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01 Oct 2011, 8:11 pm

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What choice do I have? I'm just a pathetic, good for nothing bum that doesn't have anything going myself.

What hope do I have for friends, dating, and having a happy life?


Then read how to - body language books, books on how to talk to people etc. As another user said, there's lots of info on the 'net. If you want to change who you are, then do it. Ignore people's advice about acting yourself - if you appear a creep to people and you hate yourself, and others dislike you, then change yourself. That's what I did. I'm nothing like I used to be. I used to be very emotional, clingy, and a bit creepy, and had no self belief, and couldn't make friends. Then I thought, f*** it, I'm going to do all I can to get out of this situation, because it's horrible. I hated myself, so I changed my thinking patterns and learned how to appear confident and able to handle people. It's very possible, you just have to read up lots on how. It's not going to be an instant change, but you're not too old to begin.


How can I change being butt ugly? How can I change being slow and stupid? Besides I've tried all that stuff in my teens and it just didn't work for me.

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This is BS. I tried all this crap in my teen, and I got me nowhere. I was still treated like sh** by both male and female. It was just a waste of time.


I tried dressing in the latest fashion, listening to the "in" music at that time, (mostly gangster rap) I tried mimicking other cool and popular people's actions and interests so that I could fit in. It never worked, males only hung out with me for the stuff that I had, and females still never gave me the time of day.

Looking back I was miserable, because I wasn't being myself. I was doing things I didn't want to do just impress idiots that still treated me like sh**. That still makes me angry whenever I think about it.



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01 Oct 2011, 9:53 pm

Dude, one thing that helped me with no attitude change at all, working out. Working out is awesome. It'll turn you from Shinji from Evangelion to Kenshiro From Fist of the North Star. It's sweet.

Seriously, working out, and my like, favorite physical activity, figure skating, has been such a blessing to me. Find some physical activity you like, no matter how weird it is (it is kind of odd for a 20 year old guy to take up figure skating) and just do it. For me, it was odd, in high school I was weak, and now I'm rapidly becoming much stronger than people I didn't like in high school.

This is a little personal and silly, but I love anime. I watched mostly older 80s animes and stuff. I'd see these anime characters, and how cool they were. So, you know, I'm unemployed and had a lot of trouble in my past. Just one day, went to the ice skating rink, started skating, started working out, lost a lot of weight, and yeah. I like myself better now, I'm closer to the heroes I idolized as a kid. Who knows, maybe one day I'll be like Baki the Grappler strong? Me, I'll play like Fist of the North Star music while I work out, and other Japanese and anime music over the PA speakers while I ice skate for the entire public session to hear.

But, besides working out, I had to ask God to help me. This is between you and him obviously, but that was what helped me the most. I find it admirable you don't want sex before marriage, too.

But in the mean time, make your body powerful. That's easy to control, much easier than controlling your social nuances or whatever.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p57R3gl9TnEk[/youtube]
I'm just weird and find that sort of thing inspiring. Whatever I guess. Sorry if my post is entirely useless to you. Oh, and take a shower, try at least once a day. I used to shower once a week, definitely didn't work out well with me and people. At least if I shower and stuff, it's once less mark against me in people's minds.



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01 Oct 2011, 10:17 pm

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You probably give off a loser vibe. If you give off a winner vibe, people will treat you like one. Then you win. Perception management. #tiggerblood


Me having low self esteem give people no right to treat me like sh** and make fun of me, when all I've done is try to be nice and friendly.


They aren't like us. Think of them like monkeys: it's all about power hierarchies. Might is right. So get strong or give up, but you can't keep complaining.



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02 Oct 2011, 6:40 am

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This is BS. I tried all this crap in my teen, and I got me nowhere. I was still treated like sh** by both male and female. It was just a waste of time.

I tried dressing in the latest fashion, listening to the "in" music at that time, (mostly gangster rap) I tried mimicking other cool and popular people's actions and interests so that I could fit in. It never worked, males only hung out with me for the stuff that I had, and females still never gave me the time of day.

