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13 Jan 2016, 8:59 pm

I wish we could met in school. I was a weirdo, too. I was into Neanderthal Man when other kids were into Elton John. I wasn't into linguistics yet--but you could have taught me about it.

I would have liked to have met somebody like you. All I met were people who were into normal stuff, and didn't like people who weren't into normal stuff.



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13 Jan 2016, 9:55 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
I wish we could met in school. I was a weirdo, too. I was into Neanderthal Man when other kids were into Elton John. I wasn't into linguistics yet--but you could have taught me about it.

I would have liked to have met somebody like you. All I met were people who were into normal stuff, and didn't like people who weren't into normal stuff.


That would have been nice. I was bad for awhile in school to fit in, but then was an outcast. I didn't let anyone know I was smart, or what my real interests were. It wasn't cool to be smart, or to like anthropology or science or psychology. So I just tried to do whatever other people did, and to like what they liked. It didn't work, though.



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13 Jan 2016, 10:13 pm

I never even tried.

I knew, if I did try, that I'd lose anyway.

I wanted to feel at least some pleasure while I was losing constantly in life.

I just didn't have that "filter" that told me: "Don't talk about all the capitals of the world with these kids!"



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14 Jan 2016, 12:57 am

First off, thank you everyone for your responses! There's a lot here. I'll try to respond as best I can.

Great answer to the "what else is there" question, looniverse! That pretty much covers it.

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I get very impatient, especially around other people on the spectrum. I don't understand how otherwise intelligent people fail to learn from experience. I also don't understand how someone can be made aware of the differences between NT and HFA communication and fail to incorporate it into their daily life. I view life as a constant experiment. There was a lot of stuff I didn't know how to do, especially socially, as a teenager. I look at my life as trial an error. With each error, I recalibrate. I have tendencies to autistic behavior, but as you say, I constantly fight it.

Maybe I think differently. I wonder sometimes if (high functioning) autism is a diagnosis that might apply more when one is a teenager/young adult, but becomes less relevant as a person ages and has a vaster repertoire of experience to draw on in each situation. I think I will always be uncomfortable with certain things, I'm just a lot more proficient with coping than I used to be.

I have found there is an attitude among some to use the diagnosis as an excuse. I also wonder how many people think that their present state is a permanent state. By that I mean that there will be no change, or evolution. I understand how people want to have a group to identify with, but I was raised to constantly strive for self-improvement and personal development. It's not that I don't like myself, it's just that I think there is ALWAYS room for improvement, no matter what the circumstances.

My general goal of late is to be a more well-rounded, balanced person. In many ways that goal is in direct opposition to the diagnosis. In no way does that discourage me. In fact, it just motivates me even more.

I ask you-- the diagnosis for you is very real. Is it less meaningful, or less encompassing than it was 25 years ago, 15 years ago, 10 years ago...? Do you find the diagnosis defines you less and less?

Maybe that's where I'm at, even though I wasn't diagnosed as a child.


We almost sound like kindred spirits here. :) I feel pretty much the same way about this stuff. Your assessment of how one's relationship with autism changes does match with my experience. But I don't know that it's less "real" or less "encompassing". How it impacts my life has changed a lot. The man I am now handles things very differently from the man I was ten years ago.

In a way, I never allowed the diagnosis to define me. I don't think the idea of doing so ever occurred to me, since I was aware of it before I could even comprehend what it meant. Letting it define me would make no more sense than letting something like the color of my eyes define me. It was always just there and sometimes I thought about it.

As for the other things in that response, I find it's the other way around for me a lot of the time. Communicating with other aspies is often extremely stressful for me. An hour doing it feels like four with "NTs". But it gets easier if I've known the specific person for a while and there's nobody else in the conversation. A conversation with both autistic and non-autistic people is often kind of hell, since I have to try and work both channels at once.

The friend I mentioned is the only exception so far. I'm cool with him.

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I am the Wolfman....and I don't give a rat's butt who cares about that!

Seriously....I am one who believes that people should do the best they can with what they got. With autism, one could have quite a bit, actually.

Asperger's is not a death sentence. It is not cancer. It is not even a Scarlet Letter type of thing. We have difficulties. Everybody (even NT's) have difficulties. We have to try to do the best we can amid the difficulties.


Please understand... I don't feel bad about my ASD. I don't hate it, frustrating as it is. It's just there, and I see it as a source of problems. Dealing with those problems makes me feel... empowered, but it can be daunting.

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Well there is a huge faction of Autistics that actively seek a 'cure' and a huge faction that wants us to accept who we are. Personally, I think a lot of high functioning autistics don't understand that there are autistic people that suffer more with it. A lot more.

