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22 May 2015, 12:19 am

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maybe if I was happy being alone for the rest of my life that woudl be true. but when you desire to be with others you have to care about what others think about you. thanks I hope they all don't react badly to me, so I'll be able to use them all.

I would love to be able to use those pretty-smelling soaps :) I have had good luck with gel soaps, in general. anyways, i decided several years back to put in a group request with meetup.com and a year after doing so, found several "square pegs aspie meetups" within driving distance of me, have you tried meetup.com? nationwide there are aspie groups hosted by meetup.com, it is worth a try IMHO. it was my first time in my 5+ decade of living that i found "my tribe" as it were, people just like myself. it was an eye opener, and it is available to you also.



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22 May 2015, 6:12 pm

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maybe if I was happy being alone for the rest of my life that woudl be true. but when you desire to be with others you have to care about what others think about you. thanks I hope they all don't react badly to me, so I'll be able to use them all.

I would love to be able to use those pretty-smelling soaps :) I have had good luck with gel soaps, in general. anyways, i decided several years back to put in a group request with meetup.com and a year after doing so, found several "square pegs aspie meetups" within driving distance of me, have you tried meetup.com? nationwide there are aspie groups hosted by meetup.com, it is worth a try IMHO. it was my first time in my 5+ decade of living that i found "my tribe" as it were, people just like myself. it was an eye opener, and it is available to you also.


oh forgot to mention their shave soaps. I'd post pictures but probably bore people.

yeah meetup.com sucks here. unless you're into hiking in europe, or a feminist, or a book writer, or a artist. or just like going around getting drunk.



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23 May 2015, 1:31 am

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oh forgot to mention their shave soaps. I'd post pictures but probably bore people. yeah meetup.com sucks here. unless you're into hiking in europe, or a feminist, or a book writer, or a artist. or just like going around getting drunk.

please do mention the shave soaps, my old whiskers need more help nowadays being shaved. :bigsmurf: it does not hurt to put in a group request in any case, that is what I did and it worked, It might also work for you if you put in the request and just wait.



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23 May 2015, 2:55 am

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but what is value if no one thinks its value, and there's no one to spend it with..


What is value? The aspects of yourself that you value, the core of your personality, the person you have been since childhood.
Generally peoples standards include your personal attributes, but they have different principals also included on their longer list, thus devaluing (by quantity) core standards like being integrous, kind, ethical, peaceful, principled, thoughtful etc.
Personally I think that core values are what is attractive about a person, they are not transient, but this is only possible if they are a part of the persons integrity, and not just words.

Think about it, (not questions to reply to)Why be kind to anyone Sly? Why is being thoughtful important? Why are these standards generally significant to you? Why do you practice them when it would be much easier to be rude and short tempered? How many others say these principals are important, but don't actually implement them in their lives?

You do, you actually take a more difficult route than other people who dilute the significance of these values, its almost like they don't realize how important these standards are.

I understand that you are craving companionship, but why on earth would you sell out on who you are to achieve that? It would be faking, and no relationship can last based on falseness, focus on validating yourself Sly, based on standards that you set, develop your self belief in the areas you value.

The right partner will value you for who you are, and will be attracted by a strong personality that reflects you as a person. I honestly think this is something slightly older women appreciate, and not what the 20-somethings have learned to appreciate yet.



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23 May 2015, 3:47 am

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oh forgot to mention their shave soaps. I'd post pictures but probably bore people. yeah meetup.com sucks here. unless you're into hiking in europe, or a feminist, or a book writer, or a artist. or just like going around getting drunk.

please do mention the shave soaps, my old whiskers need more help nowadays being shaved. :bigsmurf: it does not hurt to put in a group request in any case, that is what I did and it worked, It might also work for you if you put in the request and just wait.


