things right. You could try apologising for losing your temper and see if that works

You can't reason someone out of a position they haven't reasoned themselves into in the first place.

Read that several times.

Reasoning and logic should be taught in elementary school.

Just move on from whatever happened. Ruminating and chewing old cud won't get you anywhere - time to forgive yourself and associate with some people who don't live in fairy land and won't push your buttons so easily.

thank you all for the advice =)

Forget that girl.

Before I'm going to debate another person
I always put my position like
This is what I believe and I don't care what you believed or will be

So I won't try converting others and making mistakes that I will regret

but sofell i do care what she believes, people can't act in their own best interests if they use logical fallacies because they can't deduce what is in their own best interest, or how to achieve it.

This is like trying to debate religion with a fundamentalist--you can't win, even if you're right.

Don't mention what happened for a while and then see if maybe she's gotten over it. If not, try apologizing--say "I'm sorry, I shouldn't have gotten so upset, you're entitled to believe whatever you like." Of course, if she still tries to insist that you AGREE with her...that may be problematic.

IMO, someone who's so rigid in their thinking that they can't see others' points of view is very difficult to remain friends with, because she probably takes it as a personal attack when someone disagrees with her about anything.

I don't know if this helps, but...I know people like this, and in my experience remaining friends with them is extremely draining after a while.

Hope you find friends who are a bit more open-minded.