So worried about December 21 2012

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I've read about this euro collapsing thing and I don't understand it one bit, but something tells me that it means everybody in the whole world will lose their jobs and there will be zero jobs. How will we survive? Any saved food will run out in time, electricity and gas won't be running any more, the world will come to a disturbing standstill. What's the point in all this talk about building some new shops in 2014 where I live if there will be no-one to run the shops? Who will build the shops if there will be no jobs?

I am really panicking. I can't bear this any longer. I've been crying all afternoon, my mum has come in and I'm trying to ask her what she knows about it but all she wants to do is sit in peace reading the newspaper. Will all this euro collapse s**t affect everyone on the planet, or is it just between the government? I am so worried. I'm going to lose my bus service, and that is my special interest, and my special interests is the only thing that keeps me going (emotionally).

Oh why can't this all be made up to frighten the s**t out of everybody? If most people have gotten so greedy for money then why are we letting it come to this where nobody will have no money? I just want to wake up on Christmas morning happily opening presents under my lit Christmas tree, not waking up in complete darkness without no electricity any more and just waiting to die.

I'm not going to the job centre this week. I will stay at home, and when they phone up threatening to stop my claim I'm going to say, ''what's the point in looking for work if we've only got 5 months left of employment on this planet?''

Joe90 --- that is not gonna happen!
It is not going to be '20th December going swimmingly, 21 December no money from 11am onwards shut down every service right now'. If anything it's all happening now. It's been happening for the last 4-5 years.

Think of it this way. There seems to be a lot of disturbing things that all seem to be aimed at this one date. First it was the Mayans, then it was a meteor heading towards the Earth, now it's this financial thing, then it'd be something else. So that proves that none of it will happen. You will wake up on December 21 just like you did this morning. I've just looked on my calander on that date and all it said was 'Longest Day/Winter Begins'. Then after that it goes on to December 22.

I garauntee life will go on as normal. This financial collapse thing (whatever it is) may affect things like pensions and all of that, it won't affect your bus service and other things like that. Just don't worry about what's not going to even happen the way you think.

http://ferfal.blogspot.com/ This guy's website is the most realistic survival guide I've read. He's wrote a book, too. He survived during Argentina's economic collapse and currency crisis, Argentina is a mostly white middle class, even rich country, and it collapsed to shambles. So unlike most books written for the context of the New World Order, UN, zombies, etc, this is a realistic guide written off realistic experiences.

Quite the opposite tone of lots of other survivalists.

http://survivalplus.com/foods/toc.htm
He's a bit of a nutty dude, but his stuff on food is quite good. That's all I'd recommend though, besides food it's a bit nutty.

http://www.endtimesreport.com/food.html
This is a good site for food prepping, too.

But, basically, you have to remain clear headed. IF the Poles shift, or some crazily catastrophic thing happens, there's nothing you can do but hope and pray (please pray things go well.) So, you know things will get worse. With that in mind, you have to make changes to make yourself more adaptable and self sufficient in your life. Even if it's as simple as learning to cook, that's something most people don't know how to do nowadays, and it'll make your food prices cheaper even in "peace time" but people would run around like chickens with their heads cut off if the stores stopped carrying Hot Pockets. So, even "little things" like that make a big difference. Just try to be as "adaptable" as possible. Adapt, overcome, that's the secret of survivalism.

OK, try and calm down. If the Euro collapses it doesn't mean there will be no jobs. We're all going to survive, I promise. I wouldn't promise it if I wasn't sure it would be OK. Everyone in the EU are doing everything they can to make sure that the Euro will not fail. If it does, it will not mean that people are going to starve, or that there will be no electricity for us in the UK. We are not in the single currency and although a drop in the markets would affect us, we are not going to end up like Greece.

It is true that with further economic difficulties that there might be a shortage of jobs, just like there is now. In the 70s there were unemployment problems, strikes and electricity blackouts but people survived. In fact, if you ask your Mum I'm sure she'll barely remember those things. The Government will have a plan to make sure that the things you are worrying about won't happen - remember that even in the war the UK maintained it's infrastructure and that included transport, so your bus services will be fine.

I really think you should still go to the Jobcentre, if you don't your benefits will get messed up and that won't help the situation.

The economic problems and the 21st December stuff are completely unrelated, there is no 'End Date', we're just having a difficult few years economically. People have lived through this and much tougher times and we will too.

No hug for me then J90? My nearest bus stop is a small walk away...

Predictions for the impending destruction of earth and civilization has been made since the time of the Roman Empire. Just taking the timespan of 2000-2012 the apocalypse was supposed to happen 14 times. Humanity is in love with tragedy. As for your very specific fear of the euro collapsing, you should know that economies have risen and fallen since time immemorial. Civilization is still here. You're still here.

And in five months you'll still be here. There will be alarmists in this world screaming at the top of their lungs, and there will be people with level heads that keep their chin up and look towards the next day. I suggest you continue looking for a job. Maybe enjoy a Jaffa Cake.

