Why can’t I just be loved for who I am?

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05 Dec 2017, 6:51 pm

Why ? Why am I never good enough why has not a single women cared for me or found me loveable :cry:



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05 Dec 2017, 7:04 pm

often what people think someone is, and what they really are, can be very different things.

i imagine some of these people didn’t get the opportunity to know you very well.


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05 Dec 2017, 8:08 pm

I don’t know sly, but I’m sorry you are hurting brother. :heart:



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05 Dec 2017, 8:57 pm

I like you for who you are, Sly.



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05 Dec 2017, 9:03 pm

^^ what kraftie said, what hobo said. (Hug)


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05 Dec 2017, 9:07 pm

You get on my nerves sometimes----but my wife gets on my nerves, too LOL



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05 Dec 2017, 9:46 pm

You're cool just the way you are.
Lots of people aren't thrilled with me. I'm a big pain in the ass, but also very sweet. Hugs.


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05 Dec 2017, 9:50 pm

Kiprobalhato wrote:
often what people think someone is, and what they really are, can be very different things.

i imagine some of these people didn’t get the opportunity to know you very well.


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This is makes a lot of sense.



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05 Dec 2017, 9:51 pm

angela8 wrote:
You're cool just the way you are.
Lots of people aren't thrilled with me. I'm a big pain in the ass, but also very sweet. Hugs.


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Listen to her too and even KraftieKortie.



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15 Aug 2019, 9:46 pm

Maybe the women are jerks, or maybe you are projecting your own self hatred onto others. You seem nice to me. I always think people have issues with me because I have bipolar.


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15 Aug 2019, 9:51 pm

Relationships are overrated. Don't go chasing waterfalls.


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15 Aug 2019, 10:23 pm

did you ever loved someone, sly? like really loving someone. not crushing over some cute girl or some feeling moved by fear of loneliness. what is wrong with this self-pity mentality that no-one-ever-love-me, which you fall often and i'm not here judging you because i fall into this too, is that we are waiting a relationship to be given to us. it won't happen.

we aren't out there showing ourselves and engaging with people so they can know us and we can know them because that's how people fall in love because we are so busy suffering how we aren't not good enough and feeling like life is robbing us something we deserve.

make yourself lovable. love people as well. be good to them. be with the people you want to be loved by. give them reasons to want to know you, to be near you. and that's not pity, and that's not a car or a better job. it's your personality, your interests, whatever make you who you are.



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15 Aug 2019, 11:30 pm

ltcvnzl wrote:
did you ever loved someone, sly? like really loving someone. not crushing over some cute girl or some feeling moved by fear of loneliness. what is wrong with this self-pity mentality that no-one-ever-love-me, which you fall often and i'm not here judging you because i fall into this too, is that we are waiting a relationship to be given to us. it won't happen.

we aren't out there showing ourselves and engaging with people so they can know us and we can know them because that's how people fall in love because we are so busy suffering how we aren't not good enough and feeling like life is robbing us something we deserve.

make yourself lovable. love people as well. be good to them. be with the people you want to be loved by. give them reasons to want to know you, to be near you. and that's not pity, and that's not a car or a better job. it's your personality, your interests, whatever make you who you are.



I do put myself out there I’m on 6 different dating sites and go on them daily to swipe people and such.

They won’t want to get to know me they only want to get to know well off men with their life together.

Good job, good car, own place, handsome

That’s what they all say they want.

I’m not even worth talking to non less date or friends. The USA especially west coast is super super superficial and low on women which leads to pickiness like a kid in candy store with so many choices but they can only have one candy.

Hard to get to know anyone when then give you nasty look or say “sorry you’re not good enough, sorry you aren’t a real man, etc”


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15 Aug 2019, 11:33 pm

angela8 wrote:
Maybe the women are jerks, or maybe you are projecting your own self hatred onto others. You seem nice to me. I always think people have issues with me because I have bipolar.


They tell me I’m not good enough or not a real man or not attractive. They clear on the type of man who is good enough :(

Nice isn’t enough “any guy should be nice that just basic human decency” is what I’m told.
I apparently have no positive things as those I do are just expected so they can get a a**hole who’s well off and change him to be nice and sweet.


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16 Aug 2019, 12:13 am

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ltcvnzl wrote:
did you ever loved someone, sly? like really loving someone. not crushing over some cute girl or some feeling moved by fear of loneliness. what is wrong with this self-pity mentality that no-one-ever-love-me, which you fall often and i'm not here judging you because i fall into this too, is that we are waiting a relationship to be given to us. it won't happen.

we aren't out there showing ourselves and engaging with people so they can know us and we can know them because that's how people fall in love because we are so busy suffering how we aren't not good enough and feeling like life is robbing us something we deserve.

make yourself lovable. love people as well. be good to them. be with the people you want to be loved by. give them reasons to want to know you, to be near you. and that's not pity, and that's not a car or a better job. it's your personality, your interests, whatever make you who you are.



