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29 Aug 2015, 4:27 pm

Peter you got two choices here. You can cut your losses and move on and have a life without these chicks or you can keep on trying to make it work out your way and ruin the life you have.

That's a hard fact to face but this is not going to work out the way You want it to. Whether you meant to or not you have scared them and there is no way you can fix or undo that. Let it go. They won't be giving you another thought if you just leave them alone. If you don't then you will be labeled a crazy stalker for the rest of your life. You already have an ED page and you admitted those things were true. Back up and see how this looks to the people and everybody else. Not good at all. You do not want to be that guy. Be an adult and walk away and accept the consequences and learn from this and never do that kind of thing again to anybody. I know you just want them to understand but they will not. They do not want anything to do with you now and pretty much dislike you now. I'm sure you are not the first client that this has happened with So it really won't be a big deal if you just FOR GODS SAKES LET IT GO AMD NEVER CONTACT THEM OR THEIR AGENCY AGAIN. Sorry to yell at your but I'm trying to get that through your head before you completely ruin your life over this. You are smarter than this. You have a brain, use it!

I want to see you happy and successful and you won't be until you learn to listen to other people sometimes. Like now. Its all up to you. It will have whatever outcome you decide on by your actions.

That's really all there is to it and I really hope You listen to me this time without the "but I want..." b.s. please listen to me because this is your chance to save yourself.


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29 Aug 2015, 4:52 pm

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Well, I sent letters to a lot of the workers from jail, obviously excluding J & S who I cannot contact. I've sent numerous well written emails over the past year as well to the other former workers of mine from before, just complaining about the way I was stitched up and sent to the slammer because of their co-workers (J & S, of course), and yet not one person replies to them which is pretty useless to me. They are probably not allowed to respond or offer comments on their co-workers. But that indicates to me that nobody from there cares.

Now because I'm getting advocacy involved soon, I think the assistant director Cathy feels guilty / responsible for what played out, and wants to reinstate my support so they can't be accused of doing a dirty on me by ignoring my plea for help. Not everyone at the outreach service turned on me, and part of me finds it hard to let go of the company 100% since they were a huge part of my routine, and it's not like I wanted this to happen anyways. However, a lot has changed in a year. I'm not even clued up on who's still working there, as I was disallowed to be in the accommodation since July of last year and I lost my tenancy in March. That could signal the fact I'm still obsessed.

I'm not happy about this 5 plus years anti-harassment order either. Mentally, I still think highly of the ladies because of how we got on prior to the shite happening, but unless that unnecessary 'no contact' policy gets overruled by the court somehow, I'll never get to make amends with J & S. I'm sure they still work there, so the clock is ticking. I've been in jail for a combined 100 plus days, so if I never got redemption, or a chance to hear how they truly feel, I feel like it was all for zilch.

I bumped into my original key worker called Pam. She has MS which is fatal, and I know she's done my family a lot of good deeds. Why let that muck with J & S overshadow all the good times we had?


I've had to do some time myself and I know it's not easy thing for an aspie, but it seems like you still haven't even learned any better.

Are you kidding me, why would you continue to stir the pot after all this sending agency members letters, especially while still in jail? That just seems insane to me.

You even said yourself you are obsessed...I don't know what exactly you are so obsessed with, but it sounds like you are obsessed with these two girls and you probably got them extremely weirded out and uncomfortable. You clearly know you are acting out of conduct so why can't you stop the behavior and leave this agency and these girls alone for good? You'll only be doing yourself and them a favor, unless you wanna end up being bubba's butt-buddy in a long-stay prison for repeat sex offenders.



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29 Aug 2015, 5:03 pm

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So are you guys saying that if I still *NEED* help, to go elsewhere and not air my dirty laundry anymore? Well, I hope you realize that whether I like it or not, any newer means of support people will by law need to know about what happened with this crappy company. That sucks but it's just how they deal with things.

On another note: I really felt I was quite attached to them and did not feel happy about losing my flat. :?


Don't kid yourself, your flat and these girls are no longer part of your life, and both the girls and the company have taking legal action to ensure it remains that way.

You may have felt you were attached to them and you might have been but that was obviously not something these girls felt about you and you need to come to terms with that. Be an adult, use your brain, and LET IT GO! Don't be stupid if these girls wanted anything to do with you they wouldn't have contacted the authorities about you harassing them!

If you continue to pursue this company of these girls anymore you will end back up in prison...and these girls will not feel bad that you are there either, so don't screw yourself like that man...cmon.