But since we're talking personal opinions, I fit half half. In one way I despise it. I hate that I have sensory overloads and that I struggle with mundane things other find perfectly simple. I hate that a conversation is something to 'get through'. I hate that I don't fit in anywhere, as I'm extremely extroverted. But in contrast, I love it. There are perks. I see things others don't. I understand things better. I'm more logical and can't understand the silly rituals neurotypicals always seem to do. My quirks can sometimes feel cool and enhanced. I'm more calculating and quicker.

So while being different is hard for me, and I hate that, I also feel improved in a way. It may sound narcissistic, but seeing things others don't makes me feel strong. So it's half half. But I feel that if I were to try and get rid of my Aspergers, I'd be getting rid of myself. Because it's a part of me. I can't really understand how you can get rid of yours. I mean, it's you. It's not some cancer forming on you, it's literally your entire self. You can't get rid of how you think and feel.


I'm very averse to being part of either of the factions you describe, though.

Now, I could probably try and tell myself some of it's "perks", but it would be like lying to myself. At best I'd go "ok, cool... so what?. I don't see benefits, but I wouldn't want them anyway. A lot of the stuff people describe to me as benefits of it are things that are in my experience not true (I definitely don't agree that I or autistic people are more logical). But I absolutely relate to being extroverted, in some sense of the word.

I don't want to or expect to get rid of my Asperger's. I would if I could, but since I know that I can't I don't try to. I fight it where I both can and feel like I need to. I expect to wrestle with it my entire life. Because to me? It's not me. It's a part of me in a sense, but one that's not reconcilable with my goals and my identity. Those things are important to me. Being autistic absolutely isn't. I wish I could explain it for you better, but I'll need to think about how.

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In my case, I'm still trying to make peace with myself. Not just being on the autism spectrum, but just me as a whole. In a way, I'm still not over the abuse I dealt with as a child. It shattered my identity and has left emotional scars that may not ever heal. I'm still stuck in a mindset that I'm broken, damaged goods, and worth less than the rest of humanity.

I don't understand what you mean about making war with autism. I don't think it's a war really, just a fact of life that makes you different than a lot of other people. Difference isn't bad though, and I think that's what some people need to accept. Unfortunately, that's easier said than done.


Really sorry to hear about your troubles. I wish you the best in finding yourself and the peace you desire. I cannot and will not believe that those feelings about yourself are at all true.

As for me, I call it a "war" because there's this thing that pushes against what I want and need for myself, and the only way to get those things is to fight it. It's a difference, yes. Differences are not necessarily bad. But for me, I've found that this particular one is. So I look for ways to work around or through it, and make few concessions to it.

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For myself, I've always known I was different. I suffered my entire life, struggling to fit in, to be successful, but never quite knowing what was wrong. I endured a lot of abuse from people. I was told I was bad, lazy, a geek, a weirdo, not good enough, not like other people, either directly or indirectly for most of my life.

So my whole life I've felt like a worthless piece of crap. A weirdo. There was no Asperger's when I was little. It didn't exist as a diagnosis until I was 12, and by that time, I was just a bad kid in everyone's eyes.

So I'd been making war my entire life against myself. Once I did all the research, I realized why I am this way. I'm in the process of getting a diagnosis. I want to find out what to do to fix my life so I can be happy.

But now I know why I'm this way, and it's not because I'm a bad person. There's no reason to make war against it. It's my biology, my personality. I can change my behaviors to an extent, but I can't change my personality.

So I'm working to be at peace with who I am, and fighting to get a better life, but I'm not fighting myself. That would be pointless. I am who I am, and yes, there are some positives as well as negatives. I'm not better or worse than NTs. I'm different.

I will adapt to the world because it won't adapt to me, but that doesn't mean I'm going to change myself or that it's even possible.

So I make war against my crappy life, not myself. And make peace with myself (or at least try).


This is a key difference, though. For me, there are things that are so much more a part of myself than autism could ever be. My beliefs, my values... stuff like that. When I struggle with Asperger's it doesn't feel like struggling with myself. It feels like I'm fighting a little demon that lives in my head. Obeying it ultimately leads me to a place where I feel like I'm just waiting to die. It's momentary pleasure (at best) followed by the most horrid feeling. It's kind like how I've heard recovering drug addicts describe the feeling they get when they fall off the wagon and use again. Fighting it makes me feel like I have control, I have power and I am going places.

It's just... not something that really feels like a part of me.

