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14 Oct 2015, 12:34 pm

If you just read the post I last wrote here, carefully, you might find the answer to your questions without me having to elaborate over and over why I'm feeling upset.

I think an NT will understand. This is all about irrational feelings. I have talked about it to my NT mum, and she knows exactly why I would feel upset about it.

I already said that it's an open invitation in my original post. But even if I hadn't of known about it (which I didn't until recently), I wouldn't have been asked about it or anything. I mean, if it's an open invitation, then why would she still go around asking acquaintances/work colleagues (not people she would see outside of work nor speak to that much in work) (please take that in!! !) if they are coming or if they could come, but nobody mention it to me? I only knew about it because I have open ears and usually I pick up on things what are going on among people around the workplace.

It's just sometimes nice to be asked. I suppose it's an emotional/principle thing what most Aspies wouldn't understand. Things being mentioned to you by the social event organizer, even just out of politeness/friendliness, can make you feel...unforgotten. I mean, I might have not known it was an open invitation. So even if I really wanted to go, I might have assumed that only certain people are invited, only to discover that it was an open invitation all the time, and that I'd missed out.

It's a bit like greetings cards when it's your birthday. According to most NT females, receiving a card from someone goes a long way. A logical-minded person might think ''oh it's just a card, why are you worrying?'' But a card means something. An invisible social message. It's so hard to explain this type of thing.


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14 Oct 2015, 1:26 pm

Joe90 wrote:
If you just read the post I last wrote here, carefully, you might find the answer to your questions without me having to elaborate over and over why I'm feeling upset.

I think an NT will understand. This is all about irrational feelings. I have talked about it to my NT mum, and she knows exactly why I would feel upset about it.

I already said that it's an open invitation in my original post. But even if I hadn't of known about it (which I didn't until recently), I wouldn't have been asked about it or anything. I mean, if it's an open invitation, then why would she still go around asking acquaintances/work colleagues (not people she would see outside of work nor speak to that much in work) (please take that in!! !) if they are coming or if they could come, but nobody mention it to me? I only knew about it because I have open ears and usually I pick up on things what are going on among people around the workplace.

It's just sometimes nice to be asked. I suppose it's an emotional/principle thing what most Aspies wouldn't understand. Things being mentioned to you by the social event organizer, even just out of politeness/friendliness, can make you feel...unforgotten. I mean, I might have not known it was an open invitation. So even if I really wanted to go, I might have assumed that only certain people are invited, only to discover that it was an open invitation all the time, and that I'd missed out.

It's a bit like greetings cards when it's your birthday. According to most NT females, receiving a card from someone goes a long way. A logical-minded person might think ''oh it's just a card, why are you worrying?'' But a card means something. An invisible social message. It's so hard to explain this type of thing.


If you are a kid (< 18), I can see being upset by the lack of a birthday card. As an adult, not so much simply because grow ups tend not make a big deal out of birthdays and it's incredibly petty to essentially set folks who love you up to fail.

You can either sulk "nobody loves me" if you don't get an unsolicited birthday card from your partner or BFF, or you can just TELL them your birthdays on the 20th and you'd love a card/pressie.

This goes QUADRUPLE if your long term partner/BFF just isn't naturally a fuss over birthdays person and has forgotten your birthday annually for the last five years. Seriously.

There's a cheesy but interesting book called 5 love languages that posits 5 different ways people express love - gifts, actions, words, etc. if your love language is gifts, you feel unloved if your partner doesn't buy you a bday present. If your partner's language is acts of service and she/he shows love by doing all the housework because they know you hate it, they're showing you love and you're not getting it.

Invite yourself to the party or don't. But unsuccessful hint dropping made you miserable in HS, is mKing you miserable now and you continue to feel hard done by.



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14 Oct 2015, 1:40 pm

I think we should just drop this, you just do not get what I am saying, as everything ends up boiling down to age again.

Maybe the greetings card thing is a British thing then. I don't know. People don't fall out with you if you don't get them a birthday card. That's not what I meant.

Oh God this is getting so boring now. OK so I won't worry about the stupid party then.

Just forget it. I'm an Aspie and according to other Aspies here I mustn't let my social status upset me. I'm sorry but there's just so many popular NTs around me who I can't avoid, that I just start comparing myself to them. It would be easier if I was born an NT myself. But no. Couldn't happen. The wrong sperm made it's way into the egg, giving me this stupid f****d up brain.


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15 Oct 2015, 7:44 pm

I think a lot of people understand, Joe. But not everyone. I would feel discouraged being told to get over it, too, especially in The Haven.

I hate people treating me like I am not there. Hate it. But trying to stop it directly doesn't work. I have had some luck if someone else is friendly and includes me. Is there anyone where you are who might do that for you? In conversation even if not to the party?



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16 Oct 2015, 7:15 am

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After dinner, instead of grading papers, she picked up a stack of papers I had been grading and dropped them on the floor. She then slid over next beside me and leaned against me on the sofa. When she asked me if I knew what she was thinking, I said yes. She was clearly tired and was having problems sitting upright ... whereupon she ran into my bedroom and threw herself on my bed. I then told her that if she as that tired, she ought to go home. She immediatley stormed out of my room and out of my home, slamming the door behind her. It wasn't until YEARS LATER that I understood WHY she had been so angry with me.


Sorry to interject here but I had a good laugh reading this one. While this specific case never happened to me I would probably act the same way. Back in my University days, It took almost 10 years before realizing women were hitting on me and a couple might have wanted to sleep with me. I always joked that if a supermodel-like woman were to throw herself naked at me I would have replied "oops, good thing I was there to catch you just before/after you got out of the shower. Might want to put some clothes on though."

I WAS bullied and teased a lot but I am sure there are countless instances where I was completely and utterly oblivious. Even today when my Fiancee puts her *ahem* intimates on I still am not sure if it's for me to enjoy. Part of that had to do with my low self-esteem due to bullying and part of it has to do with being a very literal thinker.