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29 Aug 2015, 5:34 pm

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So are you guys saying that if I still *NEED* help, to go elsewhere and not air my dirty laundry anymore? Well, I hope you realize that whether I like it or not, any newer means of support people will by law need to know about what happened with this crappy company. That sucks but it's just how they deal with things.

On another note: I really felt I was quite attached to them and did not feel happy about losing my flat. :?


Don't kid yourself, your flat and these girls are no longer part of your life, and both the girls and the company have taking legal action to ensure it remains that way.

You may have felt you were attached to them and you might have been but that was obviously not something these girls felt about you and you need to come to terms with that. Be an adult, use your brain, and LET IT GO! Don't be stupid if these girls wanted anything to do with you they wouldn't have contacted the authorities about you harassing them!

If you continue to pursue this company of these girls anymore you will end back up in prison...and these girls will not feel bad that you are there either, so don't screw yourself like that man...cmon.


Also, one of them could very well have an old man who gets sick of this s**t and whips his ass for him. Autistic doesn't give you a pass on everything nor should it. I know that if somebody was treating one of my son's old lady like he's done these girls then my boy would have been over at his house to hand him his ass and tell him to leave his woman alone since he so clearly won't listen to the police or courts tell him to.

You could get on the wrong side of somebody you don't want to cross there and end up in a world of hurt worse than jail over this.

If you keep it up you could very well deserve it for harrassing those girls too. Or maybe one of them will do it.


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29 Aug 2015, 6:05 pm

OliveOilMom wrote:
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PeterHoping44 wrote:
So are you guys saying that if I still *NEED* help, to go elsewhere and not air my dirty laundry anymore? Well, I hope you realize that whether I like it or not, any newer means of support people will by law need to know about what happened with this crappy company. That sucks but it's just how they deal with things.

On another note: I really felt I was quite attached to them and did not feel happy about losing my flat. :?


Don't kid yourself, your flat and these girls are no longer part of your life, and both the girls and the company have taking legal action to ensure it remains that way.

You may have felt you were attached to them and you might have been but that was obviously not something these girls felt about you and you need to come to terms with that. Be an adult, use your brain, and LET IT GO! Don't be stupid if these girls wanted anything to do with you they wouldn't have contacted the authorities about you harassing them!

If you continue to pursue this company of these girls anymore you will end back up in prison...and these girls will not feel bad that you are there either, so don't screw yourself like that man...cmon.


Also, one of them could very well have an old man who gets sick of this s**t and whips his ass for him. Autistic doesn't give you a pass on everything nor should it. I know that if somebody was treating one of my son's old lady like he's done these girls then my boy would have been over at his house to hand him his ass and tell him to leave his woman alone since he so clearly won't listen to the police or courts tell him to.

You could get on the wrong side of somebody you don't want to cross there and end up in a world of hurt worse than jail over this.

If you keep it up you could very well deserve it for harrassing those girls too. Or maybe one of them will do it.


Right! Point being, Peter, if you do not leave this where it is and walk away things will not end pretty for you. I suggest you listen to what we all (having a rational input on the matter) have to say about this, nobody will feel sorry for you if you don't and end up in sh!t creek again.

If you find the above difficult then I suggest you just keep to yourself and find a therapist to talk to ASAP. I hope you find something to obsess about rather then someone, please.



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29 Aug 2015, 7:56 pm

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OliveOilMom wrote:
Crazyfool wrote:
PeterHoping44 wrote:
So are you guys saying that if I still *NEED* help, to go elsewhere and not air my dirty laundry anymore? Well, I hope you realize that whether I like it or not, any newer means of support people will by law need to know about what happened with this crappy company. That sucks but it's just how they deal with things.

On another note: I really felt I was quite attached to them and did not feel happy about losing my flat. :?


Don't kid yourself, your flat and these girls are no longer part of your life, and both the girls and the company have taking legal action to ensure it remains that way.

You may have felt you were attached to them and you might have been but that was obviously not something these girls felt about you and you need to come to terms with that. Be an adult, use your brain, and LET IT GO! Don't be stupid if these girls wanted anything to do with you they wouldn't have contacted the authorities about you harassing them!

If you continue to pursue this company of these girls anymore you will end back up in prison...and these girls will not feel bad that you are there either, so don't screw yourself like that man...cmon.


Also, one of them could very well have an old man who gets sick of this s**t and whips his ass for him. Autistic doesn't give you a pass on everything nor should it. I know that if somebody was treating one of my son's old lady like he's done these girls then my boy would have been over at his house to hand him his ass and tell him to leave his woman alone since he so clearly won't listen to the police or courts tell him to.

