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11 Nov 2009, 3:36 pm

I was just recently reading about sexual harassment. This seems like incompetent sexual harassment. I remembered i did not tell - in the bus he also told me that he is trying to manipulate me to get me. It sounded weird that he told this directly to me. He might think that i am easily used, because i do not speak to anyone(except teachers and if someone asks me something important that i know of). He thinks that he can manipulate me? Well, he hasn't done it yet. Only told me that he wants to and it sounded aggressive to me. Kinda pointless anyway. I am the kind of a person who easily detects manipulating. I am also being alone all the time so i do not have some need to go with people(hanging around, smoking, chilling etc.) . I do not trust people easily. Impossible for him to succeed with this on me.

Right now it feels and seems that i can never get rid of him harassing me. I am afraid that he doesn't want to stop. He seems to be going worse with his words about me, so it cannot mean any good. Seems like it has no end. :(

I can say that this harassment stuff does bother me a lot. But i have seen people(TV) get really scared and even crying. I do not cry. I haven't been sad in a long time. Anger is taking over. 8O

It would be REALLY SCARY if the harassing guy would be taller than me and stronger looking. Thank god he seems physically harmless. Especially with his small hands. But i cannot underestimate him.. must be prepared for anything...



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11 Nov 2009, 4:41 pm

Now you know for sure he's just doing it to be an a**hole. Next time you see him, let him know that if he touches you or bothers you in any way, you'll beat the s**t outta him. That's not enough though... make sure you actually smash him if he wants to try you.

Don't worry about underestimating him. Get him in the jaw, chin, liver, and solar plexus. Liver shots feel like a kick to the balls (literally) and a shot to the solar plexus knocks the wind outta you. No explanation needed for the jaw and chin. If you don't wanna smash him, give him a decent shot to the liver as a warning shot.



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11 Nov 2009, 4:51 pm

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I was just recently reading about sexual harassment. This seems like incompetent sexual harassment. I remembered i did not tell - in the bus he also told me that he is trying to manipulate me to get me. It sounded weird that he told this directly to me. He might think that i am easily used, because i do not speak to anyone(except teachers and if someone asks me something important that i know of). He thinks that he can manipulate me? Well, he hasn't done it yet. Only told me that he wants to and it sounded aggressive to me. Kinda pointless anyway. I am the kind of a person who easily detects manipulating. I am also being alone all the time so i do not have some need to go with people(hanging around, smoking, chilling etc.) . I do not trust people easily. Impossible for him to succeed with this on me.

Right now it feels and seems that i can never get rid of him harassing me. I am afraid that he doesn't want to stop. He seems to be going worse with his words about me, so it cannot mean any good. Seems like it has no end. :(

I can say that this harassment stuff does bother me a lot. But i have seen people(TV) get really scared and even crying. I do not cry. I haven't been sad in a long time. Anger is taking over. 8O

It would be REALLY SCARY if the harassing guy would be taller than me and stronger looking. Thank god he seems physically harmless. Especially with his small hands. But i cannot underestimate him.. must be prepared for anything...


I agree with you, we seem to have the same mind set, I have a BS detector as well and I can read between peoples words and know what they really want so I can't be fooled very easily. And I don't get sad when intense things like this happen I just get incredibly angry. But I'm a guy and I'm tall and look strong so I have always been able to defend myself even if it was frightening.

If there is one thing I learned confronting those who were mean to me (all sizes and ages) is that exterior looks like size and body language may not be the same as what's going on inside, so i think it's right of you to not underestimate him just because he looks wimpy. But I can believe it's a huge strain on the mind having to spend time to worry about really unfortunate and stupid things like this. I've learned and had it confirmed that it doesn't matter what size you are, I ones scared away a mountain of a guy who was on me, and I noticed quick that it is not about how you see them but how they see you. I'm very kind and calm but I know and I must muster and show some external signs of disapproval and aggressiveness even if it's totally out of character for me. But sadly it's the only thing that helps against people, you send a message "do not f**k with me" and they will learn.
(Man I hate people...)

