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NTs get dissed on quite a bit on other Wrong Planet boards like here in The Haven and the main GAD board since we all know they're pretty "fake" in comparison to autistics. Then you go to L&D and all the women there suddenly pretend like they're all great people, just cause sex/relationship related topics are being discussed(how convenient ). L&D is kinda "two-faced" in that way which is what starts a lot of the arguments there.

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good one!

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Thanks, blatant-honesty works great for shock humor with NTs for that reason as well.

awwwww, you missed my sarcasm. how cute.

Maybe that person should leave the site, unless you break site rules or are harrassing people or you've really come to dislike the site there is no reason to leave...even there are people that say that but they cant tell you what to do. I certainly do not feel that you should leave, that's ridiculous.

Upon reading more of the thread I will say one thing the Love & Dating forum is largely crap people just trying to tell people what 'all' women expect of men much of the time they are inaccurate or what all guys expect of females or that if you're not self suffiecient/successful then there is no chance of any relationship then lots of arguing so not the best forum if you're feeling down at all....I rarely go in there, politics and religion can be annoying to though some interesting convo comes up....but certainly do not leave the whole site, I'd just say if anything sometimes avoiding threads/sections that are upsetting when you need to some days I am not up for getting on any forums

I don't know I see plenty of hate/overgeneralizing and what not towards males in there....especially when it comes to males that don't have a steady job, a car, their own house ect as if they are garbage not worthy of any female. But seems a lot of females go in there and demonize guys then guys go in there and demonize females. And lots and lots of overgeneralizing towards both sexes....sad forum section is sad.

Please don't spill the gender wars to this board. It's the last board on earth that needs it.

it didn't use to be like that, though or not as bad. when I first came here l&D seemed so helpful. even now there are are few threads that are god and others people seeking help. to be honest from the get go that thread seemed like it should been in PPR it was way more political then about helping. theres two major agendas in there it seems the pua leaning one and the self called femenist men are likely to rape you one. its just like having democrats and rebplucicans. I don't fall in either. its also annoying that I can agree with a lot about what they say but then the few things I don't gets me demonized by them. it must be a aspie thing. my mom and me both have it and sometimes we get in fights even though we basically saying the same things.

I try to take advice. I also have a lot of confusion from what i've expeinced with women and what people here suggest.
this along with what some Christians say leads me to feel sex is bad. being attracted to women is bad. women are always talking about how guys shouldn't' ever look at them. this seems to support that women would prefer that guys not feel attracted to them until which time they decide they want them as a bf. but it can't be turned on and off, so I am left with feeling guilty and like a monster. just seem to be pulled around alot here. kissing without asking bad, then its touching without asking also bad. pretty much just going near a woman without asking is bad. don't approach women in the random, leave them alone. but then they say to go try to meet women out and about. o.O I have to supress my nature instints and theres an internal battle inside of me.

I like giving kisses. hugs cuddles. I've never not asked before not because I am submissive. I like to give gifts, and suprises and bake or cook for the woman I love. but yet I experienced that the two women I loved didn't like those. so giving gifts is bad.
asking to kiss likely started to annoy the one. people don't seem to like being asked stuff repeatably. my sister will snap at me if I ask her something twice even though I didn't hear the answer the first time.

I do/dont think I'm a bad guy but all these people say I am. I don't know what to think anymore and its an internal battle now where theres two thoughts inside me 1. you a horrible person. 2. you're not.
if i am a horrible person then I should die. I am always out to help and protect people. if I am horrible and a monster as people feel then I should die to protect people from me.

dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against women.
hatred of women

most the men in there do not meet this. there are maybe 2-4 who do. and 2-4 women who are always on the attack to say all are. I hate to say it but do wonder how nicer that area would be without either groups there. both can offer some good advice but at the slightness turn will turn a thread into a 20 page long gender war. both sides and probably alot of people here have distrust for both sexes. from what I've seen the real sexist and real.

theres a lot of hatred towards men on there too. I think it can be quite easy to not see it as a woman and only see the hate toward women. like how some black people say only whites can be raceist. though there have been women in there who point it out and disagree with the other women. this just gets them quickly attacked. the mods are quite quick to remove real misogynist. the others are mostly people who disagree slightly and are labeled it. I wonder if its like in the 60s where if you didn't agree with someone you called them a communist to try to devalue their ideals and create this idea that they are the enemy.

I have no hatred for women. Do I have some distrust.,yes, just as mose people who came out of bad relationships do. the two women I had been as close to dating as it gets, likely lied to me and where not trustworthy. one even told me later that she lies a lot. I feel the heart of the matter for the other women is they have stated they were hurt by men, or had expeince with bad types of men. so its likely they have distrust of men, this can leak into the topic. I could see how one might feel that every guy is possible a misogynist or rapist, so treat them as such until you know different.

there is this giant divide among women too. between what the feminist say is and what other women say is. all my femal family and friends do not agree with the extreme ideas of the 2 women here. there are women here who don't too. there are women on other forums who don't. feels like they see anyone who disagrees with them as the enemy. which isn't true. for some stupid reason I actually like them a bit. they had been helpful to me at some point, which is confusing now that they are so aggressive against me.

its already spread into the adult section.