Looking back I was miserable, because I wasn't being myself. I was doing things I didn't want to do just impress idiots that still treated me like sh**. That still makes me angry whenever I think about it.


All that stuff you said wasn't what I was suggesting at all. Don't dress or copy others, it's boring anyway. I'm saying to teach yourself to recognise what people are thinking by their body language, and reading books on how to talk to people. That's very different because you're analysing them, not copying them. When you're able to tell as soon as someone is starting to get bored for instance, then it's far easier to make conversations last longer (and more enjoyable).



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02 Oct 2011, 7:06 am

How can you change yourself from being butt ugly? STOP thinking your butt ugly, for starters. Because it's all psychological. You just need someone to love you and accept you the way you are now and believe me people will. I assume you rarely leave home. Go physical, run, sweat, shower (not showering for long can result in being sick and butt ugly looking) and look for a job everywhere. Go to every store, shop, restaurant or whatever menial labor job you can find and apply. Print out copies of your resume (Yeah I know, not much of a good resume but for menial labor jobs you don't need education much) search for jobs via internet. If you can't find a job volunteer. Make it that you have something to do every single day of the week. Volunteer at a different place each day of the week. But work your ass off. Volunteering can boost your life skills, confidence and heck even resume. You'll be able to take care of yourself better if you learn all those important stuff via volunteering.

Get a haircut, shave, smile when you see someone you know and be polite. Don't give a s**t about other people they have their problems to you know and since you don't live as other people and only as yourself you may be surprised that there are other people who face greater difficulties than you. Cheer up and get to work on yourself. Cultivate yourself and your hobbies and having no friends is totally okay you can be your own best friend :P



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02 Oct 2011, 9:59 am

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How can you change yourself from being butt ugly? STOP thinking your butt ugly, for starters. Because it's all psychological. You just need someone to love you and accept you the way you are now and believe me people will. I assume you rarely leave home. Go physical, run, sweat, shower (not showering for long can result in being sick and butt ugly looking) and look for a job everywhere. Go to every store, shop, restaurant or whatever menial labor job you can find and apply. Print out copies of your resume (Yeah I know, not much of a good resume but for menial labor jobs you don't need education much) search for jobs via internet. If you can't find a job volunteer. Make it that you have something to do every single day of the week. Volunteer at a different place each day of the week. But work your ass off. Volunteering can boost your life skills, confidence and heck even resume. You'll be able to take care of yourself better if you learn all those important stuff via volunteering.

Get a haircut, shave, smile when you see someone you know and be polite. Don't give a sh** about other people they have their problems to you know and since you don't live as other people and only as yourself you may be surprised that there are other people who face greater difficulties than you. Cheer up and get to work on yourself. Cultivate yourself and your hobbies and having no friends is totally okay you can be your own best friend :P


Quote from another thread about me and crowds of people:

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Is there really no job you can handle, not even a part-time one?

I don't really do well around crowds of people. I start having anxiety attacks and I get really paranoid. I start to think that people are staring and laughing at me. My palms and feet get very sweaty and it's very hard to concentrate on any kind of work. (had huge problems with this while in school) Maybe if could find something online and/or home based.

Not being academically-inclined doens't make someone stupid.

Wouldn't you view someone as stupid if they spent most of their school years in special ed then dropped out after repeating the 9th grade twice?


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I don't have any hobbies besides watching anime and porn and playing video games. I'm not really interested in anything else besides probably snowboarding, and I can't do that where I live.



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02 Oct 2011, 10:07 am

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This is BS. I tried all this crap in my teen, and I got me nowhere. I was still treated like sh** by both male and female. It was just a waste of time.

I tried dressing in the latest fashion, listening to the "in" music at that time, (mostly gangster rap) I tried mimicking other cool and popular people's actions and interests so that I could fit in. It never worked, males only hung out with me for the stuff that I had, and females still never gave me the time of day.

Looking back I was miserable, because I wasn't being myself. I was doing things I didn't want to do just impress idiots that still treated me like sh**. That still makes me angry whenever I think about it.