Besides the real reason why they are saying all this is to make people fear for their lives... and your falling for it.
There are other benefits you can apply for if they're giving you grief for not getting a job...
I really don't wanna say it but if you do say that "what's the point if the world is gonna end", they won't take you seriously no matter how you word it...

Actually what I had heard about 12/21 is that the planets will shift and we will either get blown to bits by a comet or gravity will reverse itself and we will be hurled into space. I don't believe that for one second. If something like that were going to happen we would be hearing it from NASA not from guys who spend their retirement packages on three years worth of freeze dried food.

As for the money thing, well we have been hearing it over here too. People have been predicting a depression, collapse of the dollar, and everything in between for years and years. It hasn't happened. There are professionals out there who deal with government financial stuff whose job it is to prevent that kind of thing.

I do think that the most that would happen, would be something like the Great Depression after the crash of 29. It was hard on lots of people but most people survived it. My mother was born during the depression and although it was rough, it wasn't horrible. I lived through the recession in the 70's back when there was the oil shortage and they rationed gas and you could only buy a limited amount of gas every other day (odd or even, depending on the last digit of your tag number).

I do understand where you are coming from though. I was worried to death about Y2K. I was actualy one of those Y2K nuts who bought up all kinds of stuff and survival gear etc and was so disappointed at midnight when nothing happened. I actually slammed the bedroom door and went to bed at 12;01. Then again, I was looking forward to it. I'm wierd like that.

If you are truly worried about the money collapsing, or something like that, maybe tomorrow you could call a financial advisor or some company like that and tell the receptionist that you are worried about that and could someone there please explain to you why it's not going to happen. I'm sure you won't be the first one to make that kind of call.

I'm a bit worried at the moment because West Nile Virus has been found in Tennessee. That's not far from me.

OK, a hug.

And I like the way you wrote my nickname there. It sounds cool.

I love prepping, but I live with my parents and they not only refuse to prep, they refuse to let me prep too. I can't have a garden or chickens, and all the storage space is taken up with their junk so there's no room for food storage. I want my own place.

I understand that England is really big on the whole Mayan thing. I think that the Mayan thing is unlikely, the euro failing is much more likely.

Go to survivalistboards.com, tell em "Angry Cow" sent you. That board has been really helpful.

Thank you very much!! !
Also, you need a cool nickname for a cool person. Also made you a little happier. YAY!
If we make it past 21st of Dec, I wish you a Merry Christmas!

That's a drag & just plain silly on their part. You never know when the grid might go down, etc.

I'm sure you've found little ways to prep, like stashing some extra batteries, getting one of those pocket water filters (hey, tap water tastes nasty, right?), & learning skills you would need to improve your chances. I play a game in my head... how would I survive if I got caught here? You know the drill... food? water? shelter? for 72 hours. You've been working on your basic first aid, right? How to treat hypothermia, heat stroke, immobilize a broken arm or leg. What should you do if someone has a heart attack? Can you tell if someone is having a minor heart attack?

I did Search & Rescue for a couple of years & learned lots of valuable skills & information.

I like Jack on Survival Podcast... he's not too into the bunker mentality, more about how to cultivate mindset & tools to increase your quality of life now & if things get tough...
http://www.thesurvivalpodcast.com/

And Ferfal, the guy who went through the economic collapse in Argentina (& now lives in Ireland) is really informative to listen to for how real hard times play out. Any actual information of what's happening in Greece right now would help a person figure out what sorts of things (money in hand, trade goods, extra medical supplies, networking w/neighbors) a person might want to do.

J90, it won't just stop, end, no work. That's not what's going to happen. It'll be more like what happened in '08-'09, lots of folks get laid off, services get cut again, food will get more expensive, many people will get poorer, but folks are amazingly adaptable & tho' it will be tough, the underground market will thrive. There are lots of things you can do now that will help you stretch a dollar (or euro), keep you fed & safe. It will give you a feeling of accomplishment to learn a few prepper skills.

Unfortunately it comes down to the Board that run this country and no-one can really offer a real plan of action which everyone will agree on because at the moment it's just passing the buck on to the next person to blame. I think that it's not really doing as well since Tony Blair as he wasn't really doing badly considering he's been in a better commanding position than Gordon Brown and David Cameron so far.

That date means only one thing... the end of the Mayan calendar. The Mayans were wiped out before they made a calendar going past that date. When the calendars we use end on January 31st, does it mean the world is coming to an end? No. We just get a new calendar and start the new year on January 1st.

It does as when my birthday is coming to an end, it feels like the world is going to end.
I know that was bad... can't help it.

There is one thing to be genuinely concerned about the Mayan date. It's a bit famous and the media will push it as the date gets closer, just as they did with the millenium bug, etc. Makes for good ratings.

There are enough true believers, and more will get nervous the closer we get to the date. So you might want to consider what will happen to the shelves at your local grocery store. Could easily find difficulty in getting money from the bank too.

Stock up for a months worth of needs.