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darkscorpion
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17 Apr 2007, 11:48 am

this boy in my year called chris skelton has been calling me names and pushing me around for the last 3 months, i have been effectivly ignoring him until today he pushed it too far for me to drop when he took the micky out of my AS by calling me a social ret*d i turned round and told him to piss off, he then pushed me and i pushed him back, he then challenged me to a fight tomorrow and stated if i didnt show i was a coward and that he would beat the s*it into me next time he see's me, i have no proof of this so teachers can't do anything and i was wonderin what i should do!!the main risk is that if we get caught we could be suspended. i reckon i could take him but its his friends i'm mostly worried about.


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17 Apr 2007, 11:49 am

I don't think you should go



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17 Apr 2007, 12:02 pm

How old are you?

On second thought, doesn't matter, don't go. Who cares if he thinks you're a coward?



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17 Apr 2007, 12:05 pm

In my experience if you face up to a fight then his friends won`t butt in so it will not be unfair odds. Don`t go to a location he has arranged but try make sure the next time you meet is not too far from public. Fighting is wrong, but if you run you will always be running. Say you want to sort the situation out by talking like mature humans not scrablling in the dirt like animals (I used to always face up to my attackers but with words only - sometimes I got hit but mainly they just got angry and frustrated, hated me even more, but left me alone). Think of the consequences of your possible actions and which is the easiest to live with.


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17 Apr 2007, 12:09 pm

im 17
if they think im a coward they'll call me it to my face and that will dig at me till i burst
ive tried talking to him , i have to sit next to him in biology :(


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17 Apr 2007, 12:23 pm

just tell them that you are beneith fighting them, if they want you there to prove a point, you will be there....

but you wont fight, you wont raise a finger....

tell them a real man doesnt attack what he percieves as his inferiours....


maybe they will get the idea....

tell them either they kill you or they dont fight you, because you will never give them the satisfaction of conceeding defeat from bullies


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17 Apr 2007, 1:13 pm

Where's Gene Hunt? Why won't he back you up?

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17 Apr 2007, 1:24 pm

ask him what he's gonna do next year... when every friggin person that ticks him off in the real world? is he gonna have them meet him my the monkey bars after work?

lol

tell him to grow up and move on... that you don't really care he's pissed off at you...


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17 Apr 2007, 1:36 pm

I agree ... don't go!

You are NOT a coward for walking AWAY FROM a fight. In fact I would think, in this case, you would be Brave to do so.

If you feel you must go, then I would suggest you get one of those teachers to "show up" at the location - while you are telling this Coward (cuz thats what bullies are) .. anyway .. while you are explaining to him Why you dont believe that "fighting" is a sign of being a more highly evolved human being, and so you won't be able to reciprocate - at least not with physical punches. Then if he takes a swing - be prepared to duck ! And that teacher Better step in!

Anyway .. i'm sorry you are having to deal with this crap .. i left home and school at 15 because i just couldn't take it .. i hope you deal better than i did ..

All the best. And I do NOT think you are a coward at all.



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17 Apr 2007, 2:54 pm

Don't show. When he taunts you for it, say, "I have better things to do than to waste my time with morons."

If he jumps you, keep your cell handy and dial 9-1-1. Ball up and don't fight back. Tell the operator you are being attacked.

Bullies only want to humiliate you. If you call them on it, it screws them all up. Stay rational, and keep your cool. Remember that he's the fool, not you.



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17 Apr 2007, 5:08 pm

the two times i was in this situation, i had different was of dealing with it.... but in both times i was never bullied again...

the first time he was there with three of his friends, and they were backing me up into a corner, and he said "whaddya gonna do punk?" so i showed him, im not proud of this, but i gave him a crunching uppercut to his nose and his head snapped back and he fell to the floor on his rear end.

his friends fled, and i pulled his collar towards my face and stared him in the eyes and said "if you EVER come near me, or any other kid here, i WILL finish the job" and dropped him and walked off.

the second time, i was up against a mammoth of a guy, and the school kids had circled me, and the guy said "i will let you take the first punch and kick" and laughed... i refused and said "imj not going to fight you" well.... he hit me, and down i went. i came back up with a black eye...half an hour later with two black eyes, a dead arm and a dead leg, a wounded solar plexus, a cut lip and blood flowing from my nose (though not broken), and i got up again...

he looked unnerved at the fact i kept getting back up yet refused to raise a finger to defend myself or attack him, and he stopped momentarily and looked into my eyes. i looked back and said "if you want to win this thing, you will have to finish me off, because even though you can easily break my body, i will never claim defeat for a fight i am not fighting"

his eyes went wide, and he began to back step, then he broke the crowd and fled....

apparently i won by default by the rules of the playground, but although my wounds healed up after about 3 weeks, he could never look me in the face again, and didnt pick on anyone i knew of while he was at that school...


these are my experiences, make of them what you will...


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17 Apr 2007, 7:13 pm

darkscorpion wrote:
i reckon i could take him but its his friends i'm mostly worried about.

lol - I read about pyschological warefare somewhere. A US Marine said if surrounded by terrorists, the best way to discourage them from attacking is to cut the throat of the biggest one and spray the others with his blood. :lol:

Show no pain and lay him in his own blood.

Rehearse saying an explaination (to teachers) how you were only reacting in self defence to bullying. This is most important. If you get pulled up and asked to explain yourself, be prepared and have some words ready.


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17 Apr 2007, 7:21 pm

darkscorpion wrote:
this boy in my year called chris skelton has been calling me names and pushing me around for the last 3 months, i have been effectivly ignoring him until today he pushed it too far for me to drop when he took the micky out of my AS by calling me a social ret*d i turned round and told him to piss off, he then pushed me and i pushed him back, he then challenged me to a fight tomorrow and stated if i didnt show i was a coward and that he would beat the s*it into me next time he see's me, i have no proof of this so teachers can't do anything and i was wonderin what i should do! !the main risk is that if we get caught we could be suspended. i reckon i could take him but its his friends i'm mostly worried about.


Based on my experiences, and I can't believe I'm saying this, I would say that you shouldn't fight him.

I remember one time I got into a fight during recess around 6th grade. There was a big circle of people around us watching the fight. This was before I was big and people stopped picking on me but I was having my way in this fight. It was mostly a fistfight and one of my punches knocked him to the ground. When he tried to get up I kicked him. Then all of a sudden I went down. The whole crowd dog piled me and attacked me. You're right to be worried about his friends.


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17 Apr 2007, 7:32 pm

GoatOnFire wrote:
Based on my experiences, and I can't believe I'm saying this, I would say that you shouldn't fight him.

I would always get revenge. Sometimes, it would be long enough after an incident they couldn't remember what I was getting them for. :lol:

If you pass him in a corridor, just whack him in the guts and keep walking. If he reacts, he will look like the agressor.


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17 Apr 2007, 7:37 pm

Aspie_for_the_Lord wrote:
just tell them that you are beneith fighting them,


hate being the AS-grammar nazi... but it would be that fighting should be beneathe (or below) him... he's ABOVE fighting

might be important contextually if he uses this approach


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17 Apr 2007, 7:47 pm

BazzaMcKenzie wrote:
I would always get revenge. Sometimes, it would be long enough after an incident they couldn't remember what I was getting them for.


You think very much like I do. I held a grudge against every one who cowardly attacked me to protect their p**** of a friend and tried to keep a list of people to get revenge on. I kept doing things to these people for revenge (peeing on their locker, etc.). The thing that truly bothered me about it was that I couldn't remember who everyone was in that pile so my revenge list wasn't completed.


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