Can someone explain why people want to have children?
People want to have children I think because it's the norm. You meet someone and you want a family. My cousin enjoys being a mom. She is an NT though. I'm just few years younger than her, but I never thought about wanting to have a child. I did babysit children when I was in high school, but didn't have the patience at all. Still I don't have patience at all. I can't conceive a child anyways because of a medical condition which would make it extremely painful.
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Biological imperative. New humans are neccessary for our species to survive.
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Why is it necessary for *our* species to survive? This is a particularly relevant question right now as although estimates very, it seems the survival of our species is costing the destruction of many others, 50 a day or so.
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Why is it necessary for *our* species to survive? This is a particularly relevant question right now as although estimates very, it seems the survival of our species is costing the destruction of many others, 50 a day or so.
I didn't say that our species needed to survive.
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Music Theory 101: Cadences.
Authentic cadence: V-I
Plagal cadence: IV-I
Deceptive cadence: V- ANYTHING BUT I ! !! !
Beethoven cadence: V-I-V-I-V-V-V-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I
-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I! I! I! I I I
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Yes, I know
Maybe the answer is in that infamous book "The Selfish Dawk" by Richard Genekins.
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Circular logic is correct because it is.
Yes, I know
Maybe the answer is in that infamous book "The Selfish Dawk" by Richard Genekins.
exactly
I think the answer is simple, people want to have kids because the ones that didn't want them somehow managed to avoid having them and mostly went extinct :p
presonally, I'm too rational to have them. there's simply no good, logical reason to have one of those. I do realise that by the time I'm 30-something my body might try to trick me into having them is some way or another, but I'm sure my rational mind will win this battle.
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its very logical that people want to have children. if people dont want to have children that kind of people dont have children and die out. so folowing from this every person that hasnt died out or isnt doomed to die out has children. it might seem impractical having children but the urge to have them is only natural.
I don't want kids. I like my life how it is. Having a child involved would disrupt the environment I've created for myself. If I had kids, how can I pursue what I want to? So much of my time would have to be invested in them. Plus, I'd be a terrible parent. I think of all the things my parents had to do while parenting, and frankly, I don't want nothing to do with it.
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I like children, I like introducing them to new things, reading to them, teaching them stuff when they're interested. But lately, the following scenario pops into my head and I hate it:
An NT child who takes advantage of my AS, is rude, scornful, hurtful, and would basically make me think that I'm back in junior high, except I'm being tormented by my own kid. THAT would render me a woman with nothing left to lose, which means I become a very dangerous person. Junior high was a horrible experience, and for it to come full circle like that would take away my will to live.
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breeding spreads the virus that is humanity
lol
...but seriously, i have said it before and i will say it again; humans breed with seemingly little concern for the impact that we have on the environment in our immediate vicinity and for the earth as a whole. people need to better consider their immediate and long term responsibility over and above the crazy notion that it is our right to breed as much as we can - and the even wackier (read: selfish) idea that if we cannot afford to do so we can go ahead because someone else will pick up the tab for us.
it is not just the generation that we bring into the world that will have a great impact, but every child that is conceived by them and following generations and so on. every single individual consumes petrochemicals in the form of wrapping/packaging, synthetic materials for clothing, plastics, fuel for heating, fuel for transport... crops for food and textiles, livestock for meat and leather products... and so on. we are the greatest consumers on the planet, more people means more consumption, more pollution, more deforestation, more extinction.
the earth is a closed system with limited resources, we are the most technologically advanced species on the planet and it is our responsibility to act as custodians - to protect the world and the environment for every living creature, this means birth control as much as it does reducing the soot that billows from smoke stacks and from truck exhausts. it is not so much curbing breeding on a whim as it is making an important and conscious decision to contribute to our continued co-existence with all other life on the planet.
that is why i have no intention of fathering any children... that and the fact that fatherhood is not something that seems within the realms of possibility in my mind... it's not something that i desire, and not a concept i feel terribly comfortable with.
on a more personal note; fatherhood would mean massive disrupting change in my life, incredible responsibility (emotional and physical) that i am not prepared for, and increased potential for hurt and loss - two things that i do not cope particularly well with or understand.
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I totally agree! Especially that 'crazy notion' that we have some 'right' to have children. It is believed that many of our negative behaviours are due to overpopulation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behavioral_sink . The biggest threat to our survival as a species nay well be overpopulation, as other problems such as global disease and even war, result from overpopulation.
It just seems obvious that beyond a certain point, as the quantity of human life increases, the quality will decrease. All depends where that 'certain point' is. I would guess it would be the point where there is no land available without taking it off someone else. So we have passed it in the last few hundred years as last time I looked, there was no free, habitable land.
There's a Catch 22 here in that if you have considered seriously, as you have, the impact of children and decided it's not for you, then you may make a better parent than someone who never thought about it and had them without thinking!
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1. Cost a ton of money to raise, all your money is going to by stuff for them.
2. You have to spend a ton of time with them. So in addition to your money going down the toilet, so does your free time.
3. I feel that kids will never apprecate what you do for them.
So can anyone tell me why anyone in there right mind would want to have a child and have all there time and money go to a kid that will not love you back? I never had a sense of family to my mom or anything like. I fell like she did things for me not out of love but because she is my mom and a social obligation. I know I would feel the same way if I had children.
The only reason to have children is for the survival of the human race. Having kids are not for everyone. But it seems many people want them. I don't see why.
I'm not sure this is the right place for this thread. If not move it please.
I agree with everything you've said EXCEPT "A kid that will not love you back", tbh, that is a stupid statement. Majority of kids do love you back.
Also its easy for people without children to say they don't want them. I don't want them at ALL because of the time and oney down the toilet for an already over populated world. But if a baby randomly popped out of me, I would love it unconditionally and make it my life most likely.
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