You could get on the wrong side of somebody you don't want to cross there and end up in a world of hurt worse than jail over this.

If you keep it up you could very well deserve it for harrassing those girls too. Or maybe one of them will do it.


Right! Point being, Peter, if you do not leave this where it is and walk away things will not end pretty for you. I suggest you listen to what we all (having a rational input on the matter) have to say about this, nobody will feel sorry for you if you don't and end up in sh!t creek again.

If you find the above difficult then I suggest you just keep to yourself and find a therapist to talk to ASAP. I hope you find something to obsess about rather then someone, please.


Yeah cause stalking is not ok. It's not ok for a lot of reasons. Yeah it can make some women feel unsafe and scare them and feel like a violation and an invasion. It's rude as hell and pushy and makes people dislike you. Or, on the off chance, you could end up stalking somebody like me. Now I'm far from a badass but when I was stalked before by my ex I showed up at his house with a weapon in his face. He had done some pretty serious stuff to me besides just following or calling me, to provoke that too. Also he used to beat my ass every day until I realized I was bigger than him and beat his and left him. But he wouldn't leave me alone. He just couldn't lose. He had to be the one to walk away. He was NOT the one to walk away. He got his ass handed to him several times and a couple of them by a girl so that was damn humiliating.

So what if you started stalking some chick who was not gonna put up with it and who would put her foot up your ass for it? You would probably have no legal recourse because she was pretty much defending herself against your stalking her, and it would be the most humiliating and embarrassing thing that ever happened to you because I guarantee you she would make sure everybody knew about it and either saw photos, saw a video or heard about it from a witness.

Not a good idea. Not everybody is going to be as nice as these girls have been and you could easily be pushing their last nerve.

And if something happens I WILL say "I told you so" because I did.


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30 Aug 2015, 6:59 am

I still cannot believe two nothing out of the ordinary text messages and a male worker being a grass caused all of this, but whatever. If they truly cared, they'd still be my workers today. :?



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30 Aug 2015, 7:22 am

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I still cannot believe two nothing out of the ordinary text messages and a male worker being a grass caused all of this, but whatever. If they truly cared, they'd still be my workers today. :?



It caused it. They don't care. They don't want to be around you. If you don't get that through your head you will end up in prison. No matter how you think about it, you can't change it. It is what it is. Either accept it and move on, or just go on and finish f*****g everything else all up for yourself. I hate to be so mean even for me, but you WONT LISTEN ANY OTHER WAY.


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30 Aug 2015, 8:30 am

...What kind of prison clothes did you wear ? Were they different in the shorter , IIRC , periods you were jailed before and the longer more recent three-month period ?
I had , basically , the orange outer clothes , with the jail's name on it (Santa Cruz) but the T-shirts underneath were more drab , brown or very light . The outer clothes tended to be quite big (although the size indicators on the outside listed them seem bigger than they really were , about 1 size bigger , I think) , the pants (Trousers , in UK English :wink:?) were pretty big ~ and there was an outer shirt , with a V-neck , with one small pocket that you were supposed to keep your ID card in ~
however , the last time I was there I was only in Medical and I'd only get the ID card briefly , I guess that concept would've kicked in if I'd been tranferred to the General Population (GenPop) as before .
I was in the non-violent wing , those in the more serious charges part had more yellow outer clothes , I think . You said you were in with those with serious pedophile charges ? Or fully convicted ? Did they wear different outfits /? Were they in different wings ?



e="PeterHoping44"]I still cannot believe two nothing out of the ordinary text messages and a male worker being a grass caused all of this, but whatever. If they truly cared, they'd still be my workers today. :?[/quote]



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30 Aug 2015, 11:30 am

Nah. The clothes were fine. And being fully committed meant I was in jail until the trial.



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30 Aug 2015, 4:08 pm

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I still cannot believe two nothing out of the ordinary text messages and a male worker being a grass caused all of this, but whatever. If they truly cared, they'd still be my workers today. :?


if if if if if if... you still want us to believe it was all their fault, and fact is, we don't believe that. Almost no-one here believes that Peter, we are all urging you toward changing your self-destructive thoughts and behaviour, with some skilled help, while there is still time, so that you can some kind of worthwhile future.



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30 Aug 2015, 8:59 pm

I don't want to sound ungrateful or come across that I don't appreciate the help on offer there or elsewhere, but is there anything beneficiary in the long run, in regards to caregivers or similar workers being a part of my life?

They can be nice people and that is OK. I'm not disputing that. But some people who feel bored and/or lonely may find it hard to differentiate between help and friendships, and get too reliant on having them around.