Hope things get better though.



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11 Nov 2009, 10:29 pm

I desperately want to fly over there, grab your school administrators by the ears, and force them to take care of this NOW. Not gradually, not eventually, not when convenient, but NOW.

If you can stand to do this, can you write written reports of every incident? There's a fair bit you've typed here to use as a start. Print them, sign them, and date them, several copies of each, and do this every time he comes near you. Tell your school you are doing this. They'll know that means you have documentation for legal action if they don't get off their hind ends already and take care of this.



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12 Nov 2009, 1:08 am

Years ago when i was bullied at school, i never had been aggressive against the bullies. I have always taken everything inside. So i got extremely introverted and kinda depressed. I have never been sexually harassed before. I know this is wrong to take it inside. Normally people would fight back somehow. I do not have the dare to.

Sorry. I do not want to beat the s**t out of him, not in the real life. I'd probably get in trouble myself.
There has been a situation in my life when i was extremely in rage. It was for one night only. I almost went to kick the sh*t out of my .. sister(she hadn't done anything). She asked with serious face "what is wrong with you?" So i tried to ignore my huge anger and went to sleep. I was so angry that i almost didn't have control over myself. The next day i was to my sister "what was going on? I wanted to kick you? Ho*y s*it!"

Dam, this stuff makes me mad. Makes me mad against him and myself. (unfortunately not as mad as needed to kick the sh*t out people)

Can't go to school again. I'd get very anxious if i see the bus. Cant even step out of my door knowing that the world is full of this kind of bastards.. even worse ones. I feel disgusted.

I think it is the schools problem to deal with that he is harassing me. But they are pushing it on my shoulders, telling that they'll only help. like it is my fault. I haven't done anything to him to start sexually harassing me. Like, "sorry that i exist".


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I desperately want to fly over there, grab your school administrators by the ears, and force them to take care of this NOW. Not gradually, not eventually, not when convenient, but NOW.

- i have thought the same thing about their "taking care" stuff. I sure think these things must be taken care of right NOW!! :) Unfortunately i do not understand what is going on inside their heads. They probably haven't been sexually harassed themselves, so they do not know how to deal with it. They do not seem to take this with pure seriousness.



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12 Nov 2009, 8:39 am

skonamis wrote:
Years ago when i was bullied at school, i never had been aggressive against the bullies. I have always taken everything inside. So i got extremely introverted and kinda depressed. I have never been sexually harassed before. I know this is wrong to take it inside. Normally people would fight back somehow. I do not have the dare to.


There is no wrong response to the terrifying harassment this guy is doing -- you can't respond "wrong", because you're not doing anything. You're just existing, peacefully, minding your own business. There is no wrong there.

Try to be nice to yourself about freezing -- it happens to everyone at times. You can train a soldier for combat for years or decades, and they'll still sometimes freeze under sexual harassment that takes them too much by surprise.

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Sorry. I do not want to beat the sh** out of him, not in the real life. I'd probably get in trouble myself.
There has been a situation in my life when i was extremely in rage. It was for one night only. I almost went to kick the sh*t out of my .. sister(she hadn't done anything). She asked with serious face "what is wrong with you?" So i tried to ignore my huge anger and went to sleep. I was so angry that i almost didn't have control over myself. The next day i was to my sister "what was going on? I wanted to kick you? Ho*y s*it!"


This is a very sophisticated response on your part. It means you have a high conscience since you don't want to let yourself go anywhere near that kind of rage again until you know you can control it and not harm innocents. Good for you.

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Can't go to school again. I'd get very anxious if i see the bus. Cant even step out of my door knowing that the world is full of this kind of bastards.. even worse ones. I feel disgusted.


If you've taken a day or more off school, I'm very glad to hear it. This kind of strain can't be good for your health, and no one should have to endure it.

Some days I don't know how to live with the knowledge that the world is full of these guys either.

