I wish I had a gun so I could shoot myself in the head

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31 Oct 2016, 5:23 am

I've had to go through severe depression many times throughout my life. In the end the only thing that helped me was ECT, or shock therapy. After several treatments and some time I began to feel better. Then whenever I felt bad again I would continue the treatments. It's not nearly as brutal as movies depict it to be, (One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest) for example. It may have some bad effects on your memory, but I think some memory problems is a small price to pay for feeling like crap all of the time. It's had a bad effect on my memory, but I'm very grateful I did it, for I used to feel depressed constantly, and after several ECT treatments and time, I began to feel better until the depression was gone. It doesn't work for everyone but it worked for me, and maybe you should try it if you've tried everything else.



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31 Oct 2016, 5:30 am

I've told the ECT thing to a few other posters who are not feeling good, and I plan to tell more. I'm just trying to help those in need, for I know how crappy depression can be.



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31 Oct 2016, 6:41 am

I have considered ECT. I'm glad it is working for you. I have a thread in General you may want to check out:

Shock Therapy for Autism



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31 Oct 2016, 6:51 am

TCMS is gentler.



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01 Nov 2016, 9:38 pm

they also have more targeted ECT now, unilateral and a certain type of current, fewer side effects.



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01 Nov 2016, 9:45 pm

cathylynn wrote:
they also have more targeted ECT now, unilateral and a certain type of current, fewer side effects.

how widespread is this new tech? is it considered "standard of care" now?



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02 Nov 2016, 11:29 am

http://academicdepartments.musc.edu/pr/ ... 13/ect.htm

http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/psychiat ... ation/ect/


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3513900/


apparently, it hasn't caught on everywhere yet, but you can get it at johns hopkins and likely some other university centers.



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02 Nov 2016, 3:18 pm

AFAIC the use of DC rather than AC is a plus. but where TCMS bests it is in its lack of need for anaesthesia during the procedure and the fact that TCMS can be done in an office setting, thus representing much less cost.



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02 Nov 2016, 3:25 pm

I really don't get why people have a problem with this. It is no more damaging than surgery and chemotherapy.



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02 Nov 2016, 3:57 pm

I see what you did there.



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02 Nov 2016, 5:43 pm

Adverse effects[edit]
Although TMS is generally regarded as safe, risks increase for therapeutic rTMS compared to single or paired TMS for diagnostic purposes.[16] In the field of therapeutic TMS, risks increase with higher frequencies.[7]

The greatest immediate risk is the rare occurrence of syncope (fainting) and even less commonly, induced seizures.[7][17]

Other adverse short-term effects of TMS include discomfort or pain, transient induction of hypomania, transient cognitive changes, transient hearing loss, transient impairment of working memory, and induced currents in electrical circuits in implanted devices.[7]



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02 Nov 2016, 5:48 pm

my shrink long ago told me about a GI who was depressed and shot himself in the head, and when he recovered the depression was gone AND his tested IQ was 30 points higher! :o I wonder what brain part the bullet changed?



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02 Nov 2016, 9:23 pm

i don't know how one could possibly raise one's IQ through brain injury, unless the depression was lowering the IQ, which is possible.

i got tired of scary hallucinations and being terrified all of the time, so i took a whole bottle of antipsychotics. i had a deep, long sleep, and woke up feeling better. glad, like 90% of suicide attempters, that i failed.



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02 Nov 2016, 9:32 pm

cathylynn wrote:
i don't know how one could possibly raise one's IQ through brain injury, unless the depression was lowering the IQ, which is possible.

i got tired of scary hallucinations and being terrified all of the time, so i took a whole bottle of antipsychotics. i had a deep, long sleep, and woke up feeling better. glad, like 90% of suicide attempters, that i failed.

i'm glad also :D did your scary hallucinations/terrors eventually resolve themselves? no dreams during?



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02 Nov 2016, 9:47 pm

it was like dreaming while awake. all i had to do was take my medicine religiously for that to completely stop.



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02 Nov 2016, 9:55 pm

that would indeed be scary to the max. I've had moments of non-lucidity that in retrospect were scary especially considering I hadn't a clue while it was happening. I have long had bizarre sleeping dreams, many of which I was glad I could awake from.