All that stuff you said wasn't what I was suggesting at all. Don't dress or copy others, it's boring anyway. I'm saying to teach yourself to recognise what people are thinking by their body language, and reading books on how to talk to people. That's very different because you're analysing them, not copying them. When you're able to tell as soon as someone is starting to get bored for instance, then it's far easier to make conversations last longer (and more enjoyable).


Why do I have to change my personality, the way I act, think, and feel, just to impress stupid idiots that's treated me like s**t my entire life? I don't think that's fair. All I've done was try to be nice and respectful. It shouldn't have anything to do with being normal, looking and acting a certain way, or feeling good about yourself.

If you're nice and and friendly to other people they should return the favor, forget this other crap.



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02 Oct 2011, 10:17 am

I thought you wanted to change, because you said you were pathetic and a loser. I didn't think you liked who you were by the sound of your posts. In order to change the situation, you have to change either the world around you, or yourself.

I'm not going to say any more, because I can't help you.



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02 Oct 2011, 10:37 am

Do you have any skills? Perhaps you can work in video game developing or something...



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02 Oct 2011, 10:38 am

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I thought you wanted to change, because you said you were pathetic and a loser. I didn't think you liked who you were by the sound of your posts. In order to change the situation, you have to change either the world around you, or yourself.

I'm not going to say any more, because I can't help you.


Yeah you're just like the others. The people that find me annoying and irritating. They're mean to me just to get me to f**k off and go away. I don't care what you people think, I'm going to keep posting here whether you like it or not.

BTW, who loves being a pathetic, depressed, lonely, suicidal, miserable, and bitter loser that has no hope for happiness in the future? It's nothing I can do to help that. Guess I was born too abnormal and inadequate to be accepted by the idiots. Being nice, friendly, and respectful I guess has nothing to do with it.



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02 Oct 2011, 12:44 pm

You could gain the next level of awareness and realise how much you enjoy self-pity. Then you'd be happy.



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02 Oct 2011, 6:08 pm

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Do you have any skills? Perhaps you can work in video game developing or something...


I have no skills in anything useful or impressive. Besides, how would I get into game developing w/o going to college? I'm so stupid that I spent most of school years in special ed, until I dropped out in the 9th after repeating the grade twice.



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02 Oct 2011, 10:26 pm

Just snowboarding? Maybe try longboard skateboarding, you can do that all year round.



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03 Oct 2011, 1:17 am

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How can you change yourself from being butt ugly? STOP thinking your butt ugly, for starters. Because it's all psychological. You just need someone to love you and accept you the way you are now and believe me people will. I assume you rarely leave home. Go physical, run, sweat, shower (not showering for long can result in being sick and butt ugly looking) and look for a job everywhere. Go to every store, shop, restaurant or whatever menial labor job you can find and apply. Print out copies of your resume (Yeah I know, not much of a good resume but for menial labor jobs you don't need education much) search for jobs via internet. If you can't find a job volunteer. Make it that you have something to do every single day of the week. Volunteer at a different place each day of the week. But work your ass off. Volunteering can boost your life skills, confidence and heck even resume. You'll be able to take care of yourself better if you learn all those important stuff via volunteering.

Get a haircut, shave, smile when you see someone you know and be polite. Don't give a sh** about other people they have their problems to you know and since you don't live as other people and only as yourself you may be surprised that there are other people who face greater difficulties than you. Cheer up and get to work on yourself. Cultivate yourself and your hobbies and having no friends is totally okay you can be your own best friend :P


Quote from another thread about me and crowds of people:

EmiliaL wrote:
Is there really no job you can handle, not even a part-time one?

I don't really do well around crowds of people. I start having anxiety attacks and I get really paranoid. I start to think that people are staring and laughing at me. My palms and feet get very sweaty and it's very hard to concentrate on any kind of work. (had huge problems with this while in school) Maybe if could find something online and/or home based.

Not being academically-inclined doens't make someone stupid.

Wouldn't you view someone as stupid if they spent most of their school years in special ed then dropped out after repeating the 9th grade twice?


