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05 May 2022, 11:23 pm

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You don't understand. I don't want to die because I hate myself. I want to die because I'm exhausted.

TY for clarifying, and I'm at least glad to hear it's not both.

Something I'm watching that bears relevance on some of the things we're discussing, Lex Fridman with David Buss (well-known evolutionary psychologist). Lex's meanderings are particularly interesting:



I love Lex Fridman's podcasts.



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05 May 2022, 11:37 pm

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But the "V" needs to be an attractive one.

Needs to be one he feels safe with and doesn't drain his will to live even more.

If he thinks he's tired / worn-out now, wait till the wrong woman gets a hold of him - worst of all worlds if she's also a 10.


Aspiring for a "10" when you are a "7" is simply a recipe for failure. 8)

They can also be pretty twisted even if you happened to be a 10 yourself.


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06 May 2022, 8:09 am

Another side note for what scares me about both life and death.

This guy's experience both sums up the thought that 'Source' is in control of every minute detail of existence, really the whole structure of hyperdeterminism. If you want to know how you could be as terrified of a truly all-loving entity as you could of an Abrahamic deity, it's that realization that said mind could show you an image of a given moment being 'perfect' in every minute detail:


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06 May 2022, 9:54 am

If it makes anyone feel better, this week I've had an in depth convo with one of my closest female friends. She's a 10 out of 10 and hasn't been laid in years by her boyfriend.

She wants to break up as a direct result but is torn as he's a nice guy.

And I was one to think she getting it every other night.



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06 May 2022, 11:21 am

She may want it, but not from someone like me.



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06 May 2022, 12:02 pm

I'm going to ask a question that might seem obnoxious but I think it's important.

Your curiosity.

You do a great job of giving exegetical breakdowns of political and cultural problems. That's something you do very well in PPR. You have to have some degree of curiosity to propel you to get a handle on those things in order to speak eloquently on them.

It seems, at least in this conversation, that the same curiosity wanes when it comes to exploring alternate ways of finding life-sustaining nourishment, at least beyond food, water, and paying bills, when it comes to the issue of relationships.

How aware of that are you and if you're highly aware of that - what killed your curiosity on that front?


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06 May 2022, 1:33 pm

I would say it's more a matter of self preservation than passing curiosity. I'm a white straight cisgender man. But I am also an autistic ex-Muslim atheist. That's three categories I fall into that face significant levels of discrimination and/or persecution, but remain largely unacknowledged by the Left.

As for exploring romance; I've already attempted all the different methods out, or at all the ones I can afford, and still failed at all of them. And frankly I'm just exhausted at this point.



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06 May 2022, 2:28 pm

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I would say it's more a matter of self preservation than passing curiosity. I'm a white straight cisgender man. But I am also an autistic ex-Muslim atheist. That's three categories I fall into that face significant levels of discrimination and/or persecution, but remain largely unacknowledged by the Left.

As for exploring romance; I've already attempted all the different methods out, or at all the ones I can afford, and still failed at all of them. And frankly I'm just exhausted at this point.

I typoed the above post it looks like.

Meant to ask - what happened to your curiosity with things non-political and non-relationship?


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06 May 2022, 2:34 pm

I acknowledge that there is discrimination all over the place.

The task of a person who feels discriminated against is to prove the "discriminator" wrong by not bowing down and giving up.

Giving up makes it seem like the "discriminator" is correct in his "discrimination."

Also, you can prove the "discriminator" wrong by always taking the "high road," and by achieving what you set out to achieve, despite the roadblocks which the "discriminator" places before you.



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06 May 2022, 5:01 pm

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Meant to ask - what happened to your curiosity with things non-political and non-relationship?


In a word: depression.



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06 May 2022, 5:27 pm

I see.

I used to have it but, it's gone.

I'm not sure what did it but I think it was some combination of the following:

1) eating and digesting the black pills (fixed the mismatch between expectations and reality).
2) both microdosing and macrodosing psychedelics, often, although these days I stick more to micro which I do a few times a week.


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06 May 2022, 5:44 pm

Still haven't received a pm to chat about exploring another option. Definitely have not exhausted that option yet - and I genuinely wish you would. Because.. what if ? What if trying different things you've yet to try results in a positive enough change that you opt to keep going ? Only one way to find out!


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06 May 2022, 8:35 pm

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I hope you have better luck soon.


I've had nothing but lousy luck my entire life. Why should that magically change now?

