Whats wrong with Suicide?

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in many cultures it was an acceptable thing to do within certain parameters... most of which involved the effect it would have on the family or the clan's/tribe's reputation/honor... which was usually also the cause of the suicide. The individual's needs or wants never came into consideration.

I found that interesting.


Today its simply considered bad because of the primarily christian beliefs which are the core of western cultures (its ingrained at the social level , has little to do with religion anymore).

Personally I find suicide to be wrong because you'd be denying yourself of the chance of something better. If life sucks and hurts then... why not instead do something about it rather than ending it? There is such a thing as leaving it all behind and starting a new life. As many times as it takes to get it right.

if that happens then you still have decades and decades afterwards to enjoy it. Sure, maybe a decade of it sucked really bad but in the end it paid for many more decades of being happy/comfortable.

I believe that a person has, regardless of the law, the right to hit the "Emergency Stop" button, so to speak, on their life. Your existence is not something that anyone else should be allowed to govern.

However, by offing yourself, you are cheating and hurting people who raised you, people who know and care about you, and people who might enjoy your presence in the future. You're also guaranteeing that you'll never experience the better parts of life, as Dantac (and probably others, I didn't read the whole thread) noted above. If you stay alive, you still have the potential to be happy. If you die, that's it. You're finished, no replays.

It sounds hokey, but "This too shall pass" has gotten me through hard times before. Please believe that there is truth to the saying, and remember it when life is giving you a beating.

Try to go on living. Your life is worth something. I never knew why suicide was a big deal until last week. One of my two best friends has two best friends, someone else and me. The other girl tried to kill herself, and my friend was a wreck, crying and tourtured by guilt that she and the young woman's other friends and relatives were somehow not enough to make life worth living. I have thought about suicide before. Life is hard and cruel. Death is like an old friend, living a friendly sparring match he will ultimately win. I do believe in something after. I have struggled with depression. I think God is sympathetic to people living with it. I do not believe suicides go to hell. That said, I will never do my friend what the other girl did. Maybe people on the autism spectrum are better able to understand the logical truth that suicide reflects more on the soul and circumstances of the person who dies than the people who love him or her, but I cannot do it now that I know how much it would hurt my mostly-neurotypical loved ones. If anyone is thinking of attempting it, they should try to imagine a parent, child, sibling, or best friend calling another loved one's cell phone after midnight tortured and sobbing to ask unanswerable questions about the insufficiency of his or her love, attention, and concern. Keep in mind that I got that phone call after a failed attempt. How much worse it would have been if the depressed person had actually succeeded?

Personally I dont believe in afterlives. It doesnt make sense. Why would you go somewhere after you die? To me you were nothing before you were born why are you anything once you die? And if there is an afterlife: how are we as humans truely suppose to know what the afterlife is? So with suicide, theres nothing...nothing matters? I think death just scares society. Death doesnt scare me, just the process towards death does.

And who would I really be leaving behind? In my life, relationships are tempoary. No one is real or permanent. So intially why would anyone really care? One thing I learned is: I really cant rely on anyone but myself and Im not that strong. Im quite fragile...you can beat me down quite easily. Things are go complicated...I've got at least Aspergers+ 3mood disorders. I get quite entangled in emotions quite easily. Im a friggin wimp.

When people kill themselves how do you know or not whether they DID actually consider the aftermath of friends and family who will be affected it? I'm guessing they assumed that the people in their lives don't actually care and that the grief won't be felt by them. It comes from feelings of worthlessness and not feeling important to anyone. I think that way when I'm suicidal. I always think my mum will bury me in a cardboard box .

I have sometimes wondered about this too.
I guess it's bad if you have family or friends who care about you and would get hurt by it (and it's definitely not good if you have children).

But what about people who don't have friends and family? Is it still wrong for them to commit suicide? I think it's their choice (I mean it's sad but you still have a right to do it if it doesn't harm anyone else)

I like you, cant see much wrong with suicide. We all die sometime anyway, I personally dont have issues with death.

The one big issue, i see with suicide is the risk that the suicide itself wont be fully successful and you may end up half brain dead or paralysed.

Even if you plan it perfectly, something can go wrong.. someone may show up and save you or something else may happen. So maybe its not a good idea.

I am not scared of death.

But.

I was born to a family who could feed me cloth me and bring me some joy. Chances are if you kill yourself you're throwing away a life to be re-incarnated to someone much less fortunate, like a starving homeless child. Thats whats stopped me.

