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20 Mar 2021, 12:54 pm

People on here don't seem to agree which psychological conditions if any NT includes or doesn't include. However, in some cases when people use it to mean non-autistic they may be aware that that's not exactly what NT means and might be using it for simplicity or because it's the more well known term than allistic.

I'm not sure if there has been any specific thread or conversation that prompted you to make this post. But in general I don't think people are trying to imply that everyone else no matter what disorder they have is more normal than you or other autistic people.



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20 Mar 2021, 1:29 pm

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Yes. I found that out that the NT term does not cover all those who are not on the spectrum and allistic is a term which does cover anyone who is not autistic.

The confusion comes because neurotypical sounds and seems like it is a general opposite to neurodiverse and in a way it is just that, but in another way it is not the whole picture, like you say... And what about those who sit somewhere in the middle? Interesting isn't it?

"Neurotypical" is indeed the opposite of "neurodivergent," which encompasses anyone substantially different from the norm in neurological terms, not just autistic people.

The term "neurodiverse" is technically not appropriate to apply to any individual people at all. A couple or a group can be neurodiverse, meaning that it is composed of people who are neurologically different from each other. Groups can be diverse, whereas individuals diverge.

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- What Is: Neurodiversity, Neurodivergent, Neurotypical - Disabled World, updated 2021-03-15.

- Neurodiversity: Some Basic Terms & Definitions by Nick Walker, September 27, 2014


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20 Mar 2021, 1:46 pm

NorthWind wrote:
People on here don't seem to agree which psychological conditions if any NT includes or doesn't include. However, in some cases when people use it to mean non-autistic they may be aware that that's not exactly what NT means and might be using it for simplicity or because it's the more well known term than allistic.

I'm not sure if there has been any specific thread or conversation that prompted you to make this post. But in general I don't think people are trying to imply that everyone else no matter what disorder they have is more normal than you or other autistic people.


Some people here say "99% of the population are NT".


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20 Mar 2021, 2:16 pm

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Some people here say "99% of the population are NT".

That's clearly not the case.

It's not even true that 99% of the population is allistic, under current definitions of autism. About 2% of the population is now said to be on the autism spectrum.


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21 Mar 2021, 9:05 am

Joe90 wrote:
NorthWind wrote:
People on here don't seem to agree which psychological conditions if any NT includes or doesn't include. However, in some cases when people use it to mean non-autistic they may be aware that that's not exactly what NT means and might be using it for simplicity or because it's the more well known term than allistic.

I'm not sure if there has been any specific thread or conversation that prompted you to make this post. But in general I don't think people are trying to imply that everyone else no matter what disorder they have is more normal than you or other autistic people.


Some people here say "99% of the population are NT".

Yes, those are probably the ones who actually think NT means non-autistic. However, that doesn't automatically mean that they think autism is the most severe disorder that exists or that everyone else, no matter what disorders they have, is more normal than autistic people.
To some of them it might just be a word that in their mind means 'non-autistic'. They mightn't read more into it or think about the literal meaning of the word and draw conclusions about non-autistic but disabled people based on it.