Serious coronavirus thread. No deniers
Instead of being in the technically refusing work category could you go out sick? With anxiety for government purposes regarding housing/supports, but not give a specific symptom to your boss, more a version of the truth, something like... "I've been feeling unwell the last few days, with all this Coronavirus going around I dont want to risk being responsible for infecting our customers."
If pushed for details by the boss, say you're waiting on a medical appointment, but that you will stay in touch with updates.
When it comes to future employment... You were in the unwell category, not the uncooperative team player category, even if you dont get your job back, at least a reference from your current boss might be in a more favorable light.
Due to working 12 hours a week I only have 8 sick hours so only enough to cover two days of the 3 I work this week.
No one else wears gloves at work so I’ll be made fun if and laughed at behind my back like the other guy who did.
I won’t be sticking around after this virus is gone if I live that long,
My love life hasn’t changed and won’t improve, I’d likely just get banned again.
Sorry to be clear... you need to protect your mum. Jobs will come and go, this one is putting you and your loved ones in actual danger.
What I'm suggesting is that instead of you telling your boss that you quit, you string him along till your sick leave pay runs out, to protect your job prospects in the future. The fact that you have not been given PPE is all the justification I would need to view this as a fair exchange.
No need to be a martyr for principles, blend in with the crowd and all anyone will remember is that your reasons for not returning to work were illness related.
Retail is notoriously insensitive to workers’ rights.
Those people who laugh at Sly are idiots.
Once Sly loses this job, it will difficult for him to get another one. His rent is based on his income from this job, plus his disability benefits. They only assess him once a year, and they wouldn’t reduce his rent if he loses this job. This would make it difficult for him to afford the rent. And therefore to buy food and pay for utilities.
Going to work puts him at risk for acquiring the virus. His mother is in a high-risk group should she acquire the virus. He is in contact with his mother frequently.
So far, Oregon, the state he lives in, has had 161 cases of COVID-19 with 4 deaths. It is probable that there are many mild cases around. He’s not in the same situation as in New York City, where there have been 10,000 cases with around 100 deaths. And many mild cases around undiagnosed.
It’s a very hard choice for Sly to make. The potential $600 he would get from the US government would only benefit him briefly.
I can see why Sly is in a real dilemma. I wish I had the answer for him.
Great.
So Sly either risks the life of his mother or his ability to make a living.
American Dream.
Sly, for now: Wear a facemask around your mother. Always consider a possibility that you might be a symptomless carrier. Disinfect doorknobs etc. Don't give a damn about what others think, protect your health at work in any way you can. If you can't afford losing your job, do anything to protect your mother while keeping it!
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((( Hugs and foxies for Sly )))
That was all good advice from everyone. I hope your stupid boss closes that place before you need to decide.
I have no idea on Earth why guns are considered an essential service right now. ![]()
Your mother matters more. You know that. But being forced to choose, or called a pusssy for wearing gloves, is unacceptable. There must be a way you can lodge an anonymous complaint about that to .... someone in power? Keep records of all the bullying that has happened so far, and if more continues in the future should you go back.
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Apparently, in some places around the word, the economy is not to serve the people. Instead, the people are to serve the economy.
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People need their guns in case someone tries to steal their toilet paper.
Life without toiler paper is pretty sh***y.
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According to This PDF, the following professions are considered "essential" in California during the CoViD-19 outbreak:
• Workers providing CoViD-19 testing; Workers that perform critical clinical research needed for CoViD-19 response.
• Health care providers and caregivers (e.g., physicians, dentists, psychologists, mid-level practitioners, nurses and assistants, infection control and quality assurance personnel, pharmacists, physical and occupational therapists and assistants, social workers, speech pathologists and diagnostic and therapeutic technicians and technologists).
• Hospital and laboratory personnel (including accounting, administrative, admitting and discharge, engineering, epidemiological, source plasma and blood donation, food service, housekeeping, medical records, information technology and operational technology, nutritionists, sanitarians, respiratory therapists, etc.).
• Workers in other medical facilities (including Ambulatory Health and Surgical, Blood Banks, Clinics, Community Mental Health, Comprehensive Outpatient rehabilitation, End Stage Renal Disease, Health Departments, Home Health care, Hospices, Hospitals, Long Term Care, Organ Pharmacies, Procurement Organizations, Psychiatric, Residential, Rural Health Clinics and Federally Qualified Health Centers, cannabis retailers).
• Manufacturers, technicians, logistics and warehouse operators, and distributors of medical equipment, personal protective equipment (PPE), medical gases, pharmaceuticals, blood and blood products, vaccines, testing materials, laboratory supplies, cleaning, sanitizing, disinfecting or sterilization supplies, personal care/hygiene products, and tissue and paper towel products.
• Public health / community health workers, including those who compile, model, analyze and communicate public health information.
• Behavioral health workers (including mental and substance use disorder) responsible for coordination, outreach, engagement, and treatment to individuals in need of mental health and/or substance use disorder services.
• Blood and plasma donors and the employees of the organizations that operate and manage related activities.
• Workers that manage health plans, billing, and health information, who cannot practically work remotely.
• Workers who conduct community-based public health functions, conducting epidemiologic surveillance, compiling, analyzing and communicating public health information, who cannot practically work remotely.
• Workers who provide support to vulnerable populations to ensure their health and well-being including family care providers • Workers performing cybersecurity functions at healthcare and public health facilities, who cannot practically work remotely.
• Workers conducting research critical to CoViD-19 response.
• Workers performing security, incident management, and emergency operations functions at or on behalf of healthcare entities including healthcare coalitions, who cannot practically work remotely.
• Workers who support food, shelter, and social services, and other necessities of life for economically disadvantaged or otherwise needy individuals, such as those residing in shelters.
• Pharmacy employees necessary for filling prescriptions.
• Workers performing mortuary services, including funeral homes, crematoriums, and cemetery workers.
• Workers who coordinate with other organizations to ensure the proper recovery, handling, identification, transportation, tracking, storage, and disposal of human remains and personal effects; certify cause of death; and facilitate access to behavioral health services to the family members, responders, and survivors of an incident.
• Workers supporting veterinary hospitals and clinics.
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Are you sure that "selling guns and ammunition" isn't an essential service, or is that only in Oregon?
More hugs to Sly.
Illinois and newyork ruled It is essential, and I heard my work fought the shut down in other states and won. We use to sell dehydrated food for camping(it’s been gone for weeks)
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She closed everything but retail stores. f*****g lady doesn’t get it, people mass gather in retail, stores, unless it’s a grocery store it shouldn’t be opened.
https://govsite-assets.s3.amazonaws.com ... 020-12.pdf
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Sly,
See Page 5, Items 6, 7, and 8.
If your work doesn't implement those measures I will personally lodge a complaint so they will be closed. I'm on this.
In fact, I'm contacting the Governor's office now.
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Last edited by IsabellaLinton on 23 Mar 2020, 1:18 pm, edited 1 time in total.
See Page 5, Items 6, 7, and 8.
If your work doesn't implement those measures I will personally lodge a complaint so they will be closed. I'm on this.
They “already have”. Besides he hundreds of customers squeezed together in line to buy guns.
Our break room is rearranged so people sit further apart.
They argue they doing it even though they aren’t. Many other stores have marks down in ground but people don’t use them and ignore it and squeeze together in check out lines.
Anyone who reports violations will be fired, the customers all think this is fake so they won’t do social distancing
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