I'm not sure my last shave thread on here, got little attention. I am on a shaving forum, but its eh, they just don't get shaving from a aspie point of view. so they can't get my concerns. I also can't explain them out of fear of being seen different.
I have 11 now. and soon to be 3 brushes.

group request on meetup? how and then wont' others see that I'm aspie then attack me :S



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23 May 2015, 3:54 am

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What is value? The aspects of yourself that you value, the core of your personality, the person you have been since childhood.
Generally peoples standards include your personal attributes, but they have different principals also included on their longer list, thus devaluing (by quantity) core standards like being integrous, kind, ethical, peaceful, principled, thoughtful etc.
Personally I think that core values are what is attractive about a person, they are not transient, but this is only possible if they are a part of the persons integrity, and not just words.

Think about it, (not questions to reply to)Why be kind to anyone Sly? Why is being thoughtful important? Why are these standards generally significant to you? Why do you practice them when it would be much easier to be rude and short tempered? How many others say these principals are important, but don't actually implement them in their lives?

You do, you actually take a more difficult route than other people who dilute the significance of these values, its almost like they don't realize how important these standards are.

I understand that you are craving companionship, but why on earth would you sell out on who you are to achieve that? It would be faking, and no relationship can last based on falseness, focus on validating yourself Sly, based on standards that you set, develop your self belief in the areas you value.

The right partner will value you for who you are, and will be attracted by a strong personality that reflects you as a person. I honestly think this is something slightly older women appreciate, and not what the 20-somethings have learned to appreciate yet.


just seems only way is to sell out, though I don't know how to do that. I know I'll have to hide my true self, the self that has mlp stuff or animie stuff or cute stuffies.

but those older women are from a different generation. I think when the 20 somethings grow to that age they'll still feel the same, its how their generation is. eh mine is. its all about me me me me. to them. what will this do for me, what will dating him do for me. why should I do that whats in it for me. etc. not meaning myself by me from their point of view.

as for older women now, I want a fun relationship. I also can't provide what htey want either which is a decent job to settle down and have kids.



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23 May 2015, 4:02 am

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I'm not sure my last shave thread on here, got little attention. I am on a shaving forum, but its eh, they just don't get shaving from a aspie point of view. so they can't get my concerns. I also can't explain them out of fear of being seen different. I have 11 now. and soon to be 3 brushes. group request on meetup? how and then wont' others see that I'm aspie then attack me :S

there are thousands of posts on here that I cannot possibly see all of them, so that is why I did not notice your other shaving threads, sorry. I am an aspie and when I put in a aspie group request I did not get attacked, they will just try to find you a group that meets your requested needs just as they did for me. it is in their interest to find you a group because they charge money to the group founder [but not to the members]. that is their business model.



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23 May 2015, 4:18 am

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just seems only way is to sell out, though I don't know how to do that. I know I'll have to hide my true self, the self that has mlp stuff or animie stuff or cute stuffies.

but those older women are from a different generation. I think when the 20 somethings grow to that age they'll still feel the same, its how their generation is. eh mine is. its all about me me me me. to them. what will this do for me, what will dating him do for me. why should I do that whats in it for me. etc. not meaning myself by me from their point of view.

as for older women now, I want a fun relationship. I also can't provide what htey want either which is a decent job to settle down and have kids.


Okay Ill put it to you like this... Ive had the relationship with the guy that had it all, everything on the list... Perfect on paper.
But it wasn't perfect in reality, far far from it. The things that I thought were important in my 20s are not really that important now, but my core values have remained the same and if anything are more significant to me today, than ever before. I cant be unique in this regard, I think its just a part of growing up and realizing whats important.

Instead of focusing on what you do not have, perhaps start with what you do, the idea is that if you do not place worth on your integrity, how can you expect someone else to place any value on your attributes at all? People are funny creatures, I've observed that if someone notices something desirable about another person, it seems to attract the attention of others, and based on the quantity of interest the value of the desirable attribute goes up. First of all, you want to avoid women like that, they do not know their own minds (To generalize: associated with youth), secondly, the most significant accolade you can give yourself is your own approval, and damn ,that done modestly is attractive.