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I think it is the schools problem to deal with that he is harassing me. But they are pushing it on my shoulders, telling that they'll only help. like it is my fault. I haven't done anything to him to start sexually harassing me. Like, "sorry that i exist".


That's a perfect summation.

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They do not seem to take this with pure seriousness.


In my opinion you shouldn't have go to school again until they do. I just don't have the words for how disgusted I am with them.



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12 Nov 2009, 10:57 am

I will go to school tomorrow. I was supposed to talk to my psychologist again. They promised to look into this and check the possibilities how to get him stop harassing me. If i will hear they still want ME to talk to him, then i do not know what will be next. It feels like i would rather die than speak to him for the first time. I am not some professional "knowing mentally ret*d people" person.
Must push myself on the bus tomorrow, at a different time of course, i do not want to see his face on the bus. If i see him then i feel like having a heart attack, i get so anxious. And anger too.. i read on the internet that anger or even rage is bad for health especially heart. Teacher is probably going to ask why i did not go to school for two days, "oh, really. So hard to figure out!". Maybe she wont be that dumb anyways.

Tomorrow i will see how serious they really are about this!

Otherwise i would be without a future and might fall into my depressive black hole again. I am already starting to loose school interest again :/ dam.. i was doing so well.. except the social part of course.

But we'll see 8)



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12 Nov 2009, 11:27 pm

I hope you're doing ok. I'm about to go get some sleep, but I'll check in for updates in the morning. Take care.



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12 Nov 2009, 11:35 pm

It is morning here now and i am feeling so anxious that i shake and i hope i wont throw up. Must get going soon.



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13 Nov 2009, 12:47 am

skonamis wrote:
I will go to school tomorrow. I was supposed to talk to my psychologist again. They promised to look into this and check the possibilities how to get him stop harassing me. If i will hear they still want ME to talk to him, then i do not know what will be next. It feels like i would rather die than speak to him for the first time. I am not some professional "knowing mentally ret*d people" person.
Must push myself on the bus tomorrow, at a different time of course, i do not want to see his face on the bus. If i see him then i feel like having a heart attack, i get so anxious. And anger too.. i read on the internet that anger or even rage is bad for health especially heart. Teacher is probably going to ask why i did not go to school for two days, "oh, really. So hard to figure out!". Maybe she wont be that dumb anyways.

Tomorrow i will see how serious they really are about this!

Otherwise i would be without a future and might fall into my depressive black hole again. I am already starting to loose school interest again :/ dam.. i was doing so well.. except the social part of course.

But we'll see 8)



You're not suppose to talk to him even when asked to do so to settle the matter, it is just a lazy solution by the imbecile adults running the whole show.
In other words it is in your TOTAL right not to speak to this person and the adult ones should deal with this matter.
Don't try to think about it a lot, it will only make you angry and yes it is bad for the heart. I had a period where I was upset for a very long time, and being the extremely introverted type as I am i kept it all inside and it was eating away at me and I was getting chest pains and I had to go see a doctor because my heart started beating extremely fast, like scary fast and it would last over a very long period of time so it was very dangerous.

And jeah, wouldn't surprise me if they ask you where you have been, they are stupid like that. You can't really blame them just feel sorry for them.
And stay sharp because this kiddo is going to ruin your mood and that will (if you take it all in to much) ruin your mood and that will send you into a darker place then you need to be in and you'll lose focus and the willpower to go do things, especially school.
I guess you're like me, very delicate kind, never screams, never fights, never does anything explosive.
If you don't vent in any form then you must learn to vent here to us or mentally and learn that what you're doing is right, going to school is good, and what that kid is doing is just ... odd and creepy.

