"Sociopath is someone who rejects societal norms"?

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The people that got in OPs face and called him a sociopath, just because they don't do things their way! Hence "social cattle". People that think every human is supposed to be one way and never the other. Cattle live as a big group, doing the same things, and just that.



OPs two fellows being jerks kind of diserve that label a little so.. to bad.

Yes, on the grounds that it's demeaning to actual cattle!


Dilbert, you have summed up hyper-NTs perfectly! It's distressing to see that commonly considered "normal", whilst it's deemed OK to demonise anyone who "keeps to themself", or is "too introspective", for instance. Everyone loves a glad-handing blowhard who likes to make it sound like they know what they're talking about, and meanwhile treats anyone who talks in a logical manner containing actual facts as a sideshow freak. ([Patronising tone] "Oh, you're so smart"... "You seem to know a lot of facts and figures", yada yada yada. Might as well pat you on the head at the same time.)

No, sociopaths are people who disregard the rights of individuals other than themselves. You have to understand though, and I'm all to familiar, unfortunately...

To people of the right-wing fundamentalist ilk, morality isn't derived from a respect for the rights and well-being of other individuals, the golden-rule, etc... No, morality flows directly down through blind obedience to some kind of authority figure/object, be it god, the bible, arbitrary words scribbled by primitive goat herders, etc. If god tells you it's okay to beat your wife then you can beat your wife and have a perfectly clean conscience about it. Same goes for stoning an adulterer to death, killing your own daughter to preserve the family "honor", etc. According to the bible all of these acts are morally legitimate.

It makes me wonder if fundamentalists aren't the true sociopaths.

Only a sociopath would believe that human beings will disregard all ethical concern for the well-being of other individuals when a god isn't standing over us with his boot on our throat. If everyone was a sociopath then morality would be nothing more than some arbitrary rules, force-fed to society with carrots and sticks. Thankfully that isn't how the real world really operates. It really makes me wonder though.

Have you heard of "act as" metaphoric representation of something? Apparently, my attempts these days to make ANYONE feel better, plus not being perfect enough on your language terms equates the need to 'correct" what I see as you picture nothing but a "smart ass/bigot" in me. Now that you all have your shot, feel free to leave me be.

Formal definitions be damned. If someone doesn't like you, or your viewpoints, you're often a Nazi, a socialist, communist, sociopath, and a number of other names. If they can't fit you into their definition through some jumps in logic, they'll change the entire definition to fit you in it.

Some people need to be smacked upside the head with a ruler, and sent back to elementary school English.

Yeah, I have had it leveled at me already. It even got to the point where I could have had the whole APD diagnosis on top of my AS and AD/HD :/

I can see why though... let see....

I am somewhat actively antisocial what with my true hatred for society and the fact i just push people away when needed. Charming/Apealling,I dunno about, but I do tend to just grab peoples attention in that sort of way for now reason, usually with women. (still cant figure out why I dont have a GF though :/)
Disruptive/Destructiveness is a definite admittance from me however. Chaos can be so entertaining. Plant the seeds of chaos so to speak and you can entertain yourself for hours. As for destructive tendencies I often get the idea, even proceed to go do what i will do, but I still wont do it unless ive been in rage mode.


as for the actual symptoms for the real APD syndrom, I can definately say the following.

-Apparent lack of remorse or empathy for others. (I can honestly say why the hell should I feel these for people I dont care about at all. The only times I will so much as really try to be empathatic is around family and friends, but even then I usually dont bother.)

-Poor behavioral controls — expressions of irritability, annoyance, impatience, threats, aggression, and verbal abuse; inadequate control of anger and temper. (Yeah, this can definately describe me because I wont hold back these emotions, but I have the belief that you should be able to feel however the **** you want, regardless of anything. They are your emotions, they are a part of you.)

-Tendency to violate the boundaries and rights of others. (I just dont care half the time, especially if I am in certain mindsets)

-Aggressive, often violent behavior; prone to getting involved in fights. (Used to be this way, now im more passively agressive unless I start throwing/destroying objects. But yeah during school years I was constantly getting in fights, usually as self defense, sometimes as revenge/vengeance)

-Inability to tolerate boredom. (This one is definately me. I have to be constantly doing something to the point that when I am not, my personality starts to destabilize rapidly. Sometimes gets to the point where I will just start holding a conversation with myself.)

Yet I dont fit the diagnostic criteria. I am just a very ****** up person all in all :/

I wasn't criticising your language: my point was that the way NTs behave so often is worse than cattle.

Two people of a group do something you don't agree with, thus you are justified in using a derogatory term for the entire group?

NT's may deserve such a term, but thinking in the way you did is dangerous. Anger can distort your perception of reality.

You just accused me of being furious, when I am trying desperatly to get you all to understand me! This is now far more difficult that it needs to be.

You're right. I wasn't trying to make the OP feel better, I was bashing the whole universe, with distructing no-logic. I have no brain, just a mental b***h complex.

I get it now. No metaphores!