Are people with Aspergers more likely to commit suicide?

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09 May 2012, 6:12 pm

Speaking for myself I have been suicidal since I was 12. I remember asking my mother even, "if I killed myself would it affect you badly?" and funny enough she replied "yes, but I would get over it".
I used to be a member of ASH (alt.suicide.holiday) for years, you could say that suicide methods were a special subject of mine, I know of tons of them, height and weight ratios for jumping, poisons and how they work, medical ways, suicide by cop, the thousand cuts and many many more. lol I am a walking suicide encyclopedia.
Has anybody seen the documentary The Bridge? It's available on youtube. It's people committing suicide jumping off Golden Gate Bridge.
I am even considering suicide today, my life is hell, no job, no friends, no money, no boyfriend, nothing. Everything I do is wrong. Everything!!
My mother pays my rent and she says she can't keep paying it, and I don't want her paying it anyway. I don't mean I want to kill myself today, I mean, I am thinking about it a lot today again.
In a way I should do it in order to gain some dignity, like how people in Japan committ Harakiri, to save face. Apparently in old Japan women would kill themselves by biting their tongues!! ouch! I guess they bled to death that way. Anyway don't get me started or I will start passionately typing about suicide on here and it would be a very lengthy post.
Oh and also, haha, I can't stop now, watching Jeb Corliss free jumping with his squirrel suit (he is my new obsession), has made me feel stronger, and less fearful about such matters. In theory he committs suicide for a living, they way he keeps jumping into the void from tops of mountains, the eiffel tower, golden gate bridge, hotel rooms etc OK I will shut up now lol



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09 May 2012, 6:20 pm

I believe it's more to do with thinking of suicide rather than actually going through with it.
Most of which can be the cause of abuse, trauma, depression and plenty of other emotions I did not mention.


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09 May 2012, 11:32 pm

I've been dead by my own hands. I washed down 48 sleeping pills with beer back in 1992. I was 30 at the time and was wondering how I even made it to 30. I feel really really bad when I read about being suicide, or people attempting suicide, or people even contemplating it. I spent two months in a psych hospital after that. The world kept on turning and it didn't matter one ounce that I'd try to take myself out. Yeah, we're all gonna die anyway. There's no rush. Sometimes - actually, ALL the time - I wish I had the magic words that would keep someone from leaping off a bridge. There are no magic words, no saving grace. I sure as hell don't want to be that guy standing on the edge again. I could only hope othes take my lead.



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10 May 2012, 1:50 am

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I think I remember reading about her suicide, she used the bag method.

gosh :o where did you find that out?



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10 May 2012, 1:58 am

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I spent two months in a psych hospital after that.

would you be willing to describe what the experience of being in a mental hospital was for you? the closest i came to that was that when i was in the army one of my jobs was to accompany/monitor pregnant patients who were kept on the psych ward, i was locked in that particular room with the patient until the end of my shift. when i was much younger i used to believe that the only proper place for one such as myself, was in the psych hospital, i felt totally out of place in the world at large. i felt more often than not, that the positions should've been switched, that I shoulda been the patient locked inside.



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10 May 2012, 9:07 am

I saw that documentary, The Bridge that was mentioned by Suspie, that documentary is a personal favorite of mine, I just hope that those people got knocked unconscious when they hit the water rather than suffer extreme physical pain until they finally passed.

What's sad is that they never found the bodies of some of the jumpers. :(

I'm not sure if I replied to the Original question asked in this thread or not (I forgot).

But I would say yes, lack of friends or a S/O, being called a creep, the R word, terrible social skills, AS usually brings Anxiety & Depression along with it, trouble finding employment, trouble getting on SSI/disability, etc who would want to live with having to deal with all that Negativity?

Its very hard to survive in this world without good social skills, it sucks.



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10 May 2012, 11:01 am

Hm. Well...

...you're isolated, you spend a lot of time getting kicked, you have a hard time relating to the majority of people...

...and when you ask for help to figure out why, people tell you that it's your fault for being yourself, that you're stupid and lazy and weak, or that you have this condition-- this disorder-- that means you have to not only learn to suppress who you are but also accept living a life of pretty severe other-imposed limitations (that may or may not be the limits of your abilities).

And if you don't accept that, they'll be happy to drug you until they prove it's true.

Hm.

Would an Aspie be more likely than the average person to commit suicide??

Can't imagine why!! ! :evil:

(By the way, sarcasm is not within the limits of an Aspie's capabilities!! !)

Yes, the preceding two statements are, indeed, sarcastic. I learned it late, but I love it so.


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10 May 2012, 11:41 pm

auntblabby wrote:
Suspie wrote:
I think I remember reading about her suicide, she used the bag method.

gosh :o where did you find that out?


I don't recall where I read it, some article saying something about her being asphyxiated w/ bag over her head. that's the "bag method". I can explain if curious.



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11 May 2012, 2:47 am

Suspie wrote:
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Suspie wrote:
I think I remember reading about her suicide, she used the bag method.

gosh :o where did you find that out?