I bet people here would help out in real life and if they knew about your situation and the location where it was taking place, but sadly we can only help you here and fuel you.
Like going to a club with a couple of friends and you see a cute girl, you might have arrived with support and in a group where you feel safe but when it comes down to it and you go to confront the girl you go in alone. :)

Stay frosty. :wink:


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13 Nov 2009, 7:07 am

So i went to school. I was very anxious all the time. I went to school with the later bus so i would be late to the first lesson, but i didn't care as long as that guy wasn't in the bus. I also went to psychologist. As i almost told her my whole life story she still told me that i am the one who must tell him to stop. Jeez, i then got kind of mad inside. They are good to me, but they seem to not know much about this stuff. They do not realize how serious this might get. They haven't even told me if they have talked to that guy or not. I guess not. Witch makes me even more mad and disappointed.

later i realized that they might be right. Maybe i really need to "grow up" and learn how to stand up for myself. But then again, no. I just cant. It is too difficult for me to bear. I am already feeling like i will die in my anxiety. Sometimes i feel like i will pass out. So what if i pass out when talking to him? They are like wanting me to tell him, without caring for my mental health.

One of my teachers wanted me to get my USB flash drive so he could copy my homework on it. I told the teacher that i forgot my flash drive in the other classroom so i needed to get it. I went out of the class to get it and i saw that harassing guy again. He was watching me. I went past him ignoring him as i always do but he still kept looking me. I got so scared and anxious that i did not get my USB flash drive, but also decided to ignore the teacher and not bring him my flash drive because that creep was in the corridor. So i decided to stay in the other classroom. My classmates were also there. Do not know what happened, but the teacher came to me and he was like he had to come to me and get it himself. He was like understanding me somehow. Maybe he thought that i got scared of the people that were going to his class so he decided to come to me. I then felt kind of bad, because he is walking with a crutch.

It was so hard for me to go to school this day and even seeing that guy again. I can rest a bit in the weekend, but the next week is going to be hell for me, i just know it. I am so scared to go to the school again.
Things seem to be hopeless. I cannot concentrate on school when i have this extremely disturbing case on my shoulders.

I am disgusted to go to that school. Looks like i need to ignore that school and fall into the depressing dark place again. Without hope or any light. Life is b*tch. :pale:



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13 Nov 2009, 7:17 am

I am so, so sorry this is happening to you and that your school isn't taking care of this. I really admire your courage in how you handled yourself today. You did a great job.

Do you live with your parents? Are they likely to help, if you ask them, in getting the school to actually take action and get this taken care of?



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13 Nov 2009, 7:34 am

I wonder why they think it is appropriate only for you to tell him, rather than them having a word with him. I kind of expect that sort of thing from my generation of school where being bullied was your fault, not a special school.

Have you talked you parents about it? Maybe they could talk to his parents.



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13 Nov 2009, 7:47 am

0_equals_true wrote:
I wonder why they think it is appropriate only for you to tell him, rather than them having a word with him. I kind of expect that sort of thing from my generation of school where being bullied was your fault, not a special school.

Have you talked you parents about it? Maybe they could talk to his parents.


very good suggestion



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13 Nov 2009, 9:14 am

aww.. parents again. Everyone has a nice family to grab when the trouble comes. But the reason is that i do not have one. They are living 150 km away in the childhood town. Mother is poor and had a hard life herself. Father and mother have been divorced for 9 years now. Father has a new family and 2 new kids. They sure cannot help from such a distance being poor also. They sure are not confident or knowing enough to deal with such things anyway.

Second would be grandparents.. haha. I'd never trust them. They were the reason why my mother is screwed and divorced. They gave me the history with verbal abuse.

And third,.. well my aunt?(living at her place) I do not want to tell her because she always overreacts on such things. She starts asking embarassing stuff and gets crazy allover. And she would probably ask me if the school is helping. And if not then she would be like "aww.. happens. u get over it"

Seems like i am on my own.



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13 Nov 2009, 10:25 am

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I swear, you're like a girl version of me. My family is and was as useless as yours (parents divorced when 3, not much money people were always emotionally unstable) when I was in your age, I've always been on my own. That's why you need to toughen up a little, NOT "grow up", but say enough is enough when it makes you feel bad. You'll see people will back off.

You'll learn to cope, we are the survival type.
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