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28 Sep 2008, 4:40 am

so staff in here is making rule that we are getting restrained at night because there is going to be only one staff member at nights seriously where they make these rules -.- its not like we are going to tear place down or someting :roll:


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28 Sep 2008, 7:03 am

What are you talking about?


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28 Sep 2008, 7:08 am

Are you and those there a danger to yourself and/or others (I guess the property too)?

If no, I don't see how it'd be justifiable for them to do such.



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28 Sep 2008, 8:44 am

no but its saving moneys if they have to pay extra at night work for only 1 person instead of many-.- im only danger to my self if i get meltdown and hit my self at wall anyway i dont like spending nigth on restraints who would? [img]http://www.segufix.com/segufix/media/produktpic/fixier/2250-DV_1.jpg i needed to use picture since i couldn't give link to certain side in www.segufix.com


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28 Sep 2008, 9:15 am

MrMark wrote:
What are you talking about?
about fact that there has really no good reason to make these kind of rules if they wanna save money this is not good way to do it -.-


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28 Sep 2008, 9:52 am

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Do they have your agreement to use these restraints?

The SEGUFIX site uses frames, which makes links a bit of a pain, but this seems pretty clear:
Safety Information

I cannot see any way that the "staff" can decide to use these restraints. I'm not sure that you can even ask them to restrain you. It would seem to me that it should only be on the explicit orders of your doctor.

I also note that the SEGUFIX safety instructions, above, say:

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Warning! Monitor patients frequently:

Patients in restrictive products require frequent monitoring. Aggressive, agitated, restless patients and those in danger of aspirating require continuous monitoring.


That sounds to me as if they probably should be monitoring you MORE often - they may need EXTRA staff to provide sufficient monitoring for all the residents throughout the night.


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28 Sep 2008, 11:51 am

Oh! So when you said "staff in here" you didn't mean WP was restricting your posting at night (which made me wonder, night WHERE, since WP is everywhere...world dominion, here we come!) you meant in the...facility, I guess...where you are now. Sorry, I didn't understand your original post.

I'm sorry they're putting you in restraints at night; that must really stink. They should have sufficient staff at all times to properly supervise the residents, not just tie the residents down for their own convenience.



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28 Sep 2008, 12:22 pm

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28 Sep 2008, 12:42 pm

8O

That group home sounds suspicious reaper! !!


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28 Sep 2008, 12:44 pm

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28 Sep 2008, 1:05 pm

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28 Sep 2008, 1:18 pm

the important question is: what happens if you need to go the the lavvie at night?



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28 Sep 2008, 3:48 pm

lau wrote:
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Do they have your agreement to use these restraints?

The SEGUFIX site uses frames, which makes links a bit of a pain, but this seems pretty clear:
Safety Information

I cannot see any way that the "staff" can decide to use these restraints. I'm not sure that you can even ask them to restrain you. It would seem to me that it should only be on the explicit orders of your doctor.

I also note that the SEGUFIX safety instructions, above, say:
Quote:
Warning! Monitor patients frequently:

Patients in restrictive products require frequent monitoring. Aggressive, agitated, restless patients and those in danger of aspirating require continuous monitoring.


That sounds to me as if they probably should be monitoring you MORE often - they may need EXTRA staff to provide sufficient monitoring for all the residents throughout the night.
Do they have your agreement to use these restraints? -yes since its better then using old wrist and ankle restraints (witch are still in use lot of residents etc around world) and as far that i know they have doctor agreement to use restraints when i get meltdowns ..i havent yet got chance to ask my doctor do they have permission to use em at nigth too ,hes coming at wednesday ..also yes they are saving money in wrong place even if they would got permission to use restraints at nigth 8O


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28 Sep 2008, 4:09 pm

MissConstrue wrote:
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That group home sounds suspicious reaper! !!
acsually even thinks suck here at big time at least this one is monitored there has been couple cases in world when there has been discovered some abused grouphome :x


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28 Sep 2008, 4:16 pm

bheid wrote:
the important question is: what happens if you need to go the the lavvie at night?
thats why we have alarm buttons to ask help which are recruited by law so u can just ask someone to open restraints


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28 Sep 2008, 4:26 pm

lets make a simple calculation how much they save they get normal tax which is about 3€/h then if they do nigth switch they get +3€ its 6€/h at nigth so nigth swith last about 12hours so they get about 10€ from whole nigth when u minus taxing stuff now count that 10€ whith dates of year and they save about 3650€/year whith this


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