I don't recall where I read it, some article saying something about her being asphyxiated w/ bag over her head. that's the "bag method". I can explain if curious.

if it came to be my time, i'd much prefer the hibachi method.



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11 May 2012, 3:40 am

Sad to say, my suicide attempt 20 years ago involved 48 sleeping pills and beer. I was living in a seaside motel at the time. Had I been where I am now I would've surely died. Around here we have train tracks and high bridges. As a matter of fact, the third most popular bridge in the U.S. for committing suicide is about two miles from here. I remember every day of my two month stay in the psych hospital like it was yesterday. It was a locked unit and we all slept in one large room with people watching us 24 hours a day. In the day time we were all in a large room, again being observed. I stayed to myself. They eventually trusted me enough to give me a notebook and pen so I wrote a collection of fairy tales while I was there. I wrote 32 stories but only 28 were keepers. They thought I was autistic so they transferred me to a unit with other autistic people. Unfortunately, these other people had severe learning disabilities so it wasn't appropriate for me. I "hinted" that I was still feeling suicidal so they put me back into general population.

Kinda funny now. I still think about suicide every so often. I guess it's something that never leaves you. Those train tracks are near my house though, so if there was a next time it'd be permanent. Let's hope not.



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11 May 2012, 3:58 am

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Kinda funny now. I still think about suicide every so often. I guess it's something that never leaves you. Those train tracks are near my house though, so if there was a next time it'd be permanent. Let's hope not.

indulge me with a thought experiment, will you? what if you knew for a fact that if you did yourself in, that you'd find yourself first in a nasty place for a while, and then right back into a similiar [but even worse] lifetime as the one you prematurely left behind? would you still be willing to leave your present life travails behind or would you rather just slog through them and get them the hell well over and done with, never to return? i know which one i'd choose. even if one didn't know what lay beyond, would one prudently wish to chance it not knowing what one was in for, just beyond the bend? i mention taking chances because when i was young, i thought that homelessness and perpetual un/underemployment was hell on earth, so i did a stupid thing and signed on the dotted line [joined the mean green machine] and found out what real hell on earth was. i went in a matter of days, from a taste of hell to a heapin' helpin' of the stuff. i mention the army because IMHO committing hari kari is akin to going AWOL from the military, IOW one takes the chance that one will be caught and returned to worse circumstances than before one prematurely left. end of sermon. :oops:



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12 May 2012, 1:13 pm

I think, out of the Aspie population, that those who come from families where everyone is NT, are more likely to commit suicide, because seeing everyone else (all your siblings and cousins, especially if they are younger than you are) succeed in life makes you feel even more worthless and socially isolated. I'm not saying all my cousins are doing well and have better lives than me because they don't, but they're not highly anxious like I am, they're not angry with themselves, they're not depressed, they have more chance of finding a relationship than I have, and they all have more friends than I do and have more social confidence, even if they are shy. And there's me: a target for bullies, a mug, very obsessive, do weird things then regret it afterwards, and I alienate myself because of social fear.

Yes I know I've got to stop worrying about what my cousins are doing, but at the moment I am going through this phase, and I am trying to have nothing to do with them so that I don't think about them and dwell on anything, but their parents come round mine to see my mum and they talk about what they're doing with their social lives and so I still can never get away from hearing their pathetic little social lives being broadcasted.

If my fear of death didn't get in the way, I would commit suicide. But I believe in coming back as somebody else after you die, and I'm scared of who I'm going to come back as, so I won't do it, and anyway, I don't have the guts to kill myself.

It'd be nice to know who I will come back as. Hopefully I will be a really confident NT next time, but I bet I won't be. I'd probably come back as a starving child in Africa, or some rich child but born with Cerebral Palsy or something unlucky like that.


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12 May 2012, 5:51 pm

I certainly feel like giving up tonight. Too many misunderstandings for one evening. T-T



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12 May 2012, 5:52 pm

I certainly feel like giving up tonight. Too many misunderstandings for one evening. T-T



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12 May 2012, 6:02 pm

auntblabby wrote:
Suspie wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
Suspie wrote:
I think I remember reading about her suicide, she used the bag method.

gosh :o where did you find that out?


I don't recall where I read it, some article saying something about her being asphyxiated w/ bag over her head. that's the "bag method". I can explain if curious.

if it came to be my time, i'd much prefer the hibachi method.


Oh I wasn't offering to explain it so you can use it on yourself, just to see how that lady died.
I could say something about the hibachi method, but I am not sure we can talk about these things here, is it? Can we openly discuss suicide methods in detail? Mine would be a heroin overdose btw



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12 May 2012, 6:04 pm

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I certainly feel like giving up tonight. Too many misunderstandings for one evening. T-T

oh misunderstandings are an "occupational hazard"! ! my whole life is a misundestanding... I try to see the funny side of it. I hope your anguish goes away, or has already gone away and you are feeling better.