And for both you and kraftie? I had a lot of the same experiences. School was often like that for me, but later on I found my niche. When I got into my late teens I kind of fell out of that... I was not a pleasant person to be around and I was unhappy with myself. It's kind of where I decided to do something about my issues. I've just done a different thing than it seems everyone else on the spectrum has. Looniverse is the closest I've heard to a similar attitude to mine.

Same experiences. Different conclusions drawn from them. Different things that work for each of us.


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14 Jan 2016, 1:43 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
I never even tried.

I knew, if I did try, that I'd lose anyway.

I wanted to feel at least some pleasure while I was losing constantly in life.

I just didn't have that "filter" that told me: "Don't talk about all the capitals of the world with these kids!"


The capitals of the world are awesome though. And the nations of the world. You just needed to say it like this:



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14 Jan 2016, 1:49 am

Imagine if we had this in 1970?



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14 Jan 2016, 1:51 am

AJisHere,

Don't know if you mentioned it in a post here, but have you tried talking to a therapist? It seems like this is something that really bothers you, and makes you feel isolated from NTs and those with an ASD as well. You feel okay with the way you see your autism, but can't find anyone else who feels the same way. I know it's got to be frustrating to not have someone to really relate to (felt that way my whole life).

Maybe a therapist can figure out why you feel that way. Not that there is anything wrong with it, but sometimes I feel comfort knowing exactly why I feel a certain way, or what life experiences led me to those feelngs. That's one of the reasons I became interested in psychology as a teen and started psychoanalyzing myself (and everybody else). Making sense of the world is really important to me, so I thought it may be helpful for you as well.



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14 Jan 2016, 1:53 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
Imagine if we had this in 1970?


You would have been a cool nerd. They exist now. Everyone loves a good educational youtube video, especially when featuring the Animaniacs.



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14 Jan 2016, 2:05 am

Yigeren wrote:


Oh man, I remember that show. So much nostalgia! :D

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AJisHere,

Don't know if you mentioned it in a post here, but have you tried talking to a therapist? It seems like this is something that really bothers you, and makes you feel isolated from NTs and those with an ASD as well. You feel okay with the way you see your autism, but can't find anyone else who feels the same way. I know it's got to be frustrating to not have someone to really relate to (felt that way my whole life).

Maybe a therapist can figure out why you feel that way. Not that there is anything wrong with it, but sometimes I feel comfort knowing exactly why I feel a certain way, or what life experiences led me to those feelngs. That's one of the reasons I became interested in psychology as a teen and started psychoanalyzing myself (and everybody else). Making sense of the world is really important to me, so I thought it may be helpful for you as well.


Yeah, I've worked with a lot of therapists. My current one is kind of good on this but limited in how much he can understand it. Some of that is my fault because he can only use the information I give him. Now, your idea is interesting. I can speculate as to the "why", but I've never really discussed it with anyone or tried to figure it out because it never felt important.

So, thank you. :)

I do feel isolated. It doesn't cut as deep with non-autistic people because then I can usually just go "oh, there's just a disconnect here" and work from there. I only feel bad when I can't find a solution. But with other autistic people, especially others in the high-functioning/Asperger's/ASD area? These are supposed to be "my people" and the fact I feel I'm so far apart from them in terms of how I view and relate to the world is very painful. It's a big part of the reason I usually shy away from others on the spectrum. Occasionally though, I'll try it again and hope I'll get better results.

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kraftiekortie wrote:
Imagine if we had this in 1970?


You would have been a cool nerd. They exist now. Everyone loves a good educational youtube video, especially when featuring the Animaniacs.


Indeed. Where I live, you can't be cool unless you're a nerd. :lol:


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14 Jan 2016, 4:08 am

In my case, I neither pursue or at peace with nor at war with autism. I pursue to master it, not overcome or submit to it.
It's both a blessing and a curse. It's either my ally or my enemy yet all the same an aid and a test.

Regardless, it's what I choose.


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14 Jan 2016, 9:53 am

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In my case, I neither pursue or at peace with nor at war with autism. I pursue to master it, not overcome or submit to it.
It's both a blessing and a curse. It's either my ally or my enemy yet all the same an aid and a test.

Regardless, it's what I choose.


I can certainly appreciate that attitude. It's kinder to autism than I am, but the goal and that certain level of pragmatism inherent in this approach are something I can relate to.


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14 Jan 2016, 10:25 pm

I don't know if it's really relevant, but I feel out of place on this forum. Being "autistic" does not make me instantly connect to the place and its people simply because it's supposed to be a forum for autistic problems. Frankly I feel no different here than on any other forum.

Now that I think about it, this whole "waging war on autism" thing seems kind of vague. What parts of yourself exactly are you trying to fight against? It would make it easier for me to compare to my own feelings if I knew precisely what yours were rather than trying to go off a general idea.