I don't get the selfish thing, yeah its not nice for the people left, but does anyone say its "selfish" of them to want a person at the end of their tether to keep living for them?

TBH for someone who can't be helped without being drugged to oblivion... I would rather be dead than so doped up I don't know where I am in a hospital bed. Sometimes its kinder to just accept people want to go.

"Wine is fine
But whiskey's quicker
Suicide is slow with liquor"

I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with it. I don't follow the logic of people who think it's wrong. Calling a suicidal person evil for not wanting to live is just like pouring salt on someone's wound. In fact, it might just make them want to do it even more. I don't understand why people can't see how mean and heartless they are. Maybe their religion get's in the way, or they're so afraid of death themselves that they can't see why anyone would want to end their life. They must not realize that enough suffering will eventually take away that fear as there comes a point where existence simply isn't tolerable and someone will do anything to escape it. Nobody has an infinite supply of strength, they only delude themselves. Even for people who do end up committing suicide it isn't easy at all. At that point nothing is easy. My motto is don't judge if you haven't been there.

Princesselli, get some better help coping with your situation. It sounds to me like you've received some mental health counseling (based on your diagnoses). Are you seeing a therapist? Have you found a therapist that focuses on Autism Spectrum Disorders? Coping is the key word, you need to break the obsessive ideation, the pessimistic interpretation of your life and the negative forecasting of your future.

Breaking the fixations that bring about the suicidal reflex are important, once you learn to derail that thinking you can go on to build more meaningful pursuits and relationships. Focus on educational and career choices that work well for individuals on the Autistic Spectrum, there are numerous resources to explore those prospects. Get around, and seek out, people on 'The Spectrum'. Birds of a feather flock together as they say. Don't fixate on the outward appearances or cultural aspects, look to the shared psychological characteristics that they'll have.

For over thirty years I've fought the desire to commit suicide. I first ran into such feelings when I was 14 years old and they were in response to some rather brutal abuse I'd suffered. I didn't succeed in killing myself but I did succeed in complicating my life ridiculously, by making some stupid self destructive choices. Those mistakes have haunted me in much the same way as any failed suicide attempt would have. I had found a home in a fringe social group, post-punk and proto-gothic, all very much nihilistic. There was no hope in me or my friends and I obsessed on torturing and putting an end to myself, and despite not actually ending my life, I succeeded in causing a lifetime of psychological pain, not just for me but for my family as well.

DO NOT TRY TO KILL OR DAMAGE YOURSELF as you're more likely to scar yourself than you are in succeeding at your intended aim.

Some of the other reasons previously mentioned have been part of my motivation for overcoming the depression and despair that leads to suicidal ideation. Fear of hurting others emotionally or psychologically has been important. I never wanted to hurt those that love me, never wanted to put them through such pain, that would have been a selfish and cruel thing for me to do. We are all connected whether we like it or not, and our death has an effect on others. Autism makes one less so emotionally entangled but it doesn't make one blind to the consequences, look around and you'll see how suicide effects those 'left behind'.

Fear of failing to actually kill myself, but succeeding in crippling myself mentally or physically, has been a factor as well. Not as much for the effect it would have on me. No, I've been more concerned for the effect on those that I'd force into a role they hadn't chosen, the job of being my 'caretaker'. As stated, I wasn't completely successful in avoiding this latter effect of self destruction. I did succeed in causing myself psychological damage that has taken a toll on those around me throughout my life.

Learn coping skills. Learn to find hope. Learn to think more positively about yourself. If you can't live for yourself, find something for which to live, like homeless animals or some such. Love is always welcome in this world, learn to give it to others and you'll always find people that want you around.

The way I see it, here's why its wrong:

Fact: You will die. Some day. Eventually.
Fact: When yer dead, you can't come back.

So, with this in mind... what's the point of doing it? End emotional suffering? Well, thing is, you can do that too without killing yourself... there's always a way. Question is: have you tried to find this way & done it?

Every time I read in the news about people that pop themselves because they are mistreated at work/school or that have too much debt... I can't help but think.. MAN just because of that? QUIT the job and get another one... change schools... declare bankruptcy ... things so easy to do but people don't try them out.

As long as you are alive you can TRY. All you need is ONE successful attempt at it to make your life better. OTH, if dead, you're dead. I'm guessing there's not much happiness when decomposing underground.