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Me in bold


I don't have any hobbies besides watching anime and porn and playing video games. I'm not really interested in anything else besides probably snowboarding, and I can't do that where I live.


Porn degenerates your brain and is very dangerous. Stop now and get help from professionals.



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03 Oct 2011, 2:05 pm

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How can you change yourself from being butt ugly? STOP thinking your butt ugly, for starters. Because it's all psychological. You just need someone to love you and accept you the way you are now and believe me people will. I assume you rarely leave home. Go physical, run, sweat, shower (not showering for long can result in being sick and butt ugly looking) and look for a job everywhere. Go to every store, shop, restaurant or whatever menial labor job you can find and apply. Print out copies of your resume (Yeah I know, not much of a good resume but for menial labor jobs you don't need education much) search for jobs via internet. If you can't find a job volunteer. Make it that you have something to do every single day of the week. Volunteer at a different place each day of the week. But work your ass off. Volunteering can boost your life skills, confidence and heck even resume. You'll be able to take care of yourself better if you learn all those important stuff via volunteering.

Get a haircut, shave, smile when you see someone you know and be polite. Don't give a sh** about other people they have their problems to you know and since you don't live as other people and only as yourself you may be surprised that there are other people who face greater difficulties than you. Cheer up and get to work on yourself. Cultivate yourself and your hobbies and having no friends is totally okay you can be your own best friend :P


Quote from another thread about me and crowds of people:

EmiliaL wrote:
Is there really no job you can handle, not even a part-time one?

I don't really do well around crowds of people. I start having anxiety attacks and I get really paranoid. I start to think that people are staring and laughing at me. My palms and feet get very sweaty and it's very hard to concentrate on any kind of work. (had huge problems with this while in school) Maybe if could find something online and/or home based.

Not being academically-inclined doens't make someone stupid.

Wouldn't you view someone as stupid if they spent most of their school years in special ed then dropped out after repeating the 9th grade twice?


.


Me in bold


I don't have any hobbies besides watching anime and porn and playing video games. I'm not really interested in anything else besides probably snowboarding, and I can't do that where I live.


Porn degenerates your brain and is very dangerous. Stop now and get help from professionals.



You make it sound like it's a hard drug or something



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03 Oct 2011, 3:19 pm

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Why do I have to change my personality, the way I act, think, and feel, just to impress stupid idiots that's treated me like sh** my entire life? I don't think that's fair. All I've done was try to be nice and respectful. It shouldn't have anything to do with being normal, looking and acting a certain way, or feeling good about yourself.

If you're nice and and friendly to other people they should return the favor, forget this other crap.


I feel you're missing the point entire. What the person was suggesting wasn't changing yourself, it was to learn how to talk to other people. I.E. If you didn't learn how to communicate in a human language (in this case English) you'd get no results from this post whatsoever. Body language is the same thing--it is real and it is studied.

You are depriving yourself of knowledge, knowledge isn't "not being who you are" Or some of this 90's rock band crap afterschool specials drilled into us so we'd think its ok to not grow. Let's look at a stubborn toddler potty training for instance (not that you are one) they keep complaining that their pull ups stink but they don't want to use the bathroom--I am very much trying to teach them how to solve their problem directly.

This isn't just with body language either, is learning to find other interests YOU personally find interesting changing yourself? No, it isn't. You're complaining about being boring and not having other interests--this is just a solution to you refining who you yourself already are.

When I was younger I didn't like music whatsoever and I was close to 17, but the truth was I just didn't know enough music to make the classification that I didn't like any. Now I listen to several different types of music.

I understand anxiety and know what post your quoting because I relate, that being the case just because I thought someone might be talking about me or others might view me a certain way doesn't mean i believe what they're saying is true. Yes, there are certain people who attack others because what they say appears to be the truth-- but at the root of these people is usually an insecure ego that motivates them to do so If you'd look at statistics in school on people who thought they were bullied, its a fairly high percentage (close to majority if i recall)

Also what beautiful people are you speaking of? Because anyone who's a jerk enough to bully people-- that is closer to being "butt ugly" to me than anything.



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