Can you learn to love loneliness?
I am glad you like how I write. I do not agree about my having a big presence to many...if that is so, I must scare a lot of them away with my big presence or something. I feel like an alien in many respects, even here...even in spite of sharing the things everyone else has issues with.
I think people are made uncomfortable by my poems... only a few responded. I think because I used them as a means to explore my emotions, they make most people to uncomfortable to respond. I just do not see as you do. If I had the ability to make friends, I would be out there with friends. Wanting and being able to attain are two different things. I have never in my life had more than a few friends at any one time. And it is not a thing I did well. Those who don't want human interraction are better off as they do not feel a need for friends and therefore do not miss what they haven't got. But thankyou for the nice things you said anyway. I am no good at responding to nice things because I never see them myself about myself.
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It is difficult and takes a paradigm adjustment. I'm not philosophical, but you have to assume a philosopy of altrurist, asking what can I do to make my partner more comfortable and try to ignore self. In a way, you do have to treat it as a philosophy of do no harm. How will I my actions make him feel? How will he react? How can I communicate what I need without being so blunt and possibly offensive. You also need to have something in common with your partner and have the same level of social introversion. Faking a fondness for social small talk could never work - too mentally exhausting and would leave you frazzled and ready for a melt down. My husband has some aspie traits, although he denies it. He's very concrete, not emotional, very logical and as an ISTJ, very steady and predictable. I think the ISTJ is the perfect type for an aspie woman.
My kids are both on the spectrum. I understand them in a way no one else can. They are a joy to me. I feel so fortunate.
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Lonliness definitely ebbs and flows, for me. It's not just "lonliness" -- it's a whole sliding-scale system. Most kinds/levels are tolerable, even though I'm sure that for most NT's they wouldn't be. I've been struggling lately, though with the worst kind -- the kind that makes you want to do something desperate.
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You can learn to love being alone if you get more schizoidal as I have over the years.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizoid_p ... y_disorder
Even schizoids feel lonely , but they preoccupy themselves with fantasy worlds to not feel alone.
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I learned how to love being alone this summer. I'd never had the opportunity before. It was great. I spent most of my childhood alone, and hated it. Early 20s were a mix of destitute lonliness with some socializing. Late 20s-30s were a lot of socializing (I'm "loud"), but it was more frustrating than rewarding. Now I'm inclined towards hermitage. Private time is my favorite now. So yeah, I suppose I have come to learn to love being alone.
For me, I do a lot, and I mean a lot of DIY and craft projects. Being self sustainable and living off the grid, making my own stuff and fixing it, is my #1 special interest. Being alone, I never lack for things to do, and am never held back by social drama. Just the constant satisfaction of doing what I love, and the gratification of being surrounded by finished projects.
So, I learned to love being alone by learning craft skills.
I have a cat though, so I don't know if I'm ever technically "alone." Unless I'm on a long bike ride. I love that too.
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I spend nearly all my time alone and don't recall ever having felt loneliness. Honestly, I have no idea what that emotion is supposed to feel like. I consider myself to have lived a pretty great life as well despite that I have never known true love and probably never will.
I guess I'm just not human. Or human nature is a load of BS. Whichever.
If humans really must be social then how do you explain all those Buddhist monks who went and lived completely isolated lives out in the woods to free their minds and achieve true harmony or whatever. I think they had the right idea with that. If anything I think that's the way mankind was meant to be and rather, society and it's pressures and neuroses are the real illness that has been forced on people's minds and ends up causing this "loneliness" people speak of.
The holidays don't help with feeling alone. The other day I went to the local Christmas parade alone. I noticed all the people with someone or in family groups. Loneliness hit me really hard that night. I started crying and had to leave. Loneliness comes and goes with me. I can feel alone in a crowed room. I do have friends, but I feel funny calling them all the time.
I did get a cat last month so I'm not as lonely. Pyewacket loves to cuddle. I've been playing my guitar a lot and practicing my singing. I finally got a computer from a friend so I think I'm going to start work on a new novel. I brought my paints home so I might start work on illustrating my children's book, and I practice my dancing. Just found out that I'm getting a Hammered Dulcimer so I can learn that as well. The last 2 month's I've been in my own place. I've never lived alone before and it's taking some getting used to. Been watching a lot of tv shows I have on dvd's, but that is getting old.
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I agree, I find being alone or just going on walks alone can be very peaceful and harmonizing, I also believe in the past, there wasn't as much pressure on people to interrelate and socialize with each other, I only think it's in the past few decades that the need for socializing has become greater because of technology.
I abhor large quantities of interraction and real smalltalk, but I always am craving someone who will understand me and be able to share in my special interests and with whom I will be comfortable enough to share some physical affection and warmth. In my mind, the idea of being held sometimes is quite appealing, but I never seem to reach that. The idea of friends who can really understand what I am about and accept all of me has always been appealing, but again, no one ever seems to get close to understanding me. That said, I am very grateful for the few internet friends I have who make sure they stay in contact...that means a lot to me, especially given I can be very selfish at times with making first contact myself. I tend to not like to bother people, or I get to depressed etc. I would not want to be married with children, but someone as a partner, but non live-in would be nice. I have had several internet relationships and even those were ok, but I have a bad habit of becoming obsessive and clingy at times... I do not know if other aspies ever get this issue... It was like it would be if you as a child had your special interest removed... I had the same reaction if the person I had a relationship with online wasn't there when I expected them to be, lol. I have calmed somewhat since then, however.
im lonely most of the time i hate it but my fear of rejection overpowers my hatred at being lonely so i just accept my loneliness, i don't think its possible for MOST people to love being lonely, just to accept it.
i have already accepted that all im allowed in life is unrequited love, im allowed to love but never be loved in return nothing more
i prefer holding, i only prefer being held if im REALLY depressed im a really big fan of cuddling, i have unfortunately only had 3 female friends in ny life who loved cuddling with me even more unfortunately ever since i moved i now have no one to cuddle with and i miss that more than anything about my old town
and i don't get obsessive over people but i do tend to get REALLY clingy i didn't know that until my Best Friend Cheyenne told me that before ending her friendship with me at her boyfriends request which led to my last failed suicide attempt
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I have grown to hate loneliness. I moved to a different city from my family, lived there for years, and didn't make so much as a casual acquaintance. After a while, I moved back and am living with my mother. I feel I have fewer life choices because of this need to be with someone.
I used to be able to enjoy being alone, until I fell in love (sounds silly typing this, but it's true). Even though that was long ago and I'm not still obsessing over it, I still was never able to get back to that. I read a poem which really expressed it to me, it was published in a student newspaper (no, I didn't write it, and I don't know the person who did except her name). Only thing of worth I can recall reading in there
. I still think it's perfect. Having cats has helped immensely, by the way, at the loneliest times of my life. Sometimes going out to try to "meet people" or even just to public places would make it feel much worse. The loneliest place to be lonely can be in a crowd.
Without further ado, here's the poem (by Goldwyn Chapman):
Before I loved.
Before I loved I sought the sound of silence.
Before I felt.
Before I felt I loved the sound of silence.
On empty paths, in solitude, I walked alone.
I walked alone.
There I found my only love, I brought him home.
I brought him home.
While he was there.
While he was there, he filled the sound of silence.
He taught my heart just how to hear the sounds of love.
The sounds of love.
Hand in hand, in solitude, we walked alone.
We walked alone.
With joy and love we filled our world, we two alone.
We two alone.
Now I find when silence comes, I am alone.
I am alone.
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