The fact that they never forewarned me first was what made me feel like they were deceptive. Even if it was to spare me from the truth, it would not have been fair to keep that up. And I still reckon they called the cops.

As for what they actually do. They help with bills and shopping, play pool, and go for a walk. Things like that. This place called Number 6 also assists users with housing and employment. I've gotten a profile on Universal Extras. I'm not sure if they could really go to things like that however as I'd be working, and they'd just be there.



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30 Aug 2015, 9:13 pm

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I'm not happy about this 5 plus years anti-harassment order either. Mentally, I still think highly of the ladies because of how we got on prior to the shite happening, but unless that unnecessary 'no contact' policy gets overruled by the court somehow, I'll never get to make amends with J & S. I'm sure they still work there, so the clock is ticking. I've been in jail for a combined 100 plus days, so if I never got redemption, or a chance to hear how they truly feel, I feel like it was all for zilch.


The bolded part is going to get you in a lot of trouble. You seem to be aware that your behaviour is obsessive, yet you do not challenge it. I don't understand this. It is leading you down a path of pain for you and others.

Leave these women alone. They don't want you to be a part of their lives.

Are you able to seek psychiatric help to learn tricks to deal with the obsessive thinking? Not that doctors are a cure all, but they can be helpful.



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30 Aug 2015, 11:23 pm

Please read this carefully:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens ... think.html

Some - not all - of this describes some -not all - of your past behaviour. You do not want to end up as these men did who did not seek the help they needed. You still have that opportunity. It's choice time: you want to be more like them or do you want to enter the process of recovery and reclaim your chance to have a more peaceful and fulfilling future. You are at the crossroads. Choose very carefully which turning you will take. An enormous amount depends on which one you choose.



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31 Aug 2015, 6:15 am

I made an appointment to see a guy in Number 6 regarding finding a new, non supported flat.



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31 Aug 2015, 6:33 am

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Well, I sent letters to a lot of the workers from jail, obviously excluding J & S who I cannot contact. I've sent numerous well written emails over the past year as well to the other former workers of mine from before, just complaining about the way I was stitched up and sent to the slammer because of their co-workers (J & S, of course), and yet not one person replies to them which is pretty useless to me. They are probably not allowed to respond or offer comments on their co-workers. But that indicates to me that nobody from there cares.

Now because I'm getting advocacy involved soon, I think the assistant director Cathy feels guilty / responsible for what played out, and wants to reinstate my support so they can't be accused of doing a dirty on me by ignoring my plea for help. Not everyone at the outreach service turned on me, and part of me finds it hard to let go of the company 100% since they were a huge part of my routine, and it's not like I wanted this to happen anyways. However, a lot has changed in a year. I'm not even clued up on who's still working there, as I was disallowed to be in the accommodation since July of last year and I lost my tenancy in March. That could signal the fact I'm still obsessed.

I'm not happy about this 5 plus years anti-harassment order either. Mentally, I still think highly of the ladies because of how we got on prior to the shite happening, but unless that unnecessary 'no contact' policy gets overruled by the court somehow, I'll never get to make amends with J & S. I'm sure they still work there, so the clock is ticking. I've been in jail for a combined 100 plus days, so if I never got redemption, or a chance to hear how they truly feel, I feel like it was all for zilch.

I bumped into my original key worker called Pam. She has MS which is fatal, and I know she's done my family a lot of good deeds. Why let that muck with J & S overshadow all the good times we had?


Are you allowed to have any contact with this agencey/company if you where disallowed from the accommodation?...I kind of doubt you're supposed to be contacting anyone in this company regardless of your reason.

And quit torturing yourself with the 'I might one day finally make up with these women.' These women probably don't want to see or hear from you ever again, their co-workers certainly probably don't care that much that a disgruntled ex-client is sending them emails or calling them to complain which is exactly how they are going to see it. Pursuing this off chance of maybe making up with these two ladies...is only going to get you in trouble and completely destroy the rest of your life. You're not going to make up with them its just not going to happen I understand regrets are painful and they suck especially when there is nothing you can do to 'fix' it makes it hard to let go of........but for your own good you have to let this go.

Either you were too nasty to those women and regardless of how respectable they may be simply don't want to deal with you again even if you regret it and are sorry, or they're mean jerks who knowingly set you up to get in trouble and purposely triggered you to behave inappropriately with psychological manipulation. Sort of hard to tell exactly which it was from your descriptions of these incidents either way your best bet is to get the idea of interacting with either of them again out of your head.


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