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I don't know if it's really relevant, but I feel out of place on this forum. Being "autistic" does not make me instantly connect to the place and its people simply because it's supposed to be a forum for autistic problems. Frankly I feel no different here than on any other forum.


Same here. If anything, I feel more out of place. I've still promised myself I'll give it a try after years of avoiding places like this like the plague.

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Now that I think about it, this whole "waging war on autism" thing seems kind of vague. What parts of yourself exactly are you trying to fight against? It would make it easier for me to compare to my own feelings if I knew precisely what yours were rather than trying to go off a general idea.


It is vague, because it's not well-defined in my head either... and also because autism is such a pervasive thing within one's mind and body that it can be hard to pin down what's what.

I'd have to give a lot of thought to your question but I can think of a few examples.

First and foremost is my obsessiveness. That pulls me into repeated behaviors from which I derive little or no benefit. So I force myself to go do other things instead, or to try something new. But my mind will continue trying to push them back to the forefront. I haven't developed a good technique for burying these thoughts at times when they're distracting. It's been extremely stressful since I reentered the workforce.

Social interaction is a big one, and I gained a lot of ground on that in my early to mid twenties only to hit a wall in the past few years. I started making small talk with people, I listened patiently to others... I would go for every opportunity to socialize. If someone wanted to talk to me then damn it, we were talking! If a friend asked me to go out somewhere? I was going. My social anxiety is mostly gone now; if anything, I'm a bit clingy towards certain people and they probably wish I would give them some space. Now I'm working on developing deeper connections with people and picking up more nuances while not losing any ground on this. Some of that might require clever workarounds.

It's hard to overstate how important other people are to me, so something that creates a gap between me and them is not something I'm going to think fondly of to say the least.

There's also the fact that it can be very hard to de-stress when you're autistic. Well, I work a job that's stressful for me, on a schedule that's stressful for me, for wages that are stressful on my budget. :lol: So I try and find little shortcuts, little techniques I can do to get the most out of my free time and relax. It's hard to do this without running into the aforementioned obsession. It's very easy for me to stay up until 2 AM when my shift starts at 8 AM. It's unlikely I'm doing something that I'll actually feel good about in that time.

Also, I'm pretty damn lazy when I'm on my own time. If I'm working on something for someone else, I'll work until my body gives out. Point to a mountain and tell me you think it'd look better somewhere else on the skyline and I'm all over that s**t! In my own time, the disorganized, autistic thinking takes hold and it's hard to get anything done at all. I'm trying to impose order wherever possible, no matter how strange it feels.

All of this has been painful and stressful to do. Not doing it feels even worse, though.

In short, I view any difficulty autism presents me as a problem rather than a difference. It could be a difference too, but to me that's academic.

Is this making any sense? Please let me know if it isn't so I can try to explain differently.


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15 Jan 2016, 1:21 am

You feel autism is a negative thing to overcome, instead of a difference that should be accepted. Makes sense to me. I don't agree with it, but it does make sense.

I think I hold a more balanced viewpoint, because I see both positives and negatives to autism. But that doesn't make your opinion less valid. Probably it will be hard for you to find others who feel the same as you do.



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Yigeren wrote:
You feel autism is a negative thing to overcome, instead of a difference that should be accepted. Makes sense to me. I don't agree with it, but it does make sense.

I think I hold a more balanced viewpoint, because I see both positives and negatives to autism. But that doesn't make your opinion less valid. Probably it will be hard for you to find others who feel the same as you do.


I kind of (but not entirely) see it as both, to be perfectly honest... but the former matters far more to me. That's part of the reason I rarely explain that difference to people, let alone ask that it be accepted. Even when I do, it's done in a very subtle manner because I don't consider an up-front and detailed explanation worth anybody's time; including mine. I'll just drop hints and occasionally brief explanations which don't actually mention any form of autism. If that helps? Great. But to be honest, the idea of people knowing what it actually is frightens me; not because of shame or anything like that but because of how it affects perceptions of me. About 95% of the time I'd rather be seen as and treated as an eccentric "NT" than as an Aspie. It suits me better.

I can see hints of positives here and there, but they're so insignificant in my own life and so hard to take advantage of with the negatives that they may as well not exist at all. :roll: Some of them used to help more but haven't in a long time. It's easier for me to just act as though there aren't any, since there is nothing to be gained by acknowledging or caring about them. Simpler that way, and the simplicity makes me feel better; if that makes any sense.

Like you said, different opinions. Some people feel empowered by acknowledging positives. I don't feel anything, most of the time. :| Sometimes when I think about it I feel worse because I see so much wasted potential.