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Are you seeing this as something that 'should' happen and considering it a failure if or that it doesn't?

If that's the case - I get that this view gets pushed on us all the time by culture, or by people who can't come up with anything else creative to do in life, and then they extend it to how they treat people (as a status marker) to a degree when they run into people who don't. They either don't account for the dynamics or they don't want to (in that case the goal is to smash people on immutable characteristics).

It's still a mistake.


I am so fed the f**k up with this BS.

This isn't about what society is pushing on me. It's not about cultural expectations. This is about my desires and my needs. It's about what I want! I want to have satisfying sexual relationships with beautiful and interesting women. And because through neither choice nor fault of my own the universe arbitrarily chose me to be born different, that will never happen.

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Historically, particularly prior to monotheism and bans on polygamy, something like 50% of males didn't have children. Talking about other animal species, I can't remember which it was - sea lions or walruses - where the percent of males that don't procreate is in the 90% range. There was also a species of elk which went extinct because the females kept selecting for larger racks and eventually the males had 12 foot racks and couldn't make it through the forest.


So what's your point?

There are winners and there are losers. And I am one of the losers. Why do you think that will make me feel any better about myself?

Pepe wrote:
Lose weight.
Not rocket surgery. ;)


Losing weight will not reverse aging nor make me any less autistic.

Pepe wrote:

Bottom line is, that calling yourself a virgin is "Fake News".
Your cherry has been busted.
Time to move on. ;)


You're still missing the point. I may not qualify of a virgin because of a one-time fluke that was terrible. But that does not change the fact that woman has ever wanted anything to do with before nor in the 12 years since then. Why should that one lousy time make me feel any better about myself?

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Yup…yup…! Might not go to that same restaurant again…! Am hoping you do not base your life experience with women as a cause to leave this world , Same with steaks !


Life is hardship. Life is disappointment. Life is exhausting. Life is suffering. Life is busting my back day in and day out at soul-draining jobs I hate just earn the bare minimum to technically survive another month at a time while my health steadily deteriorates as entropy slowly eats away at me and I have absolutely nothing to show for any of it.

"All my life I've watched others more beautiful and blessed. Life favors some and ignores others. But our respective standings are irrelevant when it comes to death. In death we are all equal. We are all silent and cold." -excerpt from Blackest Night

Instead of asking what's so terrible its worth dying over, you should ask me what's so great that it makes all the agony of life worth enduring.

I think sex, love, loneliness are different issues and concepts.
In your life there's much more than these that's going on and create hardship for you, it's not like you want kitty or you'll suicide.
I think sex is not that important to health and living quality. It's not healthy thinking. Also sex doesn't cure depression and first times it's not good. If you're overweight it's almost impossible to find a position that works. Lack of ability because of erectile dysfunction. It's much different from masturbating, sensistivity etc. Risks for disease and pregnancy, or not being connected to the person enough, building enough emotional energy before giving it.
Are you saying I was the only woman in the world who used to hit on you when I was poly? Where is my "thank you" for that? :lol: Kidding.


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06 May 2022, 11:38 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
I'm going to ask a question that might seem obnoxious but I think it's important.

Your curiosity.

You do a great job of giving exegetical breakdowns of political and cultural problems. That's something you do very well in PPR. You have to have some degree of curiosity to propel you to get a handle on those things in order to speak eloquently on them.

It seems, at least in this conversation, that the same curiosity wanes when it comes to exploring alternate ways of finding life-sustaining nourishment, at least beyond food, water, and paying bills, when it comes to the issue of relationships.

How aware of that are you and if you're highly aware of that - what killed your curiosity on that front?


If I may intervene.
As I have mentioned elsewhere, emotional needs have overwhelmed intellectual problem solving, is my best guess.



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06 May 2022, 11:41 pm

dorkseid wrote:
techstepgenr8tion wrote:

Meant to ask - what happened to your curiosity with things non-political and non-relationship?


In a word: depression.


Overwhelmed by emotional aspects of life.



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06 May 2022, 11:44 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
I see.

I used to have it but, it's gone.

I'm not sure what did it but I think it was some combination of the following:

1) eating and digesting the black pills (fixed the mismatch between expectations and reality).
2) both microdosing and macrodosing psychedelics, often, although these days I stick more to micro which I do a few times a week.


Externalising the suppressed internal anger helped me, in addition to removing stimulants such as caffeine in my diet.