I do put myself out there I’m on 6 different dating sites and go on them daily to swipe people and such.

They won’t want to get to know me they only want to get to know well off men with their life together.

Good job, good car, own place, handsome

That’s what they all say they want.

I’m not even worth talking to non less date or friends. The USA especially west coast is super super superficial and low on women which leads to pickiness like a kid in candy store with so many choices but they can only have one candy.

Hard to get to know anyone when then give you nasty look or say “sorry you’re not good enough, sorry you aren’t a real man, etc”


Dating sites! Even if it's 6 sites, it's still the same model of place. People are not really knowing you when they reject you, and you don't even know the people you are suffering about being rejected by. You clearly don't the women in those sites – look how you talk about them, in negative generalization. You're setting yourself up to failure. I thought OKCupid used to be better to a more in depth profile but they changed their system and is quite unusable right now, also I have no idea what people use in your area.

What you think you have to offer to a partner? If you're not so gifted looks-wise, maybe try to show your personality in the photos or maybe focus on a site with less focus on pictures, and write a good text that would attract people who you would be interested.

Also, try stuff outside dating sites. Let people get to know you outside this dating context. Do you have friends? Do you have any hobby? Do you keep off-work relationship with your coworkers? You maybe not be #1 choice from someone in a dating site, but maybe if this person gets to know you, you can have a chance.

I'm not good at dating, but I'm still a girl maybe if you want to show me how is your profile introduction I could help you. Maybe if you have a close female friend that could help you in IRL it can be good, maybe she can even help with taking photos of you.



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18 Aug 2019, 3:45 pm

ltcvnzl wrote:
Dating sites! Even if it's 6 sites, it's still the same model of place. People are not really knowing you when they reject you, and you don't even know the people you are suffering about being rejected by. You clearly don't the women in those sites – look how you talk about them, in negative generalization. You're setting yourself up to failure. I thought OKCupid used to be better to a more in depth profile but they changed their system and is quite unusable right now, also I have no idea what people use in your area.

What you think you have to offer to a partner? If you're not so gifted looks-wise, maybe try to show your personality in the photos or maybe focus on a site with less focus on pictures, and write a good text that would attract people who you would be interested.

Also, try stuff outside dating sites. Let people get to know you outside this dating context. Do you have friends? Do you have any hobby? Do you keep off-work relationship with your coworkers? You maybe not be #1 choice from someone in a dating site, but maybe if this person gets to know you, you can have a chance.

I'm not good at dating, but I'm still a girl maybe if you want to show me how is your profile introduction I could help you. Maybe if you have a close female friend that could help you in IRL it can be good, maybe she can even help with taking photos of you.


Been rejected in person for same reason. I’ve also seen women I’ve interacted with and worked with on dating sites. It’s not generalization when they themselves say it.o.0
If every guy you met said you were ugly and so won’t date you how would you respond to that? Eventually you’d accept that’s reality and you can’t fight it.
Every wo,an I’ve met says I’m ugly and that I’m not good enough to date for not having car, Job and own place ie life together. To believe otherwise is paramount to me thinking I can fly despite falling to ground ever time I try,

As been pointed out to me here by women and some men, I have nothing to offer and never will unless I go get a actual job and work full time, climb the Corp ladder, be a real man etc.

I dont know how to write anything funny without coming off creepy. And I see others do it but i dont know how, I also have no life experiences as I’m poor. I can’t trwvel, I can’t go do things. I can’t share some awkward trwvel experiences as I’ve never traveled.
My personality is seen as childish. It’s ok for women to be playful and silly, when a guy is he’s childish and needs to grow up.
Anyways as I don’t do things, don’t trwvel and don’t habe friends, I have to tske sll ,y pictures myself so that limits me to selfies, unless I go pay a professional $300 to tske w photo but I can’t afford that either. Apparently lot people get their photos edited to them look more good for dating sites

No friends, my hobbies are video games(limited to online only mostly guys),tv, shaving(limited to guys online), coin collecting(can’t tell others) and guns(can’t tell others) in short my interest are male dominated, very few women and the ones who do are married or in relationships and got into the interest from their bf.
People at work don’t like me, especially the women as they too good for me.
See that’s the problem women in person don’t want to waste their time on guy like me either not even for friends. They won’t even talk to me, I’ll try to say hi and hey ignore me or give me a nasty look and ignore me. How would I ever get a chance ? And I have hard time talking to or even looking at women so it takes a lot for me to say hi.
However with the younger guys going to college they go right up and flirt with them. So they ignore me and flirt with the other guys(often they have gf already)
In fact I’m mostly invisible to people at work, hey have private conversation right next to me like I’m not even there. :cry:

Last job women would ask me where all the men are like I don’t exist.

I’d have to pm you pictures as it’s all apps now and can’t share profile links.


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