This is also just how I see it for me. For other people, it could easily be different. That took me a while to actually accept. I'm at the point where I can listen to other people praise autism without getting angry, but anyone suggesting I should feel the same makes me furious. Coming here did help with that... the last time I was in an environment where I was regularly exposed to that "there are good things about this!" message I got extremely depressed, as I believe I mentioned in my first post. I've gotten only a little of that feeling, here. I'm concerned it may become more intense in time because as you mentioned... finding someone who feels like I do has been very hard.

It's not so much that it's hard for me to find people who see their autism as a problem in their lives or a negative thing. I've found plenty. It's much harder to find someone like me who has this view without feeling sorry for themselves as a result of it. Looniverse kind of seems to get it, which makes me feel more hopeful about this. :)

Is this... making sense? I feel like I'm rambling a bit.


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15 Jan 2016, 9:50 am

Maybe it has to do more with upbringing than anything. Or else it's a combination of other personality traits that make for a unique mix with autism. I hate to say it because it probably sounds arrogant, but I think sheer raw intelligence (of a certain kind) is a factor in how we deal with it, too.

When I think of my upbringing, I was taught to be patient and to persevere. My dad was drafted in the Viet Nam era. My mom always told me how he kept his head down and served his time until he was let out. I think it implanted a kernel of hope in me that has never died. It also gave me a deep suspicion of authority. I'm not sure if it was upbringing, or just my personality, but I also have a streak of stubbornness and self-reliance. The last thing I want to do is to ask other people for help, or worse, for special treatment. I am not defined by a diagnosis. I am so much more.

When I was 16 I saw Shawshank Redemption at the theater with my best friend. I can sum up my philosophy in the words of Andy Dufresene, "Get busy living, or get busy dying." To me that means life is always going to throw challenges at us. It's always a choice, our choice, how we respond to the challenge. We can lie down and give up. Or we can fight it. We can question the very nature (and validity) of the challenge itself. I think if I ever got diagnosed with a terminal illness I would tell the doctor to bleep off and make a goal of proving the doctor wrong. I don't want to live forever, but I intend to go out on my own terms.

Some people would call that denial. I just consider it an unshakable faith in myself.

I went to Catholic school as a kid, so I was steeped in that tradition (though consider myself unaffiliated). When I was around 21 I developed a theory about the people in the bible that lived for 800+ years. My theory was that everybody has different issues to work through to receive enlightenment/clarity/inner peace. Most of what we have to do is UNlearn the silly or harmful stuff society or our upbringing teaches us. Some people have more impediments than others, say if they had an abusive childhood. But my theory was that at some point, if we were able to live 800 years, we would ALL be able to arrive to that state of clarity. We would know truth and let go of our hangups. For whatever reason, I feel like that process was greatly accelerated in me. As I get older, I begin to wonder what part intelligence has to play in that. For really, the hardest part to me about putting myself in someone else's shoes is that they usually aren't as smart as I am. In fact, never in my life have I felt I met anyone smarter than I am. I have met highly skilled people with a lot of in depth knowledge in specific areas, but I have never felt outclassed in all around intelligence.

So, if I were to apply that theory to high functioning people on the spectrum, I could see that different people overcome the challenges of their diagnosis at different rates. I have had conversations with other people where it became clear we were operating on different levels intellectually. I am by no means trying to belittle anyone, I am just trying to describe what I've observed. It's hard to carry on a conversation when it mostly consists of being polite to someone who may never catch on or catch up. I love people, but I don't have an infinite supply of energy to give them.

So maybe I went off a bit on my own eccentric theories, but that's how I see it.

This would be part of the soundtrack to my life:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b76VWp-voIk

"The Strength - Forces Of The Unseen"

We said, "There's nothing wrong."
We put our strong face on.
And go right through it.
Please say it can't be done.
Cuz that's just fuel for me to just prove this yeah, you'll see.
Cuz that's just fuel for me to just do this, yeah, you'll see.

We have so much energy that you can't see.
We'll blow right through it.
Please say you can't help me.
Cuz that's just fuel for me to just prove this, yeah, you'll see.
Cuz that's just fuel for me to just do this, yeah, you'll see.

I'm gonna make it through, you'll see.
I swear I'll prove you wrong.
You haven't seen the last of me.
I am way too strong.
It's not impossible, you'll see.
You've never been inside my head:
Ten billion burning suns and belief in a strength that can raise the dead.

It's the warmth when you're next to me.
It's the bright white light of a fevered dream.
It's the storm in your eyes.
It's in the roots of the tree:
The underestimated power of the forces of the unseen.