Indeed, don't need that anywhere let alone here.....I mean in general generalizing a whole group or gender in the same negative light does no good regardless of who it comes from.

it's become part of my routine. I spend 3-6 hours on here a day and thats just reading the PPR,Adult,games, work, soical, haven, and L&D. sometimes women's. I can't read the other cause they are packed full of new posts every day it owuld take days to read, and its so overwhelming. I tend to skip doing other things sometimes to read thru the posts here. when i work some days will just be work and wp then sleep. others i might not read some days as I know if I only have an hour before sleep i won't get thru all the posts.

yeah and they seem to contradict themselves a bit in those threads, one time saying man being successful doesn't matter then another saying it does. I am certainly not imaging all the women profile's i see on dating sites who it matters a lot and just about any Google forum result will show you pages of women saying they wont' stay with or date a guy who isn't successful. though to not seem bad they call it ambition. It makes me frustrated. and yes angry at some women(mainly the ones that start out saying they aren't picky and any guy will do then near the end mention all this s**t the guy has to have) I don't hate women. I hate the society that tells them that a guy who isn't successful/ambitious is trash . I wasn't raised to follow that mindset. so it gets back to my internal battle of I was raised to see people as people, based on personality and kindness. people say I am a good person, yet I am trash cause I don't have a high paying job. but if i'm a good person then shouldnt' that be all that matters, but it isn't so I'm trash. this is the constant battle I face. though its mostly men who say I am good and that I'll find a woman. yet women mostly see me as trash. or for a friend.. it feels like I'd have better shot if I was gay. as men just don't care about wealth here.




point it out and they call you a misogynist. even if you don't fall under the definition.
I don't feel I demonize females. I go there talking about how females are in my area to be told by someone well i'm ot like that so no women are. they don't' live here, how could they know what women are like here. I don't make the s**t up. the proof is all over the profiles and ads of women here. I don't see it as hating women cause I say how stuff is. is it bad that women think that, I think so. cause a part of me thinks and have been told I amd a great guy, am fun to be around, and always trying to help and make people feel better. so they miss out on that cause I only make $9.21 an hour and work seasonally. I am working with voc rehab to try to find work, but even then only going make 10-11 so still not enough. the excuss I hear alot is wll they want family and you need to be rich to have a family. yet I see tons of people having families that aren't rich. I see tons of people who make 10-12 an hour having a wife and 3 kids. the median house income is 19 an hour here. thats house, so could be two people making 9 and change an hour. yet they have a family, an house, etc. drifted sorry.

I wish people could drop the gender wars, the sexist attacks and get back to what the forum is abouth helping aspies struggling finding love and dealing with their relationships.

You know in the old days when there was a lot of stressing in the village, the witchdoctor would declare that a demon or something was in the village. Then he or she would pick some unfortunate person that people generally didn't like or maybe just at random, and saying it was they who were the cause of the trouble, burn them at the stake or drown them in a bog, etc. It could have the effect of releasing people's bloodlust and anger, and they would be chill for a while and go back to happily chatting tanning hides or flocking sheeps or whatever.

Maybe something like that would work to stop this continual 'gender war' aggravation. We can pick someone and sacrifice them (by ritual banning) and make up some mumbo-jumbo about how it has cleansed the forum and driven all the bad feelings away to the corn field. Yes, in time they will start to drift back from the corn and the whole cycle repeat itself, but for a while there will be peace and contentment in the village.

Maybe we can even designate a few people to be 'Guardians of the Corn' and give them the job of watching for evil spirits trying to slip in among us. 'But we have Mods, are not they de facto 'Guardians of the Corn?' you might say. And to that I would say 'Yes, we have Mods, and good ones too, but they are physical guardians. What I am talking about is metaphysical guardians, to protect us from that which has no form'. 'But what will protect the Corn Guardians?' you might have as a follow up question. 'Tin foil hats! What else?' I would say, and they would be required to wear them whether reading or posting on the forum.

Jeez, remind me not wander into Love and Dating, here I thought PPR was considered rough and tumble.

reminder: don't go into Love and Dating.

like others have said, i actually do prefer PPR to L&D. while PPR if sull of threads that i may not really understand, or not have anything to say, i still post there way more often.
at 17, i'm assuming i'm a fair bit young for these kinds of things, but still sometimes it's pretty enlightening. not like L&D where i get a bad after-taste and regret going there.