My acquaintance, a Nice Guy™ *TW Rape
"Easy target" is anyone who cannot or will not defend themselves.
I did defend myself to the best of my ability. I'm not going to start keeping a firearm in my home, dude. Pipe the f**k down.
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Maybe I'll try that line the next time I hear a remark about me not living by myself.
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This is what I don't understand: Don't all of those fools promoting rape culture realize that they victimize themselves in the process? Do those fool men have no idea the repercussions they themselves face by facilitating things such as this horrific assault?
It kind of sucks having to deal with the fact that women are afraid to go anywhere alone with men, even ones they think they SHOULD be able to trust given most rapes are committed by people you know. I wanted to take a girl out to a wildlife reserve with a great trail, however it's a bit out of the way. She said no, and asked to do something else instead...said she didn't really care that much for walking trails. I asked her to go to a large garden/glorified park in the middle of the town where there's lots of people around. She had no issues with that and accepted immediately...despite the fact that it's also essentially a large trail.
I know exactly why she accepted the second time, and feels violating that she would even THINK I would do something like that. Really, all of this s**t has to stop.
It's also insulting to males as in it paints them all as the "Me want female, me must have Ug Ug!" unintelligent morons who are only controlled by their urges and not by any sort of intelligent thought. Most men I know aren't like that.
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But, as we all know, most men are, as many have put it, "Schrodinger's rapist" until a girl knows otherwise...and even then she doesn't. While it's doubtlessly a worse situation for the womenfolk, it still affects us all, which should be all the impetus we need to tackle this as a society.
It kind of sucks having to deal with the fact that women are afraid to go anywhere alone with men, even ones they think they SHOULD be able to trust given most rapes are committed by people you know. I wanted to take a girl out to a wildlife reserve with a great trail, however it's a bit out of the way. She said no, and asked to do something else instead...said she didn't really care that much for walking trails. I asked her to go to a large garden/glorified park in the middle of the town where there's lots of people around. She had no issues with that and accepted immediately...despite the fact that it's also essentially a large trail.
I know exactly why she accepted the second time, and feels violating that she would even THINK I would do something like that. Really, all of this sh** has to stop.
She probably didn't think you were a potential rapist. Women are taught from a very early age there are certain situations we should avoid if at all possible because it's our job to stay safe, so it becomes second nature to take certain precautions, we forget why it is we take those precautions, we just know we're supposed to do that. I think that's the worst part of rape culture. It's so deep in our minds we forget we're essentially saying all men are base creatures of instinct and all women have an obligation to act accordingly, else they deserve what they get.
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But, as we all know, most men are, as many have put it, "Schrodinger's rapist" until a girl knows otherwise...and even then she doesn't. While it's doubtlessly a worse situation for the womenfolk, it still affects us all, which should be all the impetus we need to tackle this as a society.
I don't think it even matters if one gender has it worse, it's bad for all of us, and we should all want to fix it. Even if something were only bad for a small group of people, I think we as a species should feel compelled to find a solution and work toward it. But it's like we just... it's a challenge and it's work and very few people have the persistent motivation and drive to fix anything at all within society.
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I think people have a hard time with stuff like this because they want to believe they aren't vulnerable and nor are their loved ones. So if I did something to cause it then the world is just and they can feel safe knowing that they're not just as vulnerable as any of the rest of us because they own a gun or they don't have friends who would do that or they have better morals and make better choices etc.
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Seems pretty black and white to me.
If you say no to sex, and it happens anyway, its rape and is a crime. The victim is not to blame, male or female.
Tbh if someone did something to my daughter / partner / female friends and they were still walking the streets a week later, id cut off their balls.
Nobody around here would call you paranoid for trying to protect yourself so that you won't be a victim.
And if you don't protect yourself, it certainly isn't your fault that it happened, but it does make you more likely to be a victim.
meems, your story made me cry. sorry, i know that isn't helpful. i can't really reassure you about the case because i don't have confidence in the justice system, but hopefully he will at least get a record and serve some time. i am glad you are following through and that you are not backing down. it's very brave of you to go ahead with this, knowing fully how difficult it is going to be.
if any part of this goes well, think of this as being a case that can be used a benchmark for future trials. every case is a little different, so maybe someday yours will be the one that is used as a precedent to help other people down the line. it will also establish the perpetrator's record. and with every victim that comes forward, it is that much easier for future victims. that way, it isn't just about you, as painful as it is going to get; eventually you'll be helping people in hard circumstances down the line.
(((((hugs)))))
Nobody around here would call you paranoid for trying to protect yourself so that you won't be a victim.
And if you don't protect yourself, it certainly isn't your fault that it happened, but it does make you more likely to be a victim.
there have been multiple posts and threads saying exactly that on the forum.
on the rest, you're bordering very close to victim blaming in this thread, so i'm going to ask you to exit the thread gracefully and allow the discussion to continue in a different direction. i am pretty sure you can see why it is ill-advised to push your opinions about firearms in this thread - after the sexual assault and battery has already occurred. never mind what you think "would have been" best, or would work "next time around".
in future try to have a bit of tact and sensitivity (or stay out of threads of this nature please).
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in future try to have a bit of tact and sensitivity (or stay out of threads of this nature please).
Ok. I'll exit from this thread.
I would like to say, though, that I wasn't trying to push my opinions on firearms. The guy sounds like a stalker and if he is a stalker, no order to stay at least 500 feet away from the house is likely to matter to him. If he should return, she does need to be able to do something to protect herself.