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23 May 2015, 8:20 am

Amity is one smart lady!

Cmon Sly. Ask a lady to a barbecue. Wear your chef's hat.



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23 May 2015, 1:37 pm

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there are thousands of posts on here that I cannot possibly see all of them, so that is why I did not notice your other shaving threads, sorry. I am an aspie and when I put in a aspie group request I did not get attacked, they will just try to find you a group that meets your requested needs just as they did for me. it is in their interest to find you a group because they charge money to the group founder [but not to the members]. that is their business model.


http://wrongplanet.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=278263

idu, so you regsiter on the site and ask for a group? I just searched all the groups in my area o.O



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23 May 2015, 1:46 pm

Sly, the 4th through the 18th of july a group of Autistic volunteers will be working on Ocate Cliffs [ a retreat center in NM that will be run by autistics] There is no payment, all volunteer,but Star Ford has said that there is grant money to help with transportation,and all of your food is included. If you would like her number, leave me a message. Being in nature with only Autistics I believe could really help you to feel better about yourself.



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23 May 2015, 2:38 pm

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just seems only way is to sell out, though I don't know how to do that. I know I'll have to hide my true self, the self that has mlp stuff or animie stuff or cute stuffies.

but those older women are from a different generation. I think when the 20 somethings grow to that age they'll still feel the same, its how their generation is. eh mine is. its all about me me me me. to them. what will this do for me, what will dating him do for me. why should I do that whats in it for me. etc. not meaning myself by me from their point of view.

as for older women now, I want a fun relationship. I also can't provide what htey want either which is a decent job to settle down and have kids.


Okay Ill put it to you like this... Ive had the relationship with the guy that had it all, everything on the list... Perfect on paper.
But it wasn't perfect in reality, far far from it. The things that I thought were important in my 20s are not really that important now, but my core values have remained the same and if anything are more significant to me today, than ever before. I cant be unique in this regard, I think its just a part of growing up and realizing whats important.

Instead of focusing on what you do not have, perhaps start with what you do, the idea is that if you do not place worth on your integrity, how can you expect someone else to place any value on your attributes at all? People are funny creatures, I've observed that if someone notices something desirable about another person, it seems to attract the attention of others, and based on the quantity of interest the value of the desirable attribute goes up. First of all, you want to avoid women like that, they do not know their own minds (To generalize: associated with youth), secondly, the most significant accolade you can give yourself is your own approval, and damn ,that done modestly is attractive.


you're not but they all married/taken.
in fact only married/take women say I'd make a good bf. but lot of good that does me, they already found their guy.

only things good about me aren't important to most people, kindness, sweet, romantic, helpful, playful, silly, fun, funny, etc. not sure about the rest you said o.O



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23 May 2015, 2:39 pm

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Amity is one smart lady!

Cmon Sly. Ask a lady to a barbecue. Wear your chef's hat.


they don't even want me to message them. no way they want to go to my home where I live with my family for a bbq on my dirty bbq.
in fact they would be so turned off, one of their requirements is living alone.



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23 May 2015, 3:42 pm

Did anybody actually tell you that you should not "message?"

It wouldn't make sense if a barbecue grill is clean.

I wish you could meet someone in your neighborhood, rather than on these dating sites.



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23 May 2015, 5:02 pm

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Did anybody actually tell you that you should not "message?"

It wouldn't make sense if a barbecue grill is clean.

I wish you could meet someone in your neighborhood, rather than on these dating sites.


yeah they say don't message me or only message me if you meet: A.B.C.D.E. etc

mei I'm too lazy to clean it would have to spray it and take a wash to it and I'm afraid to get the tank or hoses wet :S

suppose but I don't know how and i wouldn't' talk to them. too shy and too many calibers. impossible to know if they single or what interests they have, if we are compatible etc.



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25 May 2015, 2:24 am

after reading some stuff here I'